What has PAP done well or badly over the past 5 years?

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I'll be honest I can only think of 2-3 things well

Good:

1. Covid management. People say until we are shit and hate OYK and vaccine mandate but I feel we did well. Probably top 3 or top in the world. It's not just due to OYK's efforts of course. I dont like him but I dont hate him. Just feel he is glory chaser and someone who will sacrifice anything for his own means.

It's collective efforts of the other ministries, healthcare workers. We did well, period.

2. Progressive wages for lower income. Something in the right direction. However not sure how this will turn out in the long run since very newly implemented. Still good for those in cleaning, security industries

3. CPF for grab. That fucking msian company ceo got money buy GCB and this and that, but always say company not making money. We all know it's power accounting. Every yr their shareholders dont make much or any but somehow somebody can change cars, fly here and there and buy new house

yet keep saying making losses......... yet taking a big cut from the actual deliverers and drivers. I heard it's 20%. and 10% from consumers. So out of $10, $3 goes to them. Their infra is already set in place and everything is going well and they are cutting staff yet every fucking year "making losses" or not much money.

Somemore they also invest everywhr and starting in other countries and have the monopoly in Singapore. Yet still making "losses" or not much profits.

If he is so shit at making money maybe he should let someone else run it.

Obviously something is not right. They take money from service providers and from consumers yet always say no money. I think it's magic. Or human stupidity to believe

While saying this is a bad policy (for those grabfood, drivers etc),  It helps them and the society at large in the longer run. At least it's forced savings, dont end up now make 5-6k all spend on entertainment then when they reach >60s tell us they got no money and make it a social problem.

It's a necessary evil policy that has to be enforced. Those smart ones will save up and stash the money somewhr and claim they no money. Those stupid ones will just squander on latest iphone, smoking, vices then when they become old and sick will turn to taxpayers (when they more than 100% likely paid minimal or never paid a single cent) except for maybe GST which everyone else including rich and middle class pays


Neutral

1. Transportation. More MRT lines opened, but prices went up and the recent breakdowns. More of neutral-bad.

2. Education reforms. I have no fuck idea what CCS is doing. It's a case of like 换汤不换药. Remove exams, make those N levels and O'levels take together. Seems like less stress for students, but is it really?

End up still bell curve. They never put in resources to help those newly grads or to really make people continue to upgrade in the right way. Skills future has good intentions but bad implementation until only those stupid courses come up. Im neutral because part of it seems ok or good. And they try to tie in with businesses but I still think it isnt quite enough.

Then the what PSLE banding thing. Im not sure if it works but CCS is like trying to throw everything and see what sticks and works. So neutral about it but dont have a good feeling. For now it's neutral.

Somehow I feel it's like trying to re-invent the wheel but nothing actual is done to promote holistic learning and helping students good in those areas like arts, creativity, or sciences/math or sports or whichever paths they like or choose. Granted, SG is a small market but the education system so-called reforms are like spinning the same shit without changing much.

Personally I think if the guy can be like schooling or at least ben davies level then im ok to let them skip NS or have lighter NS load. You want what goal 2020 (already over) now say dunno what goal 2036 but do nothing to improve things. Or incentivise talents.

Might as well just bring over retired ronaldo and lebron james then can at least be champ in the region. which is more than retarded in my opinion coz we want actual local talents.

Maybe commit them to more strict regimental training and this must be coordinated with MINDEF to approve the training schedules.

So not entirely bad but unknown hence placed it as neutral here. Not just about MOE, but also MINDEF and MCYS (?)


3. More vouchers etc, but really dont see long term help for the chronically ill and old. Neutral bad because I feel it's like trying to plug holes only when they start to leak. Insufficient support for the under-privileged.

4. Special economic zone with JB. Neutral for now but I think given the lousy crop of ministers we have compared to first 2 generations of leaders, we will probably be hoodwinked into signing another suzhou economic zone type of deal. Classify this together with the high speed rail to KL/Msia.

