Actually u got think how is current/next gen going to survive?

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If they not very smart. @daryl76 @nyvrem  u got worry abt this boh. cannot be everyone i know all their kids all scholars and super smart one mah

sure got avg or below avg ones....... now we laugh and say do grab but at least can do grab

Must be v elite to have money compared to the generations before us.

Those maybe like @IAC or @mGx-Alander

 whomever want to marry and have kids, u sure u can be there for them and help/pay for them til their 20s?

At least daryls and mervyns kids all in teens liao.


Even so they will have harder time than us. With AI taking over so many jobs... just in recent times.

See google also retrenching. AI just revealed like last 3 yrs and made so much advancements within last 2 yrs nia, now already so crazy out there.


Even work as stock traders might not be easy since u are playing against emotionless robots that can manipulate markets

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basically those already got rich laopeh and ahgong before us, inherit tonnes of properties and money like that roland tay's children, or those PAP elites all many cars many properties

die until how chee cham also will 逍遥快活

the others, if smart maybe still can survive. the avg ones how?

[nyvrem]

err.. i think my situation abit different since my wife's family got enough marnee to last 3 generations. my kids dont need worry about needing to be 'scholars'. i encourage them to follow their passion rather than focus on studying, which is what my girls are doing. 1 of them entering a pre professional ballet program overseas after O levels cause she wants to try to be a ballerina.

i said this b4, i'll say it now, if u r average and ur partner is average, just be a DINK. dont bring another mouth into this world to suffer. end up both of u suffer, the kid also suffer.

    

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err.. i think my situation abit different since my wife's family got enough marnee to last 3 generations. my kids dont need worry about needing to be 'scholars'. i encourage them to follow their passion rather than focus on studying, which is what my girls are doing. 1 of them entering a pre professional ballet program overseas after O levels cause she wants to try to be a ballerina.

i said this b4, i'll say it now, if u r average and ur partner is average, just be a DINK. dont bring another mouth into this world to suffer. end up both of u suffer, the kid also suffer.

    

Ya thats what i think too. Not say must be dink but must be fully committed and have lots of resources... we are not living in our parents or grandparents time

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If u think abt it, how can a couple survive w/o 200k per yr if they buy 900k or 1m resale at boon keng or tiong bahru?

If pay in full still need 5 yrs. Then usually stretch out to say 20 yrs. U still need to factor in other expenses and if got 1 or 2 kids need a lot of money. From studies extra lessons, play and gadgets etc

I rem last time got mates go oz study medicine need 500k sgd together with costs of living.

If need car and helper even more, holidays even more. Buy additional stuff also need more.

Then save for own retirement. If no inheritance, or earn many money how to survive

200k is like barely cut it.

[Tony.Manero]

Now mostly single child. Inherit parent hdb is the way to survival

[drdoof]

Be kind to your unborn child. 

[nyvrem]

If u think abt it, how can a couple survive w/o 200k per yr if they buy 900k or 1m resale at boon keng or tiong bahru?

If pay in full still need 5 yrs. Then usually stretch out to say 20 yrs. U still need to factor in other expenses and if got 1 or 2 kids need a lot of money. From studies extra lessons, play and gadgets etc

I rem last time got mates go oz study medicine need 500k sgd together with costs of living.

If need car and helper even more, holidays even more. Buy additional stuff also need more.

Then save for own retirement. If no inheritance, or earn many money how to survive

200k is like barely cut it.

i think 200k possible ba

aga aga breakdown of my monthly expenses

income, take home pay
Me - $3600 (im on half time this year so only take home 50% salary)
wife - $7000 (she's working remotely for a US coy, 100k/year USD, after tax etc take home about 7k SGD after currency conversion. no CPF.)
hdb rental - $3000
condo rental - $4500
total = 18000 (which is about 200k/year)

