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Why is Brother Ng CM salary at NTUC a secret?

Started by tokiya, Aug 02, 2024, 05:33 PM

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jim889

Quote from: peaceheart on Aug 02, 2024, 07:39 PMJust playing ard with legal stuff and words loh. Just like temasek... Private coy. OK.

mtuc it is not part of the cheng hoo. there is nothing legal or not.

any one can open up another trade union tomorrow see this : https://sso.agc.gov.sg/Act/TUA1940?ProvIds=P13-#pr9-

Application for registration
9.—(1)  Every application for registration of any association or combination of workmen or employers as a trade union shall be made to the Registrar in the prescribed form and shall be signed by at least 7 members of the trade union, any of whom may be officers thereof.
(2)  Every application shall be made in the prescribed form and shall be accompanied by —
(a)   the prescribed fee;
(b)   a copy of the rules of the trade union; and
(c)   a statement of the prescribed particulars of the members making the application and the officers of the trade union.



as for temasick.. it is is pte ltd.

only problem ish cheng hoo is 100% share holder

huai chiu wanna see how much they earn chiu not their shareholder.


chiu cannot see temesick annual report but chiu can see ministry of finance annual report

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Quote from: jim889 on Aug 02, 2024, 07:34 PMmtuc not under gov. if opposition win govt. ntuc will not be controlled by opposition coz it is independent of cheng hoo

mtuc is incorporated organisation, it has it own charter, rules of incorporation and own by law, own board etc. ish independent. they only need to be responsible to their board of directors.

rook at this way.. who employ chiu.. who will pay chiu celery.
cheng hoo pay ministar celery
mtuc pay their own ppl celery

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i can get ur point here la, means they started to pay him coz they are private

but not transparent was CCS they all paid and if not why now must pay him when he is jobless leh?

if rly independent from govt then ministers should not be chief of NTUC

because it's independent when govt wants it to be, and it's not independent when when govt wants it not to be
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jim889

Quote from: default on Aug 02, 2024, 08:13 PMi can get ur point here la, means they started to pay him coz they are private

but not transparent was CCS they all paid and if not why now must pay him when he is jobless leh?

of coz will be paid. who will work for co if they not paid.

just whether they paid $1 or $1m
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Quote from: jim889 on Aug 02, 2024, 08:14 PMof coz will be paid. who will work for co if they not paid.

just whether they paid $1 or $1m


then it is not truly transparent and independent from govt mah

e.g. last time NTUC pays CCS say 500k per yr. but is this declared anywhere when he was also minister in PMO? ministers are not supposed to hold external portfolios (in the past), now after Tharman they changed this ruling (i think for president, not sure for ministers)

if CCS/LSS was not paid in the past, why is NTUC setting a precedence to pay NCM now?

basically is they nv write the law/rule back then so cannot say people question them
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jim889

Quote from: default on Aug 02, 2024, 08:17 PMthen it is not truly transparent and independent from govt mah


they are 2 differnt organisation but the ppl insai are the same.

just imagine the sme.. the boss son is share holder / director and also workining as coolie and sitting next to chiu.

wat is his idenity? is he board member or is he employee????


mtuc dont need to leeport to chiu if chiu not their member
if chiu member chiu can vote for the board every time AGM cum  or nominate chiurself to be in the board.. but who will vote for chiu?

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jim889

Quote from: default on Aug 02, 2024, 08:17 PMthen it is not truly transparent and independent from govt mah

e.g. last time NTUC pays CCS say 500k per yr. but is this declared anywhere when he was also minister in PMO? ministers are not supposed to hold external portfolios (in the past), now after Tharman they changed this ruling (i think for president, not sure for ministers)

if CCS/LSS was not paid in the past, why is NTUC setting a precedence to pay NCM now?

basically is they nv write the law/rule back then so cannot say people question them

ccs he need to declare coz he is ministar and need to declare all his side income

ncm no need to declar coz is is not ministar


the law never change

and if mtuc paid ccs 500k rast taim .. then  chiu will sexpect ncm to be paid 500k same.

however it dont work this way

just like chiur jod rast time chiu get paid $5k and chiu tuland and quit and the co hire a new person do chiur same job but chiu find out that the co pay the new guy 10k.

nothing has change, the law has not change

is individual nego how much their celery and chiu have no right to noe wat they earn coz they dun own anything to chiu. chiu are not a party to their negotitaiton / private matter.

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Quote from: jim889 on Aug 02, 2024, 08:26 PMccs he need to declare coz he is ministar and need to declare all his side income

ncm no need to declar coz is is not ministar


the law never change

and if mtuc paid ccs 500k rast taim .. then  chiu will sexpect ncm to be paid 500k same.

however it dont work this way

just like chiur jod rast time chiu get paid $5k and chiu tuland and quit and the co hire a new person do chiur same job but chiu find out that the co pay the new guy 10k.

nothing has change, the law has not change

is individual nego how much their celery and chiu have no right to noe wat they earn coz they dun own anything to chiu. chiu are not a party to their negotitaiton / private matter.

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me is NTUC member..... but i cant write in la

jim889

Quote from: default on Aug 02, 2024, 08:38 PMme is NTUC member..... but i cant write in la

chiu can onli exercise chiur vote during agm

write in gotch no use

also depend on wat type of member, some have nose voting ritghts

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