It's neutral for now but really I have no confidence that we will make a win win deal at all.

Barely neutral until we get strong-armed into signing a stupid deal for jobs to go to JHK and JHB. and we are made to pay for the upkeep of the development. Wanted to throw this into bad altogether but for now whole thing's being called to a halt right?

Even the fucking rail or something, the Msian govt is trying to muscle us into paying most or more than 50% of the upkeep/development even tho most of the damn thing is in Msia.

0 confidence in current leaders tbh. Probably will concede everything away. Only person i think can at least fight them is probably Shan. Even though I dislike him, I dont think many others can broker a good or at least neutral deal for SG.


Bad:

1. Cost of Housing. Motherfucking worst piece of shit policies benefiting only foreigners and JHKs. They should force evict those that rent out and force take back the housing. There is a housing glut for Singaporeans for singles, families and also foreign-sinkie couples.

And next, housing for PRs. What the fuck is this? Allow them to buy and profit and actually rent out rooms? PRs should not be allowed to buy HDB. It's public housing. PRs are not Singaporeans.

They should be charged additional if die die allow them to buy.

Should force them to sell when they have no reason to keep it. This should be extended to those long term leechers! The HDB comes down hard and fast on Singaporeans but does not do any shit to PR leechers?

Make sure they cannot sell on open market. Only sell back to HDB at the price they bought since they are not Singaporeans.

You want to sell on open market? Cool. Convert to Singaporeans before you turn 40/45.

Absolute SHIT.

2. Other costs of living. Upped GST twice, giving hawkers and retailers ways to increase profits and prices twice

3. Corruption/internal party affairs. Iswaran and Tan Chuan Jin, enough said

4. COE, cars....... costs went up but so many fucking jiu hu vehicles I see. I swear upon my life there are tonnes of malaysian vehicles in SG now for past like 6 mths. Almost 10% of car population. I swear they are exploiting some loopholes

5. Job market. Policies they implemented and are implementing. What career portal, killsfuture and tonnes of rubbish policies they are coming up. These people have no brains tbh. They implement policies from their ivory towers without asking people who actually work on the ground

6. Hawker costs - Koh Poh Koon talking shit out of his mouth literally. Anyone with a bit of IQ in the range of normal human and got go ask hawkers, will know the difference in rent between first gen and current gen hawkers' cost.

At least they are doing something now but not sure if it would work

but if they dont step in, our bak chor mee is going to cost $5 for small bowl (probably already happened). Esp with that Tai Hwa (both stalls), all charge like $8 or $7 for small.

KPK says rent is not a big thing - are you retarded or just very stupid? or lying? Rent for sure does not account for only 10% unless u interview first 2 gen of hawkers

Really lying through his teeth. Along with that Amy Khor msian bitch who implements stupid shit like the plastic bag thing. Basically is passing costs to consumer.

You implement this policy without thinking and on purpose. The purpose is to fill the coffers and govt-related companies. It's not to save what fucking environment.

You want to save environment, where's your other initiatives or alternatives like focus on recycling stuff, reducing wastage for food and things and repurposing stuff?

It's a half fuck effort, meant to penalise consumers and enrich retailers/govt-linked enterprises like NTUC (and some say SS)... helping them boost profits by selling plastic bags... deferring this costs to Singaporeans

Tray return I think it's a fair policy. It's supposed to make things cleaner. I think yes indeed some parts are cleaner but the tray return stations are dirty as fuck and they are hiring less cleaners.

It's another save money gesture for their own govt-related companies and those awarded cleaning contracts (grass root leaders etc)


7. Empowering and consolidating powers to enforcement agencies. Good and bad but mostly bad. A certain minister is purposely giving them more powers and consolidating powers to himself.

This is double edged. Empowering them to catch mosquitoes, vapers etc. Sure. But they cannot do things to errant neighbours? What in the blue hell is this?

