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Civil servants all keeping quiet

Started by Arctic, Sep 26, 2024, 11:20 AM

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jim889

Quote from: peaceheart on Sep 26, 2024, 05:51 PMVery unhealthy culture then. Must keep total silent no matter what matter

Held hostage by their job

boh pian need to  payed hdb loan , car loan, renovation loan etc
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Quote from: peaceheart on Sep 26, 2024, 05:51 PMVery unhealthy culture then. Must keep total silent no matter what matter

Held hostage by their job

you are right.

but if u think from the govt or ruling party's perspectives... how can u allow people to speak bad about them esp if u are working for them?

if let's say you work for google, or nestle, it's also frowned upon to talk anything controversial

best is own your own biz.

but example say you start a nasi lemak stall. then ur employee posts something like, fried food is unhealthy. or lousiest nasi lemak stalls in singapore with your stall on it

u also will tulan right
Only money is real

jim889

Quote from: default on Sep 26, 2024, 06:02 PMyou are right.

but if u think from the govt or ruling party's perspectives... how can u allow people to speak bad about them esp if u are working for them?

if let's say you work for google, or nestle, it's also frowned upon to talk anything controversial

best is own your own biz.

but example say you start a nasi lemak stall. then ur employee posts something like, fried food is unhealthy. or lousiest nasi lemak stalls in singapore with your stall on it

u also will tulan right

dun bite the hand that feed chiu
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Arctic

Quote from: default on Sep 26, 2024, 06:02 PMyou are right.

but if u think from the govt or ruling party's perspectives... how can u allow people to speak bad about them esp if u are working for them?

if let's say you work for google, or nestle, it's also frowned upon to talk anything controversial

best is own your own biz.

but example say you start a nasi lemak stall. then ur employee posts something like, fried food is unhealthy. or lousiest nasi lemak stalls in singapore with your stall on it

u also will tulan right

Total silence over something that's outright wrong? I won't badmouth my own dept but will feedback on other dept. In this case, all cs are gov so cannot comment (not badmouth ah) smrt even if they are not from smrt?

The more ppl keep quiet, the worse it will get
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thats why i feel hor cannot say govt or ruling party is always wrong. must take a neutral perspective before criticizing

example like the covid right, i always use this example. if i were govt, say i am a newly elected opposition, i will also mandate vaccinations for first 2-3 rounds

because if u can potentially save millions from dying now(you dont know all the information since only history can judge), i will force this policy

if people die later, later then say. or even if kena cancer

because bo bian, u got to ensure things go back to normal first.

but for some policies i think is really fucked up, like infrastructure and housing nv fix properly then want from 4.5m to 6m to 10m
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Quote from: peaceheart on Sep 26, 2024, 06:25 PMTotal silence over something that's outright wrong? I won't badmouth my own dept but will feedback on other dept. In this case, all cs are gov so cannot comment (not badmouth ah) smrt even if they are not from smrt?

The more ppl keep quiet, the worse it will get

can comment in this case, but all scared of backlash since let's say you are tan ah kow and then ur boss also your facebook friend they will know

u know how pervasive facebook is or not?

sometimes i dont even know the person, they will know and recommend that person, even if i dont have direct friends with him or her

later u kena baotoh and u need to pay bills then how
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Arctic

Quote from: default on Sep 26, 2024, 06:28 PMcan comment in this case, but all scared of backlash since let's say you are tan ah kow and then ur boss also your facebook friend they will know

u know how pervasive facebook is or not?

sometimes i dont even know the person, they will know and recommend that person, even if i dont have direct friends with him or her

later u kena baotoh and u need to pay bills then how

Exactly loh, held hostage by job
Super toxic culture which will only worsen
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Quote from: peaceheart on Sep 26, 2024, 06:33 PMExactly loh, held hostage by job
Super toxic culture which will only worsen

actually all these can be explained by human nature. everyone is selfish if we talk about my nasi lemak stall example

i think they allow internal feedback, but it's seen as crossing the line. just like our chain of command in army.

sure they can have this hotline or u can even talk to directors and above. they will hear u out.

but whether they mark u positively or negatively, it really depends liao. it's like asking to to bet on black or red at the casino
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Quote from: default on Sep 26, 2024, 06:38 PMactually all these can be explained by human nature. everyone is selfish if we talk about my nasi lemak stall example

i think they allow internal feedback, but it's seen as crossing the line. just like our chain of command in army.

sure they can have this hotline or u can even talk to directors and above. they will hear u out.

but whether they mark u positively or negatively, it really depends liao. it's like asking to to bet on black or red at the casino

Just kicking the can down the road hahah

I rmb one of my previous coy super good. They decided to remove hand towel in the toilet. Ppl feedback until they reinstate it. Now that's what feedback box is for! Yah I know it's private org vs gov but I'm just sharing

jim889

Quote from: peaceheart on Sep 26, 2024, 06:42 PMJust kicking the can down the road hahah

I rmb one of my previous coy super good. They decided to remove hand towel in the toilet. Ppl feedback until they reinstate it. Now that's what feedback box is for! Yah I know it's private org vs gov but I'm just sharing

cheng hoo all the moar should take public feedback ma
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Quote from: jim889 on Sep 26, 2024, 08:09 PMcheng hoo all the moar should take public feedback ma
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they got take la, just dont want public and civil servants to say

jim889

Quote from: default on Sep 26, 2024, 08:20 PMthey got take la, just dont want public and civil servants to say

they didnt take feedback. they ownself cum out with idea one
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Quote from: jim889 on Sep 26, 2024, 08:09 PMcheng hoo all the moar should take public feedback ma
 :flash:

They cannot take the heat. the gov petition platform idea got canned.

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Quote from: Banned User on Sep 26, 2024, 09:06 PMThey cannot take the heat. the gov petition platform idea got canned.

kena canned liao ah? rem it was a pet project of our lao da's son
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jim889

Quote from: Banned User on Sep 26, 2024, 09:06 PMThey cannot take the heat. the gov petition platform idea got canned.

cannot talk bad abt cheng hoo

no red alert level in cobid

no corruption in sg
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