Was a hot topic in the car forum.
But a few questions i won't answer
- drugs cos that is more for doctors
- things that can point to my identity
Disclaimer - if I share stories, they are generally fake. Fake in the sense that something like this happened but I change a lot of details so you cannot look and say hey I was talking about this case. Confidentially still needed lol
Been in the wards, operating theatre, and emergency side plus went into teaching and management for a while. So ask my things you are curious about.
Does certain hospitals get the lower ranking nurses?
Quote from: Keeptrucking on Mar 15, 2024, 10:57 AMDoes certain hospitals get the lower ranking nurses?
What do you mean? Cos most nurses choose the hospitals they want to work. Either by seeking sponsorship or applying there.
It's not like the MOH will look at a batch of nurses and say ok you go here or there. Unless they seek MOH sponsorship but that is not common cos by and large, people want to choose which hospital they will work for post graduation
Quote from: Philipkee on Mar 15, 2024, 11:01 AMWhat do you mean? Cos most nurses choose the hospitals they want to work. Either by seeking sponsorship or applying there.
It's not like the MOH will look at a batch of nurses and say ok you go here or there. Unless they seek MOH sponsorship but that is not common cos by and large, people want to choose which hospital they will work for post graduation
Oh I see. Cos I feel that certain hospitals like nuh hv generally better nurses.
Quote from: Keeptrucking on Mar 15, 2024, 11:12 AMOh I see. Cos I feel that certain hospitals like nuh hv generally better nurses.
Not true.
But if you are talking about specialty, you will see better pediatric nurses in KKWCH, mental health nurses in imh and such
Quote from: Keeptrucking on Mar 15, 2024, 11:12 AMOh I see. Cos I feel that certain hospitals like nuh hv generally better nurses.
But it used to be, not sure now, that the old AH and KTPH had physically fitter nurses cos they had Ippt as part of appraisal. Too fat and appraisal is affected
How many nurse chiu piak before
Got such thing as a Family Nurse practitioner in sinkieland? if got, how to become one?
eg, in bidenland got 3 year begree program to become an FNP
https://www.uvm.edu/cnhs/nursing/direct_entry_program_nursing
Quote from: nyvrem on Mar 15, 2024, 11:36 AMGot such thing as a Family Nurse practitioner in sinkieland? if got, how to become one?
eg, in bidenland got 3 year begree program to become an FNP
https://www.uvm.edu/cnhs/nursing/direct_entry_program_nursing
Don't think so. Closest I know is advanced practice nurse
https://www.healthprofessionals.gov.sg/snb/advanced-practice-nurse
Quote from: Philipkee on Mar 15, 2024, 11:39 AMDon't think so. Closest I know is advanced practice nurse
https://www.healthprofessionals.gov.sg/snb/advanced-practice-nurse
interesting.
heard burn out rate damn high? ppl go in 2-3 years jitao quit / go elsewhere (non hospital setting), eg pharmaceutical coy etc.
Quote from: nyvrem on Mar 15, 2024, 11:44 AMinteresting.
heard burn out rate damn high? ppl go in 2-3 years jitao quit / go elsewhere (non hospital setting), eg pharmaceutical coy etc.
It's high. Don't know about the damn high. But it's actually a bit more complicated.
Cos you see, diploma in nursing, if you get sponsorship, gives you a 3 year bond. So you graduate and work 3 years. During these three years, you know which hospital you wanna work, what speciality you want (especially if where you wanna work and the specialty you want is not where you are working) or you wanna migrate. So your bond finishes and you quit.
So there is a high attrition rate after 3 years but it's hard to say it's because they are really burned out or they have served their bond and know what they truly want.
Don't forget there are those who got sponsorship for degree, advanced dip which all comes with bonds.
There are some who are really burned out like during Covid but it's really hard to differentiate those who are burnt out from those who have just finished their bond or those who just got a better offer overseas (everyone will say they are burned out).
No wonder ts so active in covid vax back then. Thanks for sharing anyway
TS, are you a medic in ns?
Quote from: peaceheart on Mar 15, 2024, 11:57 AMNo wonder ts so active in covid vax back then. Thanks for sharing anyway
TS, are you a medic in ns?
No
Is it common for scandals between docs and nurses?
And does docs treat nurses with no respect?
Quote from: Keeptrucking on Mar 15, 2024, 02:49 PMIs it common for scandals between docs and nurses?
And does docs treat nurses with no respect?
Scandals I dunno. Many doctors end up marrying nurses but scandals? Not so common or hush hush
As for respect, generally it's not so bad now compared to last time so there is more respect.
One of the career i respect most :flash:
What's your typical day like actually?
Quote from: Philipkee on Mar 15, 2024, 11:01 AMWhat do you mean? Cos most nurses choose the hospitals they want to work. Either by seeking sponsorship or applying there.
It's not like the MOH will look at a batch of nurses and say ok you go here or there. Unless they seek MOH sponsorship but that is not common cos by and large, people want to choose which hospital they will work for post graduation
How does a human or nurse decide before he goes to a course that he likes a certain organisation or a certain hospital over all e rest today ? Which of these r most impt to a new nurse usually ? Remuneration / benefits / type of care they would like to render / workplace culture / patient profile ?
Quote from: Philipkee on Mar 15, 2024, 11:15 AMBut it used to be, not sure now, that the old AH and KTPH had physically fitter nurses cos they had Ippt as part of appraisal. Too fat and appraisal is affected
Wow nurses hv ippt and running timing like napfa test like our school days la ... keeping fit is xiong for nurses too ya .. since it is quite strenuous and stressful at work too
Quote from: Philipkee on Mar 15, 2024, 11:38 AMNone, sadly
Hv h ever met cute nurses ? And why did u not try 8x% effort to try chase them after work hrs ?
Quote from: EncourageSome1 on Mar 15, 2024, 05:09 PMHv h ever met cute nurses ? And why did u not try 8x% effort to try chase them after work hrs ?
I believe Philip kor tried but all the arrows end up shooting at own feet in the end. Tiagong he was a marksman.
Quote from: luckyapple on Mar 15, 2024, 05:48 PMI believe Philip kor tried but all the arrows end up shooting at own feet in the end, according to him. Tiagong he was a marksman.
What's the most challenging case or difficult patient/NOK that you have encountered
Quote from: EncourageSome1 on Mar 15, 2024, 05:08 PMWow nurses hv ippt and running timing like napfa test like our school days la ... keeping fit is xiong for nurses too ya .. since it is quite strenuous and stressful at work too
Only that one hospital
Quote from: Nevereatrice on Mar 15, 2024, 04:54 PMOne of the career i respect most :flash:
What's your typical day like actually?