Basically pass through laws legislatively to benefit themselves but turning a blind eye to many issues. Such as got 1 case, got a crazy/autistic stalker kept on disturbing a guy he was interested in then end up the guy made dunno 29 or 49 reports yet police never act on it

End up the victim killed the stalker and sentenced to 4 yrs jail. Well done PAP and govt and minister-in-charge

8. No accountability. Ridout is as we know. Out in the open and clear as day and night the facts

9. Abuse of powers. I think can deduce from here and there incl how they are attacking PS and letting RK get off scot free.

10. Wasting money on Youth olympics (more than 5 yrs ago) and now this what, Founders Memorial when the founders themselves dont want this. and the Oxley saga. We already got enough saga. and already enough profligate spending and wasting of resources to do what research and whatever shit to see if Oxley needs to be a memorialized.

LHL said wont up GST but upped it anyway. For what good social costs? Helping the needy? Helping improve social cohesiveness?

To build this white elephant Founders' Memorial? I think it can be incorporated somewhere in the National Heritage board. 50m I think it's ok. 100m is stretching it a lot.

300m is total wasteful spending. Probably only will make it part of national education for brainwashing.

Might as well make a big altar + donation box then for people to offer incense and prayers and wishing well there to make money.

If we are on this topic why not put a roller coaster ride and "integrated resort" called Founders' Integrated Resort?

Ya maybe will call me desecrating, insulting them then do something to me also. Want to implement Lese Majeste as well? This is wasting money which LKY and team would not have agreed.


11. Insufficient help for lower and middle income and no incentives to help those with kids. If u really want people to have kids, giving 5k 10k is not much use. Give them housing priority and help those with foreigner wives/husbands.

Help those with kids, but at the same time need to look at racial numbers. For those that are able to have kids, incentivise them more. Not those already living in rental flat go pop out 6-7 kids like the Chin Swee road murder case of the young malay girl.

12. Stupid DEI woke policies. Probably they wanted to do more for this shit but stopped since Trump came. What more female ministers and and more gender stuff.

Hello, stupid is ok dont go and flaunt it. People retarded in US u also must follow? Ok LHL got say doesnt rly believe but they probably following the trend.

13. Need to have some sort of skill points in order to allow the right talents in. Not this fuck shit policies that allow JHK/JHB to take advantage of us

14. Tax foreigners esp JHK/JHB more. This is the right time to tax them, since they have been exploiting our loopholes for the longest time

Sure if we really want something, we can definitely cut the costs a lot. Esp during this bad economy. Not 300 fucking million on something which the founders also dont want u to do so!

15. Career development planning/roadmap. This one not much diff from skills future. I dont understand why the stupid scholars and ministers want to do this. This is retarded as fuck tbh.

Basically you want to insert whole SG population into this. How does this benefit those already not doing well in careers? It's like if u have a gap due to family issues or personal issues, employers are going to have access to these (even though it needs your permission).

If you are an employer, will u request for this? Yes. Then it shows the job-seeker's job history. If the job applicant says no, you will probably chuck his resume into the bin.

It makes those already well on track in their careers even higher and those who are trying to play catch up, to be in a more vulnerable position. Stupidly retarded initiative. Yet they die die want to implement as some scholar's idea.

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I think right, if u all can add the good or neutral points i also ok to be convinced

but in the past 5 yrs i think the decisions made are fucking shitty to say the least

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Please help post this on the other side

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Hmm...
1. Resale public housing prices pegged to the open market. PRs allowed to buy  resale hdb flats and rent out to foreigners. And CPF should not be allowed to fund housing. Defeats the original purpose of CPF which is meant for retirement.

2. Overpopulation straining limited public infrastructure whilst govt take own sweet time to build new infrastructure to cater to a higher population. Ex. Hospitals and bto flats.

