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Title: In China now and just realised not returning tray is a very bad sight
Post by: Keeptrucking on Apr 03, 2024, 12:00 AM
I was at macdonalds and saw these two gers left a huge pile of mess behind and the poor understaffed crew had to clean it up.

Seeing from a third party pov really looks very bad on the two gers.

Feels very uncouth.
Title: Re: In China now and just realised not returning tray is a very bad sight
Post by: daryl76 on Apr 03, 2024, 06:21 AM
its china... its uncouth, untidy, unhygienic whether we return tray or not
Title: Re: In China now and just realised not returning tray is a very bad sight
Post by: jim889 on Apr 03, 2024, 06:23 AM
depends on wat area..?

in shanghai beijing or where?
 :frown:
Title: Re: In China now and just realised not returning tray is a very bad sight
Post by: nyvrem on Apr 03, 2024, 07:50 AM
eeyier..

go China for what

 :frown:
Title: Re: In China now and just realised not returning tray is a very bad sight
Post by: Suntan on Apr 03, 2024, 08:44 AM
They hv no cleaners like us too? :eek:
Title: Re: In China now and just realised not returning tray is a very bad sight
Post by: Arctic on Apr 03, 2024, 09:37 AM
Call me lazy or anything but I prefer not to return tray myself
Title: Re: In China now and just realised not returning tray is a very bad sight
Post by: Uncle Lorger on Apr 03, 2024, 01:49 PM
Return tray is good
Last time in hawker, sometimes very difficult to find cleaner to clear the table
And not many of them had those tray return racks

Of course, the downside of the tray return policy, is no one comes to clean the tables ☹️
Title: Re: In China now and just realised not returning tray is a very bad sight
Post by: daryl76 on Apr 03, 2024, 02:32 PM
Quote from: Uncle Lorger on Apr 03, 2024, 01:49 PMReturn tray is good
Last time in hawker, sometimes very difficult to find cleaner to clear the table
And not many of them had those tray return racks

Of course, the downside of the tray return policy, is no one comes to clean the tables ☹️

last time cleaners overwork and cant find them to clean tables

now got cleaners clean tables meh? also dun have what
Title: Re: In China now and just realised not returning tray is a very bad sight
Post by: Suntan on Apr 03, 2024, 02:47 PM
Quote from: peaceheart on Apr 03, 2024, 09:37 AMCall me lazy or anything but I prefer not to return tray myself

Chiu is not lazy at all. Don't let all those self righteous ppl think returning a tray is what a paying customer should do. Anyone feels like doing it, go ahead to do. No need to impose on others to do the same. Moi experience at BKK airport food court is such a good experience. The cleaners were on alert & once we leave, they immediately came to clear. Will hv returning customers for sure with their good customer service.
Title: Re: In China now and just realised not returning tray is a very bad sight
Post by: Arctic on Apr 03, 2024, 03:03 PM
Quote from: Suntan on Apr 03, 2024, 02:47 PMChiu is not lazy at all. Don't let all those self righteous ppl think returning a tray is what a paying customer should do. Anyone feels like doing it, go ahead to do. No need to impose on others to do the same. Moi experience at BKK airport food court is such a good experience. The cleaners were on alert & once we leave, they immediately came to clear. Will hv returning customers for sure with their good customer service.

Thanks

I dun think I'm pampered or entitled but as laying customer, I think the establishment clearing up the table is part of the svc

Thailand they even provide tissue paper at each table loh
Title: Re: In China now and just realised not returning tray is a very bad sight
Post by: Arctic on Apr 03, 2024, 03:04 PM
Quote from: Uncle Lorger on Apr 03, 2024, 01:49 PMReturn tray is good
Last time in hawker, sometimes very difficult to find cleaner to clear the table
And not many of them had those tray return racks

Of course, the downside of the tray return policy, is no one comes to clean the tables ☹️

Means the eatery not hiring enough workers. Something wrong with their system
Title: Re: In China now and just realised not returning tray is a very bad sight
Post by: Aisingioro on Apr 03, 2024, 03:39 PM
a lot of people also don't return tray at fast food joints in SG
Title: Re: In China now and just realised not returning tray is a very bad sight
Post by: daryl76 on Apr 03, 2024, 03:58 PM
Quote from: peaceheart on Apr 03, 2024, 03:03 PMThanks

I dun think I'm pampered or entitled but as laying customer, I think the establishment clearing up the table is part of the svc

Thailand they even provide tissue paper at each table loh

go thailand or even indonesia shiok lah

they clear the trays and tables plus give u tissue paper, knn in sg still need to ask at times
Title: Re: In China now and just realised not returning tray is a very bad sight
Post by: Keeptrucking on Apr 03, 2024, 09:32 PM
Was there for travel and in beijing as well as visited yungang grottos and hanging monataries. Amazing places.

I used to hv very unpleasant thoughts about China folks but my visit has changed a few things:

- their manners hv improved alot due to public education and modernisation. People do hold doors and say thank you. Of course not all.

- they have breathtaking historical and cultural sites.

- people queue up a lot more now.

- they hv advanced very very rapidly over the past twenty years both in terms of infrastructure and social behaviour.

Yes, you still get people smoking in the open, spitting and using loudspeaker on their mobile phones in the train but it is very obvious that their gov wants to eradicate or at least make these better.