In the ward, basically routine tasks according the schedules - report taking, medicines, doctor rounds, attending to patient and so on.
In theatre, it really depends on the cases scheduled for the day. So it's structured but not like the ward in the sense that everyday is a different day in the OT but it's different in the ward where it's the same patients most of the time ( I was in C class so a lot of long stayers)
In ED it really depends on the case for the day. Cos with few exceptions, nobody wake up in the morning planning to the ED unlike in theatre, the surgery is already scheduled. So it is a more dynamic environment
Quote from: Philipkee on Mar 15, 2024, 06:03 PMIn the ward, basically routine tasks according the schedules - report taking, medicines, doctor rounds, attending to patient and so on.
In theatre, it really depends on the cases scheduled for the day. So it's structured but not like the ward in the sense that everyday is a different day in the OT but it's different in the ward where it's the same patients most of the time ( I was in C class so a lot of long stayers)
In ED it really depends on the case for the day. Cos with few exceptions, nobody wake up in the morning planning to the ED unlike in theatre, the surgery is already scheduled. So it is a more dynamic environment
Which discipline do u enjoy the most.
Nurse can make how many money max?
Quote from: luckyapple on Mar 15, 2024, 06:05 PMWhich discipline do u enjoy the most.
Emergency nursing cos I can be messy lol
Quote from: EncourageSome1 on Mar 15, 2024, 05:09 PMHv h ever met cute nurses ? And why did u not try 8x% effort to try chase them after work hrs ?
Not easy to date when all are working three rotating shifts
Quote from: default on Mar 15, 2024, 06:08 PMNurse can make how many money max?
In public hospitals? Ok la now they start to increase our pay. But "many money" is unlikely unless you get a niche job in private and usually this will be in OT or ICU
Those is make hw many money? 150k 200k?
Quote from: default on Mar 15, 2024, 06:16 PMThose is make hw many money? 150k 200k?
Most is less than 100k a year annually. Definitely not so high like 150k annually unless in management and even then not necessarily.
For reference I think the senior staff nurse salary is some university degree starting pay - and these senior staff nurses are usually holding degrees as well cos that's the trend now
https://content.mycareersfuture.gov.sg/salary-guide-singapore-2023-nursing-public-healthcare/
As of now, the max any senior staff nurse can earn is $7440 a month even if she or he has a degree with 30 years experience as long as not promoted. I think some tech sectors pay fresh graduates more?
You ever thought about working as a nurse in say, Australia?
Quote from: Philipkee on Mar 15, 2024, 06:13 PMNot easy to date when all are working three rotating shifts
But u got try even 1- 10times with one or diff human or not ? My fren got block leave Eg blocks of week of leave scheduled so they all can go holiday tgt for getaway
Her husband was someone also another health care professional but not a nurse
Quote from: Keeptrucking on Mar 15, 2024, 06:35 PMYou ever thought about working as a nurse in say, Australia?
Used to but now, no
Quote from: EncourageSome1 on Mar 15, 2024, 06:38 PMBut u got try even 1- 10times with one or diff human or not ? My fren got block leave Eg blocks of week of leave scheduled so they all can go holiday tgt for getaway
Her husband was someone also another health care professional but not a nurse
Tried and failed. Sian
Quote from: Philipkee on Mar 15, 2024, 06:41 PMUsed to but now, no
Why not? My friend went as a nurse and said he sld hv gone earlier and tells everyone to go.
But that was initially when he first went over now not sure.
Also, he is gay and an extrovert so quite easy to make friends.
Quote from: Keeptrucking on Mar 15, 2024, 06:45 PMWhy not? My friend went as a nurse and said he sld hv gone earlier and tells everyone to go.
But that was initially when he first went over now not sure.
Also, he is gay and an extrovert so quite easy to make friends.
Maybe cos after Covid don't really feel like travelling much.
And I have a good boss and colleagues now so the push factor is not really there now
Quote from: Philipkee on Mar 15, 2024, 06:20 PMMost is less than 100k a year annually. Definitely not so high like 150k annually unless in management and even then not necessarily.
For reference I think the senior staff nurse salary is some university degree starting pay - and these senior staff nurses are usually holding degrees as well cos that's the trend now
https://content.mycareersfuture.gov.sg/salary-guide-singapore-2023-nursing-public-healthcare/
As of now, the max any senior staff nurse can earn is $7440 a month even if she or he has a degree with 30 years experience as long as not promoted. I think some tech sectors pay fresh graduates more?
cannot compare like that also. generally i feel a lot of inflation bah
senior staff nurse at 7440 that is without bonus yet right? if factor in bonus maybe 8500?
Quote from: default on Mar 15, 2024, 06:57 PMcannot compare like that also. generally i feel a lot of inflation bah
senior staff nurse at 7440 that is without bonus yet right? if factor in bonus maybe 8500?
Maybe about there. The thing about bonus is that it's not guaranteed. It's more or less there for public nurses but for private, it really depends on pnl.
Anyway don't other industries also have bonuses? But I cannot say which quantum is better cos only the very good ones actually make the news
Quote from: default on Mar 15, 2024, 06:57 PMcannot compare like that also. generally i feel a lot of inflation bah
senior staff nurse at 7440 that is without bonus yet right? if factor in bonus maybe 8500?
If u average out the bonus for a senior staff nurse at $7440, the bonus average out to be $2k per mth. But it's quite hard to hit $7.4k for elderly nurses in this era cos their starting pay was so low. So they kena makan by the time they hit retirement age cos kena cut by another 10%.
Quote from: luckyapple on Mar 15, 2024, 09:56 PMIf u average out the bonus for a senior staff nurse at $7440, the bonus average out to be $2k per mth. But it's quite hard to hit $7.4k for elderly nurses in this era cos their starting pay was so low. So they kena makan by the time they hit retirement age cos kena cut by another 10%.
Ani ho tan?
Quote from: Tony.Manero on Mar 15, 2024, 10:04 PMAni ho tan?
Take yeons to hit $7.4k
Average nurse work around 15 years probably can reach $6k basic la, in current economy. The ones losing out are the elderly nurses cos their pay has been stagnant till COVID period, their salary is same as nurses who work just 15 years don't know how they will feel.
Quote from: luckyapple on Mar 15, 2024, 10:09 PMTake yeons to hit $7.4k
Average nurse work around 15 years probably can reach $6k basic la, in current economy. The ones losing out are the elderly nurses cos their pay has been stagnant till COVID period, their salary is same as nurses who work just 15 years don't know how they will feel.