3. Jobs gatekeeping - Skillsfuture/detailed background check for singapore citizens whilst foreigners can easily be hired without thorough background check and proficiency tests. Sg citizen to foreigner hiring quota + DEI is also disadvantageous to SG citizen workers.

4. Profilgate spending on public infrastructure such as founders memorial & sportshub, contributing to gst hikes.

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Hmm...
1. Resale public housing prices pegged to the open market. PRs allowed to buy  resale hdb flats and rent out to foreigners. And CPF should not be allowed to fund housing. Defeats the original purpose of CPF which is meant for retirement.

2. Overpopulation straining limited public infrastructure whilst govt take own sweet time to build new infrastructure to cater to a higher population. Ex. Hospitals and bto flats.

3. Jobs gatekeeping - Skillsfuture/detailed background check for singapore citizens whilst foreigners can easily be hired without thorough background check and proficiency tests. Sg citizen to foreigner hiring quota + DEI is also disadvantageous to SG citizen workers.

4. Profilgate spending on public infrastructure such as founders memorial & sportshub, contributing to gst hikes.

your #1 is good or bad?

HDB should not be sold to PRs. They should take it back NOW.

if they wish to continue to sell to them, then it should NEVER be allowed for them to sell it on open market or rent it out.

It should be a place for them to stay.

Say sell them at 350k for 3 room now. Fine. Next time they can only sell back at $350k or lower. PRs are not citizens.

JHKs just 1 of them become SGP, the other will remain PR to suck benefits gao gao and then their kids will leave for OZ, UK, US

I've seen tonnes of cases.

The CPF to fund housing thing i think it's hard to review. Main issue is some people have minimal savings esp those young couples.

Indeed if implement what you say, prices will come down, but will have other effects also.

Possible to implement this but tweaked in another form.

Main reason is PAP purposely selling HDBs way higher then market it as heavily subsidised. All they have to do is put in some policies right? It's up to whether they want to do it or not.

Their motive is to keep Sinkies slogging, especially this current gen.

Can afford to live but never retire.

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Fully agree with your point 2. You keep importing but dont build the necessary infra like BTO and roads and flats and MRTs

then no redundancy like taking bus services off

then expect things to still work.

Did they have any contingency plan like in case of terrorist attack? Crippling our MRT can cripple entire SG and economy liao.

At least if you have buses or dual tracks or some other way to improve efficiency, can ensure things still operate as normal

The damn North-South and East West Line are due for renewal esp with so many breakdowns.

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The only people profiting from these are JHKs and JHBs

totally honest.

not even ah tiongs, pinoys, or indians (these also greatly profited, esp when they nv check their education properly)

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your #1 is good or bad?

HDB should not be sold to PRs. They should take it back NOW.

if they wish to continue to sell to them, then it should NEVER be allowed for them to sell it on open market or rent it out.

It should be a place for them to stay.

Say sell them at 350k for 3 room now. Fine. Next time they can only sell back at $350k or lower. PRs are not citizens.

JHKs just 1 of them become SGP, the other will remain PR to suck benefits gao gao and then their kids will leave for OZ, UK, US

I've seen tonnes of cases.

The CPF to fund housing thing i think it's hard to review. Main issue is some people have minimal savings esp those young couples.

Indeed if implement what you say, prices will come down, but will have other effects also.

Possible to implement this but tweaked in another form.

Main reason is PAP purposely selling HDBs way higher then market it as heavily subsidised. All they have to do is put in some policies right? It's up to whether they want to do it or not.

Their motive is to keep Sinkies slogging, especially this current gen.

Can afford to live but never retire.

What do you think? Of course bad lah. I find it very difficult to praise the pap for what their policies have done to me. Felt like an outcast of this society when their policies hardly benefit me as a citizen at all. Especially the housing, which is a NEED. The pap's policies made it seemed like as though sg citizens WANT a shelter over their head. The usual BS reason is that singles can live with their parents. So to get another flat as a single is not needed.

