My frens in cs and saf all diam diam. Dun ever dare to mention/repost the news, it's as if nothing ever happened
Nothing on iswaran, smrt and saf - exercise wallaby
Anybody noticed the same?
When events do not follow their narrative, they cover them up and sweep them under the carpet. Even the school bullying cases, if not for the bully's friend filming and sharing them on social media, would also be covered, and hardly anyone would know.
Quote from: peaceheart on Sep 26, 2024, 11:20 AMMy frens in cs and saf all diam diam. Dun ever dare to mention/repost the news, it's as if nothing ever happened
Nothing on iswaran, smrt and saf - exercise wallaby
Anybody noticed the same?
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-25/tank-crash-leaves-dozen-of-singaporean-soldiers-injured/104392364
CS not supposed to comment that's all i can say.
not supposed to say anything in social media, probably not even in big public settings.. i think discuss is ok
but anyway aiya u all know one la
Quote from: default on Sep 26, 2024, 12:37 PMCS not supposed to comment that's all i can say.
not supposed to say anything in social media, probably not even in big public settings.. i think discuss is ok
but anyway aiya u all know one la
ya cant say else get sack.. or worse get charged under osa
:frown:
thats why all kena castrated 净身
Quote from: default on Sep 26, 2024, 12:37 PMCS not supposed to comment that's all i can say.
not supposed to say anything in social media, probably not even in big public settings.. i think discuss is ok
but anyway aiya u all know one la
Not asking them to criticise, diss or outright scold gov but things happened. How can treat it as just another day?
Also, it is not right to be that afraid of gov just because one is working in cs
Quote from: peaceheart on Sep 26, 2024, 04:14 PMNot asking them to criticise, diss or outright scold gov but things happened. How can treat it as just another day?
Also, it is not right to be that afraid of gov just because one is working in cs
can discuss between friends la, they crazy one.
but cannot comment in social media la as in identifiable, say using facebook profile. but again that is not allowing to criticize policies or what
but of course supposedly frowned upon.
Quote from: default on Sep 26, 2024, 04:19 PMcan discuss between friends la, they crazy one.
but cannot comment in social media la as in identifiable, say using facebook profile. but again that is not allowing to criticize policies or what
but of course supposedly frowned upon.
I dun even see anyone of them posting on social media. Posting only...no comments... Not even that
Cannot post news?
No freedom of speech is lidat wan.
Need to keep on putting laws to shut all of you up
Wan sui, wan sui, wan wan sui :s12: :s12:
Quote from: peaceheart on Sep 26, 2024, 04:22 PMI dun even see anyone of them posting on social media. Posting only...no comments... Not even that
Cannot post news?
their comms department can post
:s13:
Quote from: Suntan on Sep 26, 2024, 04:42 PMNo freedom of speech is lidat wan.
Need to keep on putting laws to shut all of you up
Wan sui, wan sui, wan wan sui :s12: :s12:
60-70% silent majority love this. No wonder smrt fault they also keep quiet. Not an issue for them. BAU.
Quote from: Banned User on Sep 26, 2024, 05:32 PM60-70% silent majority love this. No wonder smrt fault they also keep quiet. Not an issue for them. BAU.
nothing is new wat.
mrt always pai
:s13:
Quote from: peaceheart on Sep 26, 2024, 04:22 PMI dun even see anyone of them posting on social media. Posting only...no comments... Not even that
Cannot post news?
not supposed to. how u want them to post... if discuss on edmw u see some of them got say they are public servant or civil servant before but people must draw the links
i know some of those who got say before. but u stir people, others will also stir u mah
post news can. but if post liao people comment on it u also cannot comment further.... since it's going to be negative might as well dont post
Quote from: default on Sep 26, 2024, 05:37 PMnot supposed to. how u want them to post... if discuss on edmw u see some of them got say they are public servant or civil servant before but people must draw the links
i know some of those who got say before. but u stir people, others will also stir u mah
post news can. but if post liao people comment on it u also cannot comment further.... since it's going to be negative might as well dont post
Very unhealthy culture then. Must keep total silent no matter what matter
Held hostage by their job
Quote from: peaceheart on Sep 26, 2024, 05:51 PMVery unhealthy culture then. Must keep total silent no matter what matter
Held hostage by their job
boh pian need to payed hdb loan , car loan, renovation loan etc
:frown:
Quote from: peaceheart on Sep 26, 2024, 05:51 PMVery unhealthy culture then. Must keep total silent no matter what matter
Held hostage by their job
you are right.