True. But it did get a bump after SARS and H1N1 but the real bump was after Covid
Quote from: luckyapple on Mar 15, 2024, 10:09 PMTake yeons to hit $7.4k
Average nurse work around 15 years probably can reach $6k basic la, in current economy. The ones losing out are the elderly nurses cos their pay has been stagnant till COVID period, their salary is same as nurses who work just 15 years don't know how they will feel.
Ish still goot marnee to build for retirement
Quote from: Tony.Manero on Mar 15, 2024, 10:12 PMIsh still goot marnee to build for retirement
Hard work for deserving $ .. ok la better than jlb get paid for nothing done and only monitoring ? Or just waving and shaking hand
Quote from: EncourageSome1 on Mar 15, 2024, 10:16 PMHard work for deserving $ .. ok la better than jlb get paid for nothing done and only monitoring ? Or just waving and shaking hand
That's true. Nurse is tough jod
Misconception about private ambulance
They don't carry very ill patients.
Not necessarily. SCDF only conveys to the nearest public hospital that can handle the patient. But if patient wants to choose his own public hospital or go private hospital, it will still be a private ambulance so the private ambulance can be handling very sick patients
Misconception on bed situation
It is rare for a hospital to be 100% full. So that is why when you look at hospital BOR (bed occupancy rate), you might see 90% instead of 100%. So you are thinking patients are crowding in the ane so why not release the 10%?
https://www.moh.gov.sg/resources-statistics/healthcare-institution-statistics/beds-occupancy-rate-(bor)
Many reason and I might not be saying all
- inappropriate beds. I might have 10 empty beds in the female ward and 0 in the male ward. I have 10 male patients waiting for bed. So it's full house but at a macro level, there are 10 empty beds. And of cos they might be in wards catering to different specialties
- beds booked for next day surgeries. Sometimes there really are beds available but they are booked for patients who are undergoing surgeries the next day so post op they need those beds so the beds are booked. Sometimes these beds are released to relieve the situation in ane but this means the next day when the patient comes for surgery, the bed management will have to look for a new bed which means the problem will still be there but it's going to settled on the day of surgery instead. Why not postpone the surgery instead? Sometimes they do but there is the problem. You keep postponing a "minor" operation and it might become something major eventually.
This is also why sometimes in ane, the nurse can tell you at 10pm maybe your father will be admitted tonight to the ward (no guarantees but the possibility is given) and you are wondering who is going to be discharged at night to free up the bed. And of cos there is the less spoken possibility that someone might die and free the bed
Quote from: Philipkee on Mar 16, 2024, 05:20 PMMisconception about private ambulance
They don't carry very ill patients.
Not necessarily. SCDF only conveys to the nearest public hospital that can handle the patient. But if patient wants to choose his own public hospital or go private hospital, it will still be a private ambulance so the private ambulance can be handling very sick patients
OOT but big respect to scdf. I was a medic during ns and trained with them. Friendly ppl they even volunteer their arms to be jabbed when the saf trainees ran out of arms to poke
Duno if I had missed it but ts, what's your nursing journey/backgnd/qualification? I have a fren who went overseas for nursing degree only to become an air steward. But he was a nurse for the first few yrs thou
Quote from: peaceheart on Mar 16, 2024, 05:42 PMDuno if I had missed it but ts, what's your nursing journey/backgnd/qualification? I have a fren who went overseas for nursing degree only to become an air steward. But he was a nurse for the first few yrs thou
Joined nursing in 1995 after doing badly for o levels. It helped that my crush was joining nursing but she quit before school started.
Diploma, advanced diploma ( emergency) degree in nursing
Worked in wards, operating theatre and emergency department
Quote from: EncourageSome1 on Mar 15, 2024, 05:05 PMHow does a human or nurse decide before he goes to a course that he likes a certain organisation or a certain hospital over all e rest today ? Which of these r most impt to a new nurse usually ? Remuneration / benefits / type of care they would like to render / workplace culture / patient profile ?
@Philipkee ts nv read my post eh 🫣😅
What attracted u to stay on in this profession?
If you can retrain for x years and be anyth else , what else would u like to be ?
If yr co give u one year block leave what would you do with it ?
Quote from: EncourageSome1 on Mar 16, 2024, 05:58 PM@Philipkee ts nv read my post eh 🫣😅
What attracted u to stay on in this profession?
If you can retrain for x years and be anyth else , what else would u like to be ?
If yr co give u one year block leave what would you do with it ?
Thought I answered lol but anyway
1). The stability, pay and the human factor. I am not a machines person so I like to deal with humans as opposed to documents. That's why emergency nursing appealed to me as opposed to ward and operating theatre
2). Retraining? I am happy where I am but if I could restart my career, I might have migrated earlier. Now the push factor is no longer there
3). Can't say for block leave but 2004, I quit to backpack and rejoined nursing five months later. 2018 I had two months plus of leave to travel (including no pay leave). So if I were give one year block leave I would probably travel. How much and where would depend on whether I was fully paid, half pay or no pay.
Quote from: EncourageSome1 on Mar 15, 2024, 05:05 PMHow does a human or nurse decide before he goes to a course that he likes a certain organisation or a certain hospital over all e rest today ? Which of these r most impt to a new nurse usually ? Remuneration / benefits / type of care they would like to render / workplace culture / patient profile ?
The most important things imho are remuneration and benefits. We don't ask for much but once it's settled, culture and patient profile. So we don't need the highest pay but should be shortchanged.
Patient profile doesn't necessarily mean fierce patients. Some like women as in obstetrics, some like children, some like elderly, some like only surgical patients etc.
Which hospital one works at is not that important within Singapore cos pay is roughly the same, benefits are roughly the same so it's colleagues, culture and location. Culture, unless it's toxic, is just a matter of getting used to it.
Quote from: Philipkee on Mar 16, 2024, 05:45 PMJoined nursing in 1995 after doing badly for o levels. It helped that my crush was joining nursing but she quit before school started.
Diploma, advanced diploma ( emergency) degree in nursing
Worked in wards, operating theatre and emergency department
Wah 29 years of nursing life. Respect u can stay so long.
Quote from: luckyapple on Mar 16, 2024, 07:42 PMWah 29 years of nursing life. Respect u can stay so long.
I joined a few years before the asian financial crisis so nursing was really the dumping ground.
Now, it seems like it was the right choice and I am inching closer to retirement liao
Quote from: Philipkee on Mar 16, 2024, 08:55 PMI joined a few years before the asian financial crisis so nursing was really the dumping ground.