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the housing policy is the #1 reason i will not be voting for them

they screwed up fucking badly on this.

Singles cant get flats coz 2 rooms too many snatching. Sinkie couples cant get flats until 5-6 yrs later.

Sinkie-foreigner cant be eligible for BTO. You do all these shit and say why is TFR down? Mr fuckhead you got shit for brains is it? It doesnt take Einstein 160 IQ to know why TFR is down, this is the number one reason, next is other costs of living.

They know, yet they are not tackling this. Give u a few vouchers, subsidize a small bit for childcare but not other aspects and not helping to nurture the young. How can u afford to have kids if u are old already and also no other forms of help?

Then the singles not married, u got use programmes to help them match?

Yet PR can get flats and monetize it. and the price of whether BTO or resales is crazy. If a HDB is meant for staying then they should quell and push down prices further and stop PRs from buying or making sure those old PRs return the monies and clamp down on illegal renting. and NOT ALLOW THEM TO RENT AT ALL.

local elderly want to rent out, is because they are locals (sinkies). where got such fucking shit as us subsidizing Malaysians' retirement?

fuck PAP govt.

The number 2 reason is rise of costs of living not in tandem with income

Number 3 reason is anyhow bring in foreigners -without checking for credentials much, without looking for real TALENTS, job creators.

Number 4 reason is abuse of powers, double standards for PAP vs oppo and no accountability

Number 5 is profligate spending (Founders Memorial and YOG etc)


the so-called increase in salary for ministers or civil servants that one im neutral and a bit against, but they never tackle those above more impt for me.

They screwed up the costs part thats why have to increase for CS and ministers. Basically in private, many are underpaid. So they make sure the CS is at least market rate (but they still screwed up until even CS hardly afford) so that private has to follow since govt is biggest employer through CS, PS and GLCs

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Many JHK PRs leeching here, buy flats to leech until they are old

Why 2 PRs can get married and buy public housing here when not enough for Singaporeans?

Fine u want to let them buy, cannot allow them to rent out.

If they want to rent out and sell at market rate, both convert to Singaporeans.

This is a damn loophole that needs to be plugged ASAP.

Those that remain PR, can only sell back to HDB. not open market. When they sell for millions then retire back in Msia. or kay siao come back renew PR but retire there and collect rent

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maybe u all will say me and my jhb last time. if ok we got married then yes i believe we should be entitled to it since im locally born.

then im living in old parents flat now mah

so if let's say we want to buy a new flat, then new policies should kick in. Since im a locally born singaporean, then ya should be entitled to the same as others.

BUT, im also ok, if we are subject to less subsidies and other rules. At least I was born here. If a Sinkie marry a PR, or foreigner then ya maybe less subsidies.

Only allow more subsidies/reimbursements after the foreigner becomes Singaporean. In the event that a kid was born.

I think this would help a lot, including the TFR isnt it?

Why they allow 2 PRs to buy and profit from our housing market?

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the housing policy is the #1 reason i will not be voting for them

they screwed up fucking badly on this.

Singles cant get flats coz 2 rooms too many snatching. Sinkie couples cant get flats until 5-6 yrs later.

Sinkie-foreigner cant be eligible for BTO. You do all these shit and say why is TFR down? Mr fuckhead you got shit for brains is it? It doesnt take Einstein 160 IQ to know why TFR is down, this is the number one reason, next is other costs of living.

They know, yet they are not tackling this. Give u a few vouchers, subsidize a small bit for childcare but not other aspects and not helping to nurture the young. How can u afford to have kids if u are old already and also no other forms of help?

Then the singles not married, u got use programmes to help them match?

Yet PR can get flats and monetize it. and the price of whether BTO or resales is crazy. If a HDB is meant for staying then they should quell and push down prices further and stop PRs from buying or making sure those old PRs return the monies and clamp down on illegal renting. and NOT ALLOW THEM TO RENT AT ALL.

local elderly want to rent out, is because they are locals (sinkies). where got such fucking shit as us subsidizing Malaysians' retirement?

fuck PAP govt.

