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Is it true that at the end of the day, we all want yes men as subordinates?

Started by Philipkee, Jun 15, 2024, 08:38 PM

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jim889

Quote from: Philipkee on Jun 16, 2024, 12:40 PMBut they will give feedback in a nice way and if you decide not to heed them, they will still say yes.  They will not say things like push this way and I resign or demand a vote

better to have some one who use their brain than someone who just say yes to everything chiu sayed
 :frown:

Philipkee

Quote from: jim889 on Jun 16, 2024, 12:42 PMbetter to have some one who use their brain than someone who just say yes to everything chiu sayed
 :frown:
But if they use their brain and don't cooperate,  :(

If they cooperate, more like yes men liao

Ideally they would have these three qualities
- tell ideas
- cooperate
- be very competent

In reality, they are usually two out of three

Those who tell ideas and cooperate are rarely very competent.  Usually the yes men or just those who just want to go home peacefully end of day and collect paycheck end of month

Those who cooperate and are very competent usually won't tell ideas.  They keep the ideas to themselves for future use.

Those who are very competent and tell ideas are not likely to cooperate with you if they disagree with you.


encourageSome1

Quote from: Philipkee on Jun 15, 2024, 08:38 PMWe may use the words we want team players.  Or people easy to work with.  But at the end of the day, we want yes men.

Caveat - the yes men we desire are also competent lah.  Not idiots.  It's just that more competent ones might be more toxic
end of e day we want competent ppl who can lead can work and can mk thing happen as a team

Smart n wise is good until this human go n be fox n give us stab though we treat them good

If they agreeably disagree n politely not shadow e boss yea then it s ok . If they keep wanting to play punk then yea the boss will rather have one less trouble maker 

encourageSome1

Quote from: Philipkee on Jun 16, 2024, 01:19 PMBut if they use their brain and don't cooperate,  :(

If they cooperate, more like yes men liao

Ideally they would have these three qualities
- tell ideas
- cooperate
- be very competent

In reality, they are usually two out of three

Those who tell ideas and cooperate are rarely very competent.  Usually the yes men or just those who just want to go home peacefully end of day and collect paycheck end of month

Those who cooperate and are very competent usually won't tell ideas.  They keep the ideas to themselves for future use.

Those who are very competent and tell ideas are not likely to cooperate with you if they disagree with you.


If they r all three . Then the boss won't promote them

jim889

Quote from: Philipkee on Jun 16, 2024, 01:19 PMBut if they use their brain and don't cooperate,  :(

If they cooperate, more like yes men liao

Ideally they would have these three qualities
- tell ideas
- cooperate
- be very competent

In reality, they are usually two out of three

Those who tell ideas and cooperate are rarely very competent.  Usually the yes men or just those who just want to go home peacefully end of day and collect paycheck end of month

Those who cooperate and are very competent usually won't tell ideas.  They keep the ideas to themselves for future use.

Those who are very competent and tell ideas are not likely to cooperate with you if they disagree with you.



disagree until agree roh
 :frown:

Philipkee


jim889

Quote from: Philipkee on Jun 16, 2024, 04:25 PMThen either succeed or ban.  :(

aiyah.. this one is velly easy ..

solving problem.. many things have many solution.. and have moar than one answer.. the aim is to solve the problem

way 1 or way 2 or way 3, as long as achieve the aim, using which ever way to reach the solution is hokay.

dun need to agree on which method used.. just need to agree on final output

then things will be easier
 :flash:


however in sg ten yr series only have 1 method of solving and 1 answer.. if dun folow strictly then failed.. so too bad.. need to get rid of this mentality.
 :frown:

encourageSome1

Quote from: jim889 on Jun 16, 2024, 04:43 PMaiyah.. this one is velly easy ..

solving problem.. many things have many solution.. and have moar than one answer.. the aim is to solve the problem

way 1 or way 2 or way 3, as long as achieve the aim, using which ever way to reach the solution is hokay.

dun need to agree on which method used.. just need to agree on final output

then things will be easier
 :flash:


however in sg ten yr series only have 1 method of solving and 1 answer.. if dun folow strictly then failed.. so too bad.. need to get rid of this mentality.
 :frown:

Reality is ppl all want power / influence,recognition n credit.. getting job done doesn't give u good returns unless boss realise they need u

jim889

Quote from: EncourageSome1 on Jun 16, 2024, 05:39 PMReality is ppl all want power / influence,recognition n credit.. getting job done doesn't give u good returns unless boss realise they need u

too bad.. power can do wat.. have marnee have power
 :frown:


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