Now, it seems like it was the right choice and I am inching closer to retirement liao
As a fellow ss/bbfa what work / life / dating / financial tips would u give us/ yr younger self if u can turn back time 5-10 years ago ?
Quote from: EncourageSome1 on Mar 16, 2024, 09:35 PMAs a fellow ss/bbfa what work / life / dating / financial tips would u give us/ yr younger self if u can turn back time 5-10 years ago ?
I read somewhere this but I kind of agree. It's just this statement "it's just a job"
It was made by someone to a group of nurses and then there was the usual protests "it's a calling", "we save lives" etc etc
But after the talk, even nurses were convinced, it's just a job. Do not destroy your life and dreams because of nursing.
So if I could tell myself 10 years ago, I would say try harder to find a life partner.
I will tell you a true story. Not the fake story cos it doesn't involve patients but of cos I won't give details. I started looking for a wife in 2020 cos Covid came and there were border restrictions so I had the time and money to go to viet matchmaking agency to look. 2020 turned to 2021. I finally got a match but there was no meeting just video call cos of border restrictions. So i actually asked a friend "
I always said can wait for next year to get a wife. Did I wait one year too long?"
Border restrictions ended but things happened and that match was no longer a match. So I am still looking.
So yes, I would tell my younger self to look for a life partner earlier and not just say "next year" cos one day, your "next year might be one year too late".
Quote from: EncourageSome1 on Mar 16, 2024, 09:35 PMAs a fellow ss/bbfa what work / life / dating / financial tips would u give us/ yr younger self if u can turn back time 5-10 years ago ?
Add. Finance I can't say cos I have been investing for a long time. It's just based on hindsight that I know which shares are up and which are down so not really fair to say any advice (if I could I would have bought game stock and nvdia in 2019).
Quote from: Philipkee on Mar 17, 2024, 06:25 AMI read somewhere this but I kind of agree. It's just this statement "it's just a job"
It was made by someone to a group of nurses and then there was the usual protests "it's a calling", "we save lives" etc etc
But after the talk, even nurses were convinced, it's just a job. Do not destroy your life and dreams because of nursing.
So if I could tell myself 10 years ago, I would say try harder to find a life partner.
I will tell you a true story. Not the fake story cos it doesn't involve patients but of cos I won't give details. I started looking for a wife in 2020 cos Covid came and there were border restrictions so I had the time and money to go to viet matchmaking agency to look. 2020 turned to 2021. I finally got a match but there was no meeting just video call cos of border restrictions. So i actually asked a friend "I always said can wait for next year to get a wife. Did I wait one year too long?"
Border restrictions ended but things happened and that match was no longer a match. So I am still looking.
So yes, I would tell my younger self to look for a life partner earlier and not just say "next year" cos one day, your "next year might be one year too late".
Hey 👋 thanks for sharing a tender hearted piece from yr heart .. thank u for yr candidness🤗 bro hug
yea most of the time in life ... once we pass this village we 'd miss the temple 🛕 / miss e boat ... at least u hv new hindsight to yr romantic dimension in life ... to me nothing is called wasted or done for naught... I m confident one day it might be God can use yr wisdom for u or for someone else you can make an impact on ...
For my case I weren't sure if I try harder got any use or if I tried earlier / younger ... most likely I might re write history but likelihood of outcome in a way I wouldn't wish upon myself and that scares me in a diff way 🫣😨🫢
Do you believe in the paranormal?.l hv you had encounters while working? Or weird things.
Quote from: Keeptrucking on Mar 17, 2024, 12:11 PMDo you believe in the paranormal?.l hv you had encounters while working? Or weird things.
My colleagues experienced things. Me? Not really but two incidents stick out
Cubicle is empty but the call bell is ringing. So sometimes we get a bit scared cos it happens at night and it's very obvious that the cubicle was empty cos it's an isolation room and you can see from outside it's empty. Freaky
Another time there were late comers coming in for report at the report room and the senior staff nurse saw them run in without shutting the door (there was no spring so you need to manually shut the door). She scolded the late comers and said will the last person in the room shut the door? And the door swung shut. The whole shift saw the door shut (no one there) and we all looked at the senior staff nurse who gulped and said the wind is strong.
Handling dying patients, they often say they see relatives on the other side waving to them and sometimes they will be talking to them. I don't believe they are hallucinating as in they really see something and of cos I believe in the afterlife
Quote from: Philipkee on Mar 17, 2024, 12:25 PMMy colleagues experienced things. Me? Not really but two incidents stick out
Cubicle is empty but the call bell is ringing. So sometimes we get a bit scared cos it happens at night and it's very obvious that the cubicle was empty cos it's an isolation room and you can see from outside it's empty. Freaky
Another time there were late comers coming in for report at the report room and the senior staff nurse saw them run in without shutting the door (there was no spring so you need to manually shut the door). She scolded the late comers and said will the last person in the room shut the door? And the door swung shut. The whole shift saw the door shut (no one there) and we all looked at the senior staff nurse who gulped and said the wind is strong.
Handling dying patients, they often say they see relatives on the other side waving to them and sometimes they will be talking to them. I don't believe they are hallucinating as in they really see something and of cos I believe in the afterlife
Interesting. A friend passed away relatively young, in his early 40s. Another friend saw him shouting in hokkien at a corner of the ward something like why are you here. Go away. He passed away a few days later.
I suspect they are the black and white hell ghosts.
My friend who knew the deceased well said he seldom speak hokkien.
Quote from: Keeptrucking on Mar 17, 2024, 12:53 PMInteresting. A friend passed away relatively young, in his early 40s. Another friend saw him shouting in hokkien at a corner of the ward something like why are you here. Go away. He passed away a few days later.
I suspect they are the black and white hell ghosts.
My friend who knew the deceased well said he seldom speak hokkien.
Maybe he did saw that someone but sometimes ppl also get confused
One day my pa also got worked up n confused n talked to me full 20-30 min in Hokkien ... I can uds 80% but weirdest thing was he nv talked to me in Hokkien ever , we r a speak mandarin family as my mom is other dialect
They both only talk in dialect when they out with the uncles or aunts and not to us kids
Quote from: Philipkee on Mar 17, 2024, 12:25 PMMy colleagues experienced things. Me? Not really but two incidents stick out
Cubicle is empty but the call bell is ringing. So sometimes we get a bit scared cos it happens at night and it's very obvious that the cubicle was empty cos it's an isolation room and you can see from outside it's empty. Freaky
Another time there were late comers coming in for report at the report room and the senior staff nurse saw them run in without shutting the door (there was no spring so you need to manually shut the door). She scolded the late comers and said will the last person in the room shut the door? And the door swung shut. The whole shift saw the door shut (no one there) and we all looked at the senior staff nurse who gulped and said the wind is strong.