Expenses breakdown per month

Daily expenses for me, wife, 2 kids, and 2 parents (food, utilities, internet) - $2000
car (petrol for 2 cars using phv card for discount) - $600
car (road tax x 2 maintenance x 2) then avg out per month) - $300
car (i always zheng/groom my car) - $500
car ERP top up - $200
weekend outings (avg $200 per week) - $800
mobile line x 4 - $40
parking at work - FOC
season parking at my parents place x 2 cars - $180
other rando stuff (see doctor lah, buy rubbish lah) - $500
kids ballet - $500
total aga aga = about 5k ~ 6k /mth

we normally save around 11k~12k/mth

i dont have any car loans because 1 car is 16 years old and fully paid long ago, other car i bought last year was paid in full also. hdb and condo loans paid off liao, but if have to factor both in for expenses, maybe can put aside 3k/mth cash to pay them + using cpf

i stay with my parents cause they getting on w age. but we have our own place that is vacant / we stay there sometimes. its my in law's landed ppty. my in laws living in Oz now, so we stay there to look after the place. never rent out. hard to rent out also, too much of their rubbish in there to clear.

i dont have a maid cause nobody sees the need for one. even my parents dont want a maid. kids dont have major expenses (tuition). we taught them how to learn themselves since young.

so 200k/year i think its possible to get by in SG with decent amount of savings if u dont count holidays, or keep changing cars, or always buying new stuff. for the last 4 years, we've been managing to put aside slightly more than 100k/year in savings. if u need to go holiday, maid, give kids tuition, etc. that 100k will drop to maybe 70k/year liao.

but everyones different lah. my wife's family was a big help when we first bought our hdb and condo (they paid for our DP). also that time ppty prices chip chip. my hdb 200k+, my condo 600k+ and we started our family early early. bloody taboo in SG. lol. always kenna gossip from extended family during CNY.

   

[jim889]

nose $$ ownself cannot survive
 

[daryl76]

If they not very smart. @daryl76 @nyvrem  u got worry abt this boh. cannot be everyone i know all their kids all scholars and super smart one mah

sure got avg or below avg ones....... now we laugh and say do grab but at least can do grab

Must be v elite to have money compared to the generations before us.

Those maybe like @IAC or @mGx-Alander

 whomever want to marry and have kids, u sure u can be there for them and help/pay for them til their 20s?

At least daryls and mervyns kids all in teens liao.


Even so they will have harder time than us. With AI taking over so many jobs... just in recent times.

See google also retrenching. AI just revealed like last 3 yrs and made so much advancements within last 2 yrs nia, now already so crazy out there.


Even work as stock traders might not be easy since u are playing against emotionless robots that can manipulate markets

seriously we cant be doing too much for them also, not knowing whats gonna happen next time

but one thing for sure, we will let them leave if they ever have the chance... this shit place really cannot stay anymore

their time will be even tougher

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If they not very smart. @daryl76 @nyvrem  u got worry abt this boh. cannot be everyone i know all their kids all scholars and super smart one mah

sure got avg or below avg ones....... now we laugh and say do grab but at least can do grab

Must be v elite to have money compared to the generations before us.

Those maybe like @IAC or @mGx-Alander

 whomever want to marry and have kids, u sure u can be there for them and help/pay for them til their 20s?

At least daryls and mervyns kids all in teens liao.


Even so they will have harder time than us. With AI taking over so many jobs... just in recent times.

See google also retrenching. AI just revealed like last 3 yrs and made so much advancements within last 2 yrs nia, now already so crazy out there.


Even work as stock traders might not be easy since u are playing against emotionless robots that can manipulate markets

I ish dare not have kids unless my finances is solid. But if marry a 20k elite bbfa probably life is settled la hor     

[jim889]

I ish dare not have kids unless my finances is solid. But if marry a 20k elite bbfa probably life is settled la hor     

if chiu let husband/ bf / man piak then got chan one mah..  not chuir choice
 

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if chiu let husband/ bf / man piak then got chan one mah..  not chuir choice
 

That why I'm chao sng bbfa very safe no one wanna cum near me 

[jim889]

That why I'm chao sng bbfa very safe no one wanna cum near me