but if u think from the govt or ruling party's perspectives... how can u allow people to speak bad about them esp if u are working for them?
if let's say you work for google, or nestle, it's also frowned upon to talk anything controversial
best is own your own biz.
but example say you start a nasi lemak stall. then ur employee posts something like, fried food is unhealthy. or lousiest nasi lemak stalls in singapore with your stall on it
u also will tulan right
Quote from: default on Sep 26, 2024, 06:02 PMyou are right.
but if u think from the govt or ruling party's perspectives... how can u allow people to speak bad about them esp if u are working for them?
if let's say you work for google, or nestle, it's also frowned upon to talk anything controversial
best is own your own biz.
but example say you start a nasi lemak stall. then ur employee posts something like, fried food is unhealthy. or lousiest nasi lemak stalls in singapore with your stall on it
u also will tulan right
dun bite the hand that feed chiu
:s13:
Quote from: default on Sep 26, 2024, 06:02 PMyou are right.
but if u think from the govt or ruling party's perspectives... how can u allow people to speak bad about them esp if u are working for them?
if let's say you work for google, or nestle, it's also frowned upon to talk anything controversial
best is own your own biz.
but example say you start a nasi lemak stall. then ur employee posts something like, fried food is unhealthy. or lousiest nasi lemak stalls in singapore with your stall on it
u also will tulan right
Total silence over something that's outright wrong? I won't badmouth my own dept but will feedback on other dept. In this case, all cs are gov so cannot comment (not badmouth ah) smrt even if they are not from smrt?
The more ppl keep quiet, the worse it will get
thats why i feel hor cannot say govt or ruling party is always wrong. must take a neutral perspective before criticizing
example like the covid right, i always use this example. if i were govt, say i am a newly elected opposition, i will also mandate vaccinations for first 2-3 rounds
because if u can potentially save millions from dying now(you dont know all the information since only history can judge), i will force this policy
if people die later, later then say. or even if kena cancer
because bo bian, u got to ensure things go back to normal first.
but for some policies i think is really fucked up, like infrastructure and housing nv fix properly then want from 4.5m to 6m to 10m
Quote from: peaceheart on Sep 26, 2024, 06:25 PMTotal silence over something that's outright wrong? I won't badmouth my own dept but will feedback on other dept. In this case, all cs are gov so cannot comment (not badmouth ah) smrt even if they are not from smrt?
The more ppl keep quiet, the worse it will get
can comment in this case, but all scared of backlash since let's say you are tan ah kow and then ur boss also your facebook friend they will know
u know how pervasive facebook is or not?
sometimes i dont even know the person, they will know and recommend that person, even if i dont have direct friends with him or her
later u kena baotoh and u need to pay bills then how
Quote from: default on Sep 26, 2024, 06:28 PMcan comment in this case, but all scared of backlash since let's say you are tan ah kow and then ur boss also your facebook friend they will know
u know how pervasive facebook is or not?
sometimes i dont even know the person, they will know and recommend that person, even if i dont have direct friends with him or her
later u kena baotoh and u need to pay bills then how
Exactly loh, held hostage by job
Super toxic culture which will only worsen
Quote from: peaceheart on Sep 26, 2024, 06:33 PMExactly loh, held hostage by job
Super toxic culture which will only worsen
actually all these can be explained by human nature. everyone is selfish if we talk about my nasi lemak stall example
i think they allow internal feedback, but it's seen as crossing the line. just like our chain of command in army.
sure they can have this hotline or u can even talk to directors and above. they will hear u out.
but whether they mark u positively or negatively, it really depends liao. it's like asking to to bet on black or red at the casino
Quote from: default on Sep 26, 2024, 06:38 PMactually all these can be explained by human nature. everyone is selfish if we talk about my nasi lemak stall example
i think they allow internal feedback, but it's seen as crossing the line. just like our chain of command in army.