Handling dying patients, they often say they see relatives on the other side waving to them and sometimes they will be talking to them. I don't believe they are hallucinating as in they really see something and of cos I believe in the afterlife
Was there some instances where the dying patient(s) tell you their deep buried secret abt their regret or sthg they wish they could hv changed ? What was a most unimaginable one ? (Yea u can ficticize whole story )
Besides all sick n everyth hurts n all is sad, gloomy .. all is mybfd before someone dying .. What are ppl's greatest commonality when one is about to die ?
R there any differences u notice between ppl who hv a faith vs those who don't ?
Quote from: EncourageSome1 on Mar 17, 2024, 04:15 PMMaybe he did saw that someone but sometimes ppl also get confused
One day my pa also got worked up n confused n talked to me full 20-30 min in Hokkien ... I can uds 80% but weirdest thing was he nv talked to me in Hokkien ever , we r a speak mandarin family as my mom is other dialect
They both only talk in dialect when they out with the uncles or aunts and not to us kids
Possible that he was under the influence of meds and groggy. But I hv heard such stories many times. Hard for it always to be just meds and confused I feel.
Quote from: EncourageSome1 on Mar 17, 2024, 04:19 PMWas there some instances where the dying patient(s) tell you their deep buried secret abt their regret or sthg they wish they could hv changed ? What was a most unimaginable one ? (Yea u can ficticize whole story )
Besides all sick n everyth hurts n all is sad, gloomy .. all is mybfd before someone dying .. What are ppl's greatest commonality when one is about to die ?
R there any differences u notice between ppl who hv a faith vs those who don't ?
Had a foreign patient who was dying and kept screaming "I wanna go home". He died a few days later. No family in Singapore that we know of so when he passed, it was very sad cos he kept asking to go home but we didn't know where home was cos he mentioned in was China but no contact number. Can't remember how he was found in Singapore and brought to hospital. Was in the wards then.
No real difference in the faiths. But most I have seen would see people from the other side. Whether Buddhist, Christian or Muslim. Never really dealt with Hindu death before so can't comment if they do see people from the other side
It must be very draining mentally to face death and suffering. Was it tough for you initially? How long did it take you to get over it?
Quote from: Keeptrucking on Mar 17, 2024, 08:15 PMIt must be very draining mentally to face death and suffering. Was it tough for you initially? How long did it take you to get over it?
Not really hard to get over death. From student days it was drilled into us not to get emotional over any death cos the next patient still needs us. It does help that I am a guy. Females tend to be more emotional.
But there are two kinds of death.
One is patient comes in and dies. Usually you don't really build a bond with the patient so it's just a job.
The other one is patient comes in well, gets discharged, readmitted, discharged etc each time getting progressive worse. Cos if it's like cancer, he generally returns to the same ward. So a bond can be built and when he passes away, there would be a twinge of sadness but that's it. Have to move on.
But a disclaimer is I have never worked in a pediatric ward beyond student attachment. I heard death is taken very badly there by the nurses but that's only tiagong
Saw many of them in dating apps. Do nurses make good wives? What's your opinion of them?
btw ur nursing line so many girls why u nv date nurses?
hw old r u btw? i assume mid 30s?
Quote from: Nevereatrice on Mar 17, 2024, 10:44 PMSaw many of them in dating apps. Do nurses make good wives? What's your opinion of them?
They make good wives but it might be difficult cos of shift
Quote from: default on Mar 17, 2024, 10:52 PMbtw ur nursing line so many girls why u nv date nurses?
hw old r u btw? i assume mid 30s?
Mid 40s
I did date a few but not suitable and I spent my 20s and 30s backpacking. So I did say cryptically to people that everything comes with a trade off
Quote from: Philipkee on Mar 17, 2024, 11:16 PMThey make good wives but it might be difficult cos of shift
Is ok as long as good wife i can accommodate. Not a problem with that
Quote from: Nevereatrice on Mar 17, 2024, 11:18 PMIs ok as long as good wife i can accommodate. Not a problem with that
There were breakups cos of shift cos weekends and even during festivals they might be working. So think carefully. Plus they might be too tired after shift especially night shift.
It can work out. Just think carefully
Philip, would like to know your thoughts on the covid vax campaign
Quote from: peaceheart on Mar 18, 2024, 09:58 AMPhilip, would like to know your thoughts on the covid vax campaign
I am pro vaccination. Even for the MRNA vaccination. But I am uncomfortable with the VDS cos it sets a bad precedent for the future
I encouraged people to get jabbed then even if it's sinopharm or sinovac and I still believe in it. But the VDS makes me uncomfortable because you are supposed to consent to vaccination and VDS makes it seem that you might be giving the consent under duress.
Quote from: Philipkee on Mar 17, 2024, 08:48 PMNot really hard to get over death. From student days it was drilled into us not to get emotional over any death cos the next patient still needs us. It does help that I am a guy. Females tend to be more emotional.
But there are two kinds of death.
One is patient comes in and dies. Usually you don't really build a bond with the patient so it's just a job.
The other one is patient comes in well, gets discharged, readmitted, discharged etc each time getting progressive worse. Cos if it's like cancer, he generally returns to the same ward. So a bond can be built and when he passes away, there would be a twinge of sadness but that's it. Have to move on.
But a disclaimer is I have never worked in a pediatric ward beyond student attachment. I heard death is taken very badly there by the nurses but that's only tiagong
do the dying patients tell 101 stories abt their glorious / historical life ?
Or abt dreams they caught from endless drifting in and out of zz while at ward ?
Quote from: EncourageSome1 on Mar 18, 2024, 11:54 AMdo the dying patients tell 101 stories abt their glorious / historical life ?
Or abt dreams they caught from endless drifting in and out of zz while at ward ?
You will be that kind loh auntie
Haven die everyday already telling stories on edmw and mmf
Quote from: EncourageSome1 on Mar 18, 2024, 11:54 AMdo the dying patients tell 101 stories abt their glorious / historical life ?
Or abt dreams they caught from endless drifting in and out of zz while at ward ?