I am very sure in another ten to twenty years if China were to continue in this path they will be a first world country with people who can behave in a socially conscious way.

Title: Re: In China now and just realised not returning tray is a very bad sight
Post by: Keeptrucking on Apr 04, 2024, 08:47 AM
Quote from: daryl76 on Apr 03, 2024, 03:58 PMgo thailand or even indonesia shiok lah

they clear the trays and tables plus give u tissue paper, knn in sg still need to ask at times

Wah this is recent? Been a long time since I went there.
Title: Re: In China now and just realised not returning tray is a very bad sight
Post by: Uncle Lorger on Apr 04, 2024, 12:53 PM
Quote from: daryl76 on Apr 03, 2024, 02:32 PMlast time cleaners overwork and cant find them to clean tables

now got cleaners clean tables meh? also dun have what

Yah now got no one clean tables
So what you mean is, last time and now no difference? Since last time cant find the cleaners to clean table, and now the cleaners don't clean the table?

😄

Title: Re: In China now and just realised not returning tray is a very bad sight
Post by: jim889 on Apr 04, 2024, 02:38 PM
Quote from: Uncle Lorger on Apr 04, 2024, 12:53 PMYah now got no one clean tables
So what you mean is, last time and now no difference? Since last time cant find the cleaners to clean table, and now the cleaners don't clean the table?

😄




rast taim kopitiam boss need to hire cleaner clean table
now boss no need

so boss huat
 :frown:
Title: Re: In China now and just realised not returning tray is a very bad sight
Post by: daryl76 on Apr 04, 2024, 03:44 PM
Quote from: Uncle Lorger on Apr 04, 2024, 12:53 PMYah now got no one clean tables
So what you mean is, last time and now no difference? Since last time cant find the cleaners to clean table, and now the cleaners don't clean the table?

😄



i find it worse off actually
now they behave like they are kings and queens, one even told off my wife who placed a plastic cup together with plates on the tray

i jitao told them off, law only says return tray, not segregate rubbish for u.... old fart diam diam

i ever saw also, table wet and some customers ask cleaner to clean, she jitao face black black and gave an attitude
Title: Re: In China now and just realised not returning tray is a very bad sight
Post by: daryl76 on Apr 04, 2024, 03:45 PM
Quote from: Keeptrucking on Apr 04, 2024, 08:47 AMWah this is recent? Been a long time since I went there.

ya, haha last nov went bkk
cny went indonesia with family


Title: Re: In China now and just realised not returning tray is a very bad sight
Post by: 老曾记 on Apr 04, 2024, 04:21 PM
There was once I saw a cleaner in hainanese village hawker breaking down. That was the start of tray returning implementation, I think she was overwhelmed. Plus people called her to clean table. She used to be cheerful and proactive, after this implementation she became irritable and sad. I think they reduce cleaners headcount and caused her mental stressout. Feels so bad for her. I wrote in to some ministry to look into headcount for cleaners hawkers and said staffs are overwhelmed. She tried to dong another yr or so. Nowadays go hainanese village never see her le.   She most likely quitted.
Title: Re: In China now and just realised not returning tray is a very bad sight
Post by: 老曾记 on Apr 04, 2024, 04:24 PM
Trucking kor u go which part of china. I rmb I solo Beijing before and was fun. The local food sucks, fastfood taste better than local food that I tried.
Title: Re: In China now and just realised not returning tray is a very bad sight
Post by: Suntan on Apr 04, 2024, 04:26 PM
Quote from: jim889 on Apr 04, 2024, 02:38 PMrast taim kopitiam boss need to hire cleaner clean table
now boss no need

so boss huat
 :frown:

Boss huat & customers take over cleaning. Price still goes up....sinkies got a long way to learn from China ppl. Cleaning ish not my job :s42:
Title: Re: In China now and just realised not returning tray is a very bad sight
Post by: daryl76 on Apr 04, 2024, 05:48 PM
Quote from: luckyapple on Apr 04, 2024, 04:21 PMThere was once I saw a cleaner in hainanese village hawker breaking down. That was the start of tray returning implementation, I think she was overwhelmed. Plus people called her to clean table. She used to be cheerful and proactive, after this implementation she became irritable and sad. I think they reduce cleaners headcount and caused her mental stressout. Feels so bad for her. I wrote in to some ministry to look into headcount for cleaners hawkers and said staffs are overwhelmed. She tried to dong another yr or so. Nowadays go hainanese village never see her le.   She most likely quitted.

only kumgong sinkies believe not a single cleaner was removed after this stupid tray return scheme
Title: Re: In China now and just realised not returning tray is a very bad sight
Post by: Aisingioro on Apr 05, 2024, 05:07 PM
Quote from: luckyapple on Apr 04, 2024, 04:21 PMThere was once I saw a cleaner in hainanese village hawker breaking down. That was the start of tray returning implementation, I think she was overwhelmed. Plus people called her to clean table. She used to be cheerful and proactive, after this implementation she became irritable and sad. I think they reduce cleaners headcount and caused her mental stressout. Feels so bad for her. I wrote in to some ministry to look into headcount for cleaners hawkers and said staffs are overwhelmed. She tried to dong another yr or so. Nowadays go hainanese village never see her le.   She most likely quitted.

maybe she used Skillsfuture credit to upskill liao, now data scientist in FAANG
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