sure they can have this hotline or u can even talk to directors and above. they will hear u out.
but whether they mark u positively or negatively, it really depends liao. it's like asking to to bet on black or red at the casino
Just kicking the can down the road hahah
I rmb one of my previous coy super good. They decided to remove hand towel in the toilet. Ppl feedback until they reinstate it. Now that's what feedback box is for! Yah I know it's private org vs gov but I'm just sharing
Quote from: peaceheart on Sep 26, 2024, 06:42 PMJust kicking the can down the road hahah
I rmb one of my previous coy super good. They decided to remove hand towel in the toilet. Ppl feedback until they reinstate it. Now that's what feedback box is for! Yah I know it's private org vs gov but I'm just sharing
cheng hoo all the moar should take public feedback ma
:flash:
Quote from: jim889 on Sep 26, 2024, 08:09 PMcheng hoo all the moar should take public feedback ma
:flash:
they got take la, just dont want public and civil servants to say
Quote from: default on Sep 26, 2024, 08:20 PMthey got take la, just dont want public and civil servants to say
they didnt take feedback. they ownself cum out with idea one
:s13:
Quote from: jim889 on Sep 26, 2024, 08:09 PMcheng hoo all the moar should take public feedback ma
:flash:
They cannot take the heat. the gov petition platform idea got canned.
Quote from: Banned User on Sep 26, 2024, 09:06 PMThey cannot take the heat. the gov petition platform idea got canned.
kena canned liao ah? rem it was a pet project of our lao da's son
Quote from: Banned User on Sep 26, 2024, 09:06 PMThey cannot take the heat. the gov petition platform idea got canned.
cannot talk bad abt cheng hoo
no red alert level in cobid
no corruption in sg
:flash:
Quote from: peaceheart on Sep 26, 2024, 11:20 AMMy frens in cs and saf all diam diam. Dun ever dare to mention/repost the news, it's as if nothing ever happened
Nothing on iswaran, smrt and saf - exercise wallaby
Anybody noticed the same?
It's complicated. First and foremost there is the don't bite the hand that feeds you and of cos OSA
BUT there is another reason
Cos if CS comment, people might think that this CS got insider info as opposed to just another person jjww. This can lead to complications
Example
A friend tell you he went to ane and saw the crowd and it's dangerous. You will just tell others my friend saw this and said this and everyone just nod their heads and f pap
An emergency nurse said he went to the ane and saw the crowd and it's dangerous. You tell others and people might jump cos it must be super serious if an emergency nurse said it.
See the difference?
If someone just comment on exercise wallaby, it's just a comment. If a CS comments, people might wonder if he comment based on personal feeling or he knows insider info. This will make that particular CS life difficult when people keep asking why you think like that don't be shy etc etc
So best to keep quiet
Quote from: Philipkee on Sep 26, 2024, 10:04 PMIt's complicated. First and foremost there is the don't bite the hand that feeds you and of cos OSA
BUT there is another reason
Cos if CS comment, people might think that this CS got insider info as opposed to just another person jjww. This can lead to complications
Example
A friend tell you he went to ane and saw the crowd and it's dangerous. You will just tell others my friend saw this and said this and everyone just nod their heads and f pap
An emergency nurse said he went to the ane and saw the crowd and it's dangerous. You tell others and people might jump cos it must be super serious if an emergency nurse said it.
See the difference?
If someone just comment on exercise wallaby, it's just a comment. If a CS comments, people might wonder if he comment based on personal feeling or he knows insider info. This will make that particular CS life difficult when people keep asking why you think like that don't be shy etc etc
So best to keep quiet
I know it's complicated but it's just sad it has become the way it is now
Also, what OSA? Comment only...not revealing any secrets at all
If someone died in the exercise wallaby, cannot post/ comment "RIP Soldier" meh???
And cs doesn't mean he/she is from that particular cs division
Quote from: peaceheart on Sep 26, 2024, 10:39 PMI know it's complicated but it's just sad it has become the way it is now
Also, what OSA? Comment only...not revealing any secrets at all
If someone died in the exercise wallaby, cannot post/ comment "RIP Soldier" meh???