No. But once in a while if you have bonded with a patient they will tell to about their life story but these are not dying patients, just bored patients
Quote from: Philipkee on Mar 18, 2024, 11:59 AMNo. But once in a while if you have bonded with a patient they will tell to about their life story but these are not dying patients, just bored patients
Interesting. Same as some raxi driver uncles hahha. Then they will dispense some worldly advice too
Quote from: *hugs* on Mar 18, 2024, 11:58 AMYou will be that kind loh auntie
Haven die everyday already telling stories on edmw and mmf
U all want to listen de mahhhhh
:razz:
Wrong
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I want to share regarding this MyResponder app. For those who are trained in CPR, they are strongly suggested (not compulsory but strongly suggested) to download this app. The reason is that when a cardiac arrest happens, SCDF will activate this app to trained rescuers who can assist in performing CPR before ambulance arrive. While the ambulance should arrive within a few minutes, there is still a delay and if there is a trained rescuer let's say just next door or under the block, they can perform high quality cpr while waiting for the ambulance
What is less known is that there is a button to call 995 there. This means that even
untrained people who know nuts about CPR should download the app.
Why? They can use the app to call 995. And again, why? Why use the app to call 995 when you can just dial 995? Cos from my training, if you use the app to call 995, the GPS location of your phone will be sent to the ops ctr and your location will be pinpointed.
Again, you might ask, what's the benefit? I know where I am. But what if you were on the PCN? On a deserted road where you don't know where you are? Example will be cycling somewhere in Lim Chu Kang or Pulau Ubin.
So there is this benefit and tiagong Sgsecure has the same function just that it goes to 999.
Charges for SCDF ambulance. I keep hearing people say there are charges to for scdf ambulance so I asked MOH for information on this
We refer to your emails between 13 November 2022 and 4 March 2023 to the Ministry of Health.
Thank you for allowing us time to look into your feedback.
We wish to clarify that the patient will only be charged if both SCDF and the hospitals classify the case as non-emergency.
Thank you.
Yours sincerely,
for Quality Service Manager
Ministry of Health, Singapore
I deleted the name of the person who replied to me though I keep the original email with me
Very informative
Thanks Philip!
One interesting anecdotal story I have on casinos.
Many years ago, I attended to a case of fire at the casino. I learned from the paramedics that patient was playing at the casino for 72 hours straight before collapsing into fits.
So I just brushed it off. Impossible. Then I met a friend who was a croupier and said why not? The person just sit there and gamble. Food and drinks are delivered to the person so he doesn't even need to get up. So I say how about peeing? My friend say they either wear diapers or just pee where they sit. After some hard core people get up and leave, the chairs need to be really clean cos there are menses, pee etc etc on the chair.
I remember thinking.... Wow
Was recently warded for couple weeks at SGH, realised that nursing really aren't easy. They got to help bed-ridden patients change diapers regularly, must be able to withstand the smell.
Quote from: Philipkee on May 29, 2024, 04:51 PMOne interesting anecdotal story I have on casinos.
Many years ago, I attended to a case of fire at the casino. I learned from the paramedics that patient was playing at the casino for 72 hours straight before collapsing into fits.
So I just brushed it off. Impossible. Then I met a friend who was a croupier and said why not? The person just sit there and gamble. Food and drinks are delivered to the person so he doesn't even need to get up. So I say how about peeing? My friend say they either wear diapers or just pee where they sit. After some hard core people get up and leave, the chairs need to be really clean cos there are menses, pee etc etc on the chair.
I remember thinking.... Wow
wu ya boh.. ppl reserve their place put handphone /etc then go toilet.
:frown:
philipines, china , india.
which one got more nurse
:frown:
How fast do nurses transfer the deceased for organ procurement (kidneys, liver, heart, cornea) ?Under what circumstances where the deceased organs are not procured?
Quote from: jim889 on May 29, 2024, 06:23 PMphilipines, china , india.
which one got more nurse
:frown:
My time philippines and China got the most. Malaysians not so much. Now maybe different
Quote from: BuiBuiForeverAlone on May 29, 2024, 07:09 PMHow fast do nurses transfer the deceased for organ procurement (kidneys, liver, heart, cornea) ?Under what circumstances where the deceased organs are not procured?
Timing I can't say cos I was mostly in the wards and emergency department and not ICU so maybe a bit of experience in corneal transplant. It's pretty fast, before the last offices are done.
Add on. Floor nurses or nurses in charge of the patient don't do the organ transplantation. This is to prevent conflict of interest. There is a department that will handle that. The department might have nurses inside but they are not involved in the care of the donor patient.
When they are not procured? I only know those who have opted out of HOTA, infectious disease cases and police cases are not procured (coroner case) for the purpose of organ transplantation. If you are mentioning for medical school for something, then I dunno though I know the medical school do get cadavers from somewhere
Quote from: horiv3 on May 29, 2024, 05:41 PMWas recently warded for couple weeks at SGH, realised that nursing really aren't easy. They got to help bed-ridden patients change diapers regularly, must be able to withstand the smell.
Ownself alr think pee n own shit doesn't mean good smell.. other ppl s shit n pee worse
Quote from: jim889 on May 29, 2024, 06:23 PMphilipines, china , india.
which one got more nurse
:frown:
I would say many Philippines n Myanmar nurses in our palliative n community hospital healthcare world
Quote from: Philipkee on Mar 15, 2024, 10:55 AMWas a hot topic in the car forum.
But a few questions i won't answer
- drugs cos that is more for doctors
- things that can point to my identity
Disclaimer - if I share stories, they are generally fake. Fake in the sense that something like this happened but I change a lot of details so you cannot look and say hey I was talking about this case. Confidentially still needed lol
Been in the wards, operating theatre, and emergency side plus went into teaching and management for a while. So ask my things you are curious about.
Bro.
Serious questions
When i kana sedation during
Endoscopy colonscopy
Inside the room, u all got take out handphone take pic or video anot.
Like put kkb in my mouth pose take pic video
Or in talk shit together with me cos I sedated also talking shit to u all.
I got vague memory something like this happened during sedation.
Many many times I went scope
Ps. All these times I went scope, by the time i regain consciousness I am already upright sitting and putting on my shoes liao. And the nurse all tell me I talking shit with them all the way from room to recovery and even when I was getting dressed up despite them telling me not to and wait. Cos I keep saying sibeh hungary want to go Macdonald eat fof recovery and lim coke after the fasting and laosai so long 24hrs. Die also dont want eat their biscuit sandwich hot drink etc.
And yes it did not cross my mind then to ask them, I only began to wonder after I makan finish my throat abit funny, and I have to walk like a duck for a few days then I started wondering, really got anot.
Quote from: bsg on May 29, 2024, 07:52 PMBro.
Serious questions
When i kana sedation during
Endoscopy colonscopy
Inside the room, u all got take out handphone take pic or video anot.