The number 2 reason is rise of costs of living not in tandem with income

Number 3 reason is anyhow bring in foreigners -without checking for credentials much, without looking for real TALENTS, job creators.

Number 4 reason is abuse of powers, double standards for PAP vs oppo and no accountability

Number 5 is profligate spending (Founders Memorial and YOG etc)


the so-called increase in salary for ministers or civil servants that one im neutral and a bit against, but they never tackle those above more impt for me.

They screwed up the costs part thats why have to increase for CS and ministers. Basically in private, many are underpaid. So they make sure the CS is at least market rate (but they still screwed up until even CS hardly afford) so that private has to follow since govt is biggest employer through CS, PS and GLCs

Govt don't want the low ses/middle ses sg citizen-foreigner married couple to retire overseas. Need more wage slaves for the govt to milk dry.

Sg citizens subsidising malaysians retirement is really another level of pap's policymaking. Think most Sinkies also don't care. Sinkies only see 1:3.5 they already happy like a lark.

Pap is addicted to readily available labor from other countries. They don't care if the tfr goes down to 0. Heck, it doesn't matter even when sg education system goes to shiat. Pap can save many years and effort as compared to having to groom sg citizens.

CS HR also lowball file and rank workers. Only high ranking CS gets the biggest payraise.

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One more thing. Pap policies make it difficult for money outflow esp from sg citizens, when it was used for investment and crypto to make more money. The usual BS reasons they gave was to curb money laundering and scams. How ironic it is when some citizens got scammed left right center without proper checks in the first place. And needless to say about the money laundering. We all know what happened with scam syndicate members using scammed monies to buy up luxury goods and properties in sg. (Fujian gang)
..and of course, ftx and hodlnaut closed shop (mas approved in-principle crypto exchanges)

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Govt don't want the low ses/middle ses sg citizen-foreigner married couple to retire overseas. Need more wage slaves for the govt to milk dry.

Sg citizens subsidising malaysians retirement is really another level of pap's policymaking. Think most Sinkies also don't care. Sinkies only see 1:3.5 they already happy like a lark.

Pap is addicted to readily available labor from other countries. They don't care if the tfr goes down to 0. Heck, it doesn't matter even when sg education system goes to shiat. Pap can save many years and effort as compared to having to groom sg citizens.

CS HR also lowball file and rank workers. Only high ranking CS gets the biggest payraise.

Jhk get 3.5 salary really can retire in msia and continue to milk even more with their sg hdb.

While sinkies CANNOT get msia PR or citizenship easily. Same goes for thai or oz citizenship. If msia scums dont let us get PRs or citizenships easily and always say shit abt us and bully us, why give them benefits to leech on us and sinkie taxpayers when its not reciprocal?

Jhk only treat us as idiots, springboards or money making machines. Not so called friends or neighbours and none of them have intention to stay long.

At least some others incl tiongs or indians or pinoys or viets really want to stay here.

Jhk is max leechers only. They dont even see us as second home. Frankly we need to protest this

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One more thing. Pap policies make it difficult for money outflow esp from sg citizens, when it was used for investment and crypto to make more money. The usual BS reasons they gave was to curb money laundering and scams. How ironic it is when some citizens got scammed left right center without proper checks in the first place. And needless to say about the money laundering. We all know what happened with scam syndicate members using scammed monies to buy up luxury goods and properties in sg. (Fujian gang)
..and of course, ftx and hodlnaut closed shop (mas approved in-principle crypto exchanges)

Yes they locks sinkies down here yet cont to let foreigners ESP jhks to leech to the max.

Corrupted policies.

Lock up our monies so u cant channel them out. To prevent u from being cheated. But when u get cheated, telcos, banks and authorities all no need to be accountable.

All the scams perpetrated by tiongs and jhk yet cont to give these people chances