And cs doesn't mean he/she is from that particular cs division
Just like the current state of edmw. Other platforms can comment on ceca but edmwers cannot.
Quote from: Banned User on Sep 26, 2024, 10:55 PMJust like the current state of edmw. Other platforms can comment on ceca but edmwers cannot.
Worst are those who like to claim credit the way their masters do
Regulars always like to say they keep sg safe bs on social media, wear uniform on SAF day, national day to wayang
Even have frens working in LTA haolian work OT to plan roads, go on site check post on social media lol. Knn as if other jobs no OT no on site
all praise pappy :s13:
Quote from: peaceheart on Sep 26, 2024, 10:39 PMI know it's complicated but it's just sad it has become the way it is now
Also, what OSA? Comment only...not revealing any secrets at all
If someone died in the exercise wallaby, cannot post/ comment "RIP Soldier" meh???
And cs doesn't mean he/she is from that particular cs division
Saying RIP soldier is no issue. Guess they just have nothing to say on this. OTOH if they were in the same unit, better not say so much
OSA? It depends. If I put RIP soldier and stop there, no issue. But usually I will end up with more stories and details even if it's based on past experience and then I kenna. Thing about social media is people usually don't stop at just RIP soldier. They will keep on going and then readers will probe etc
True. Not same division but sometimes people will think you have insider info cos you know people on CS and maybe you know someone who knows something etc etc especially if same organisation. Like in the army, maybe you know something about this incident in the airforce in your internal memos that's why you comment like this etc
Quote from: Philipkee on Sep 27, 2024, 08:46 AMSaying RIP soldier is no issue. Guess they just have nothing to say on this. OTOH if they were in the same unit, better not say so much
OSA? It depends. If I put RIP soldier and stop there, no issue. But usually I will end up with more stories and details even if it's based on past experience and then I kenna. Thing about social media is people usually don't stop at just RIP soldier. They will keep on going and then readers will probe etc
True. Not same division but sometimes people will think you have insider info cos you know people on CS and maybe you know someone who knows something etc etc especially if same organisation. Like in the army, maybe you know something about this incident in the airforce in your internal memos that's why you comment like this etc
just keep chiur mouth shut rah
:frown:
If cs/uniformed groups diam diam i think cases such as this would have been covered up and BAU for the public.
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Quote from: peaceheart on Sep 26, 2024, 10:39 PMI know it's complicated but it's just sad it has become the way it is now
Also, what OSA? Comment only...not revealing any secrets at all
If someone died in the exercise wallaby, cannot post/ comment "RIP Soldier" meh???
And cs doesn't mean he/she is from that particular cs division
Rip soldier is ok.
If say sth like, they shd improve on maintenance is also ok bah. But most rather not comment in case some is gray area.
My facebook i nv post at all. Only maybe less than 3 times per yr
Quote from: default on Sep 27, 2024, 01:36 PMRip soldier is ok.
If say sth like, they shd improve on maintenance is also ok bah. But most rather not comment in case some is gray area.
My facebook i nv post at all. Only maybe less than 3 times per yr
I know the complications but it's just sad lah the toxic state it is
in now
Sometimes must know your rights and be firm but at the same time not abusive
Not long ago, I picked up a wallet and went to the neighbourhood police post to report it. The self svc kisok/machine is down, there was only 1 counter open and there was 3 pax before me. As I had things to do, I decided not to wait and went off. Happened to bump into 2 policemen returning from their patrol. Told them what happened and insisted that they take over the wallet. Told them I'm rushing for time, not returning anytime soon and they can take done my statement and particulars there and then... And they did. Sometimes just need to push a little
In before lost wallet no need to report police and disrespect police/Cs will get charged
mai rock da boat plz
year end coming riao, all want finish year nice nice so can get bonus
:crazy:
Quote from: nyvrem on Sep 27, 2024, 07:36 PMmai rock da boat plz
year end coming riao, all want finish year nice nice so can get bonus
:crazy:
Year endonly? It's 365 days, 24/7, 7-11 diam diam loh
Quote from: peaceheart on Sep 27, 2024, 07:47 PMYear endonly? It's 365 days, 24/7, 7-11 diam diam loh
lay low, out of sight out of mind
raid well, raid together
:o