Like put kkb in my mouth pose take pic video
Or in talk shit together with me cos I sedated also talking shit to u all.
I got vague memory something like this happened during sedation.
Many many times I went scope
Ps. All these times I went scope, by the time i regain consciousness I am already upright sitting and putting on my shoes liao. And the nurse all tell me I talking shit with them all the way from room to recovery and even when I was getting dressed up despite them telling me not to and wait. Cos I keep saying sibeh hungary want to go Macdonald eat fof recovery and lim coke after the fasting and laosai so long 24hrs. Die also dont want eat their biscuit sandwich hot drink etc.
And yes it did not cross my mind then to ask them, I only began to wonder after I makan finish my throat abit funny, and I have to walk like a duck for a few days then I started wondering, really got anot.
Serious answer. You got some terms wrong or mixed up.
Endoscopy means nothing actually. In just means they scope into your body cavity. You never say you went for an endoscope. It's meaningless. Equivalent to saying I went for surgery and no other details.
If a tube went into your throat, it's probably gastroscopy or something. Common procedure would be OGD (oesophageal gastro duodenoscopy) to look at the esophagus, stomach and duodenum. So yes, you might feel sore in the throat as well. Your mouth is also forced open then so you don't bite into the scope. And of cos since your throat is forced open, there will be a lot of secretions so there is suctioning.
So yes, you feel discomfort in the throat post procedure but it shouldn't last.
And if it's a colonoscopy, it's a tube forced into your rectum so you might end up walking like a duck for a while also.
You are under sedation during the scope, not under general anaesthesia. So you could be asleep or you could be semi awake. During this time, you might be talking rubbish and hear things that may or may not actually have been said.
As for taking photos, not exactly. But there are photos taken from the camera so that is how the doctor can show you the surgery outcome and progression during the post procedure review.
But kinky stuff? No. Not in Singapore at least.
Quote from: Philipkee on May 29, 2024, 09:09 PMSerious answer. You got some terms wrong or mixed up.
Endoscopy means nothing actually. In just means they scope into your body cavity. You never say you went for an endoscope. It's meaningless. Equivalent to saying I went for surgery and no other details.
If a tube went into your throat, it's probably gastroscopy or something. Common procedure would be OGD (oesophageal gastro duodenoscopy) to look at the esophagus, stomach and duodenum. So yes, you might feel sore in the throat as well. Your mouth is also forced open then so you don't bite into the scope. And of cos since your throat is forced open, there will be a lot of secretions so there is suctioning.
So yes, you feel discomfort in the throat post procedure but it shouldn't last.
And if it's a colonoscopy, it's a tube forced into your rectum so you might end up walking like a duck for a while also.
You are under sedation during the scope, not under general anaesthesia. So you could be asleep or you could be semi awake. During this time, you might be talking rubbish and hear things that may or may not actually have been said.
As for taking photos, not exactly. But there are photos taken from the camera so that is how the doctor can show you the surgery outcome and progression during the post procedure review.
But kinky stuff? No. Not in Singapore at least.
I got do both at same time upstairs downstairs.
Downstairs also at least 7 to 8 times til now.
In the past
I got gastric ulcer, gastric pain, reflex, also bleeding downstairs with dark blood clots. That why so many colonscopy done as compared to
Upstairs.
I know is not ga for scoping cos ga I kana for surgery on my pelvic issue. Wah lan the anananatgoleigist I dunno the actual spelling briefing for GA pre surgery appt sibeh scary one. Make me feel like don't want do the surgery liao.
Video and photo is for the scope.
I got doctor review show during the next visit tell me remove polyp la, got ulceration here there that y bleeding, better watch diet etc.
What I seriously want to know is the nurses got take their own separate photo video anot during and after the session.
Cos i read the news I think recently got 1 case kana take photo video or kana molested something like that..
Quote from: bsg on May 29, 2024, 09:28 PMI got do both at same time upstairs downstairs.
Downstairs also at least 7 to 8 times til now.
In the past
I got gastric ulcer, gastric pain, reflex, also bleeding downstairs with dark blood clots. That why so many colonscopy done as compared to
Upstairs.
I know is not ga for scoping cos ga I kana for surgery on my pelvic issue. Wah lan the anananatgoleigist I dunno the actual spelling briefing for GA pre surgery appt sibeh scary one. Make me feel like don't want do the surgery liao.
Video and photo is for the scope.
I got doctor review show during the next visit tell me remove polyp la, got ulceration here there that y bleeding, better watch diet etc.
What I seriously want to know is the nurses got take their own separate photo video anot during and after the session.
Cos i read the news I think recently got 1 case kana take photo video or kana molested something like that..
They don't take their separate photos or videos. If anyone does it, it's a criminal offence where they can be jailed and struck off the nursing board (if nurses)
Quote from: Philipkee on May 29, 2024, 09:37 PMThey don't take their separate photos or videos. If anyone does it, it's a criminal offence where they can be jailed and struck off the nursing board (if nurses)
Thanks for the clarification.
But then again like in saf and real life do anything u want don't get caught still applies right.
Quote from: bsg on May 29, 2024, 09:51 PMThanks for the clarification.
But then again like in saf and real life do anything u want don't get caught still applies right.
True la but most of us won't bother cos too many cctv around. Too easy to get caught. Doesn't mean no black sheep
Quote from: bsg on May 29, 2024, 09:51 PMThanks for the clarification.
But then again like in saf and real life do anything u want don't get caught still applies right.
When I worked in these scopes rooms. All we focused was on work. Never take photos or videos for personal use. That's just my experience can't speak for all.
Quote from: Philipkee on May 29, 2024, 07:33 PMMy time philippines and China got the most. Malaysians not so much. Now maybe different
wat chiu mean chiur taim.. means chiu nose moar nurse nao ?
:frown:
Quote from: EncourageSome1 on May 29, 2024, 07:39 PMI would say many Philippines n Myanmar nurses in our palliative n community hospital healthcare world
wah moar myanmar nao ah :frown:
Quote from: jim889 on May 30, 2024, 01:44 AMwah moar myanmar nao ah :frown:
When i was warded recently, got quite afew nurses from myanmar.
Got one burmese syt nurse that time on duty at my ward.
Quote from: jim889 on May 30, 2024, 01:43 AMwat chiu mean chiur taim.. means chiu nose moar nurse nao ?
:frown:
I was in the wards and emergency department years ago. Now I am in a specialised area so can't really comment on current ward manpower make up. I do have an idea la but I am not based there Liao. But still in nursing
Hence my phrase "my taim"
Quote from: horiv3 on May 30, 2024, 01:59 AMWhen i was warded recently, got quite afew nurses from myanmar.
Got one burmese syt nurse that time on duty at my ward.
I had a talk with some of them recently and some were rushing to Australia. Cos it's harder for them to get PR after the coup and without PR and eventually citizenship, they worry they may be forced to return to Myanmar where they might get arrested.
I won't say they are Syt la. They are probably young. Most young nurses are syt
Quote from: jim889 on May 29, 2024, 06:23 PMwu ya boh.. ppl reserve their place put handphone /etc then go toilet.
:frown:
My friend told me it's true. But they are the super hard core gamblers. Most of us are not like that but there are some hard core ones
Quote from: Philipkee on Mar 15, 2024, 10:55 AMWas a hot topic in the car forum.
But a few questions i won't answer
- drugs cos that is more for doctors
- things that can point to my identity
Disclaimer - if I share stories, they are generally fake. Fake in the sense that something like this happened but I change a lot of details so you cannot look and say hey I was talking about this case. Confidentially still needed lol
Been in the wards, operating theatre, and emergency side plus went into teaching and management for a while. So ask my things you are curious about.
are doctors generally very busy? i know of this doc in a JB hospital. she seldom chats on her phone.
i suspect that she did not have much opportunity to date when she was in med school and now when she is a doc, i think for about six years already.
is it quite common for most doctors cos of their intense studies and work?
Quote from: Philipkee on May 30, 2024, 07:48 AMMy friend told me it's true. But they are the super hard core gamblers. Most of us are not like that but there are some hard core ones
jin er xin .. better siam
:frown:
Quote from: Philipkee on May 30, 2024, 07:43 AMI was in the wards and emergency department years ago. Now I am in a specialised area so can't really comment on current ward manpower make up. I do have an idea la but I am not based there Liao. But still in nursing
Hence my phrase "my taim"
hokay so be nurse jin ho tan ?
:frown:
Quote from: Philipkee on May 30, 2024, 07:48 AMMy friend told me it's true. But they are the super hard core gamblers. Most of us are not like that but there are some hard core ones
Wow, hardcore gamblers being so dedicated to their "jobs" :frown:
Quote from: Keeptrucking on May 30, 2024, 11:25 AMare doctors generally very busy? i know of this doc in a JB hospital. she seldom chats on her phone.
i suspect that she did not have much opportunity to date when she was in med school and now when she is a doc, i think for about six years already.
is it quite common for most doctors cos of their intense studies and work?
Yes. Medical students and junior doctors are super busy cos of the studies and hours. Once they are at higher level like registrar and above, it's better. Of cos those who go and become GP also have good hours but again, GP are not junior doctors
Quote from: jim889 on May 30, 2024, 11:30 AMhokay so be nurse jin ho tan ?
:frown:
吃不包餓不死
Quote from: jim889 on May 30, 2024, 01:30 PMneed to wash other ppl backside?
:frown:
Yes
Quote from: Philipkee on May 30, 2024, 01:32 PMYes
chiu male nurse will they ask chiu to wash female backside?
:frown:
Quote from: jim889 on May 30, 2024, 01:35 PMchiu male nurse will they ask chiu to wash female backside?
:frown:
No. Reverse is possible cos there are more females than male nurses
Quote from: Philipkee on May 30, 2024, 01:14 PMYes. Medical students and junior doctors are super busy cos of the studies and hours. Once they are at higher level like registrar and above, it's better. Of cos those who go and become GP also have good hours but again, GP are not junior doctors
no wonder i think a lot of female doctors are single and on dating apps. is it true? other than lack of time, i guess also harder for them to find a parter because of their social status?
Quote from: Keeptrucking on May 30, 2024, 04:37 PMno wonder i think a lot of female doctors are single and on dating apps. is it true? other than lack of time, i guess also harder for them to find a parter because of their social status?
This one I dunno. I know some male doctors marry nurses but I haven't met one female doctor marry a male nurse
Quote from: Philipkee on May 30, 2024, 01:14 PMYes. Medical students and junior doctors are super busy cos of the studies and hours. Once they are at higher level like registrar and above, it's better. Of cos those who go and become GP also have good hours but again, GP are not junior doctors
I see thanks. Is a doctor who worked for six years or so in a public hospital considered senior or junior?
Quote from: Keeptrucking on May 30, 2024, 08:01 PMI see thanks. Is a doctor who worked for six years or so in a public hospital considered senior or junior?
In terms of experience, relatively senior. But in terms of rank, it depends how you consider it. Probably only at MO or beginner Registrar level. Not likely to be consultant or specialist level.
An example would be in the army where someone fails ippt. Maybe stick at 2SGT level for years. Is he senior? Of cos . He know how to do the stuff. But rank wise? He's considered quite junior or middle to the WO
Quote from: BuiBuiForeverAlone on Jun 02, 2024, 11:19 AM
There will always be stories. But last time I got friends attached to old Changi hospital and they tell me at night they can feel things floating past them.
This was second half of 1990 before they moved to the new building
Quote from: Philipkee on Jun 02, 2024, 02:45 PMThere will always be stories. But last time I got friends attached to old Changi hospital and they tell me at night they can feel things floating past them.
This was second half of 1990 before they moved to the new building
that one old changi sure have rah...
:frown: :frown: :frown:
I saw this thread on edmw. Anyway, one of the superstitions of nurses is don't eat Bao at work. But my friend told me we all got it wrong.
Cos Bao is supposed to mean pack which means we will pack bodies or do CPR and last offices. So what this means is the Bao doesn't mean bun but pack as in da Bao
So my friend joke that that is why we are always so busy in the department. Cos while we are studiously avoiding eating Bao in the department, we are happily packing food "da Bao" into the department everyday 😂
But yes another superstition is never say at the beginning of a shift that it looks like its gonna be a quiet shift
Quote from: Philipkee on Jun 17, 2024, 07:37 AMI saw this thread on edmw. Anyway, one of the superstitions of nurses is don't eat Bao at work. But my friend told me we all got it wrong.
Cos Bao is supposed to mean pack which means we will pack bodies or do CPR and last offices. So what this means is the Bao doesn't mean bun but pack as in da Bao
So my friend joke that that is why we are always so busy in the department. Cos while we are studiously avoiding eating Bao in the department, we are happily packing food "da Bao" into the department everyday 😂
But yes another superstition is never say at the beginning of a shift that it looks like its gonna be a quiet shift
this one ish not restricted to nursing alone
never ever said anything rike that in any jod coz the mouth is jin suay and chiu will kena 9696 once it is spoken
take care and good luck
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