It is easy to take a moral stand if there is no cost to you. Agree?

[Philipkee]

I saw a post on HWZ that kind of resonated with me.  A lot of people support Ukraine fighting on against Russia cos it's not them doing the dying. It's easy to take a stand if there is no cost to yourself

[Arctic]

Yes cos talk is cheap

[defiant]

Ya agree. I would say i agree with trump's stand rather than biden. For now.

U give russia a small piece of land and some 台阶 to let them shut up. Putin is alr 70 or sth right? If he cant win ukraine, how will he invade further?

If he does it again then the world has the reason to stop him.

[Nevereatri∁e]

End of the day, only money is real. The US does not gain from funding Ukraine with weapons and money when the war is at a stalemate since the start of Russia's invasion. Without USA funding Ukraine, Ukraine would have GGed. I doubt Western Europe is willing to help Ukraine as well. They are just taking advantage of USA to do the dirty deed.

[defiant]

End of the day, only money is real. The US does not gain from funding Ukraine with weapons and money when the war is at a stalemate since the start of Russia's invasion. Without USA funding Ukraine, Ukraine would have GGed. I doubt Western Europe is willing to help Ukraine as well. They are just taking advantage of USA to do the dirty deed.

Proxy war to test weapons lor. Now US finish experiment and people died 7788 so trump wants to end the war.

Nothing different since beginning of times. 草菅人命

[Philipkee]

Proxy war to test weapons lor. Now US finish experiment and people died 7788 so trump wants to end the war.

Nothing different since beginning of times. 草菅人命

I think trump never believed in proxy war. Just what advantage can he get for America.  In a way, he is a patriot.  But a very amoral one

[Nevereatri∁e]

Proxy war to test weapons lor. Now US finish experiment and people died 7788 so trump wants to end the war.

Nothing different since beginning of times. 草菅人命

Western European countries are also not simple. They don't like eastern slav countries.

[Philipkee]

Western European countries are also not simple. They don't like eastern slav countries.

Like some said, it's ok to prolong the war cos it's Ukrainians doing they dying

[Magical Fingertip]

Those armchair fatsos sit on couch type like 3 star general can just ignore. Mother paying for their food internet bills that's why. The war drag 100 yrs also non of their concern

[defiant]

I think trump never believed in proxy war. Just what advantage can he get for America.  In a way, he is a patriot.  But a very amoral one

he was not POTUS when the war in effect mah. if he had been re-elected back then, i believe he would stop Putin also - at that time.

It's better now that he's in a better position to negotiate now as the new POTUS

but that time people and Putin also said hes afraid of Trump, he is unpredictable

but people say conspiracy abt Trump being Putin's dog. dont know also. i think unlikely... the same bunch of people lumping the issues of hating china/XJP together with russia attacking ukraine

their brain damn fucking 1 way and damn simplistic

im not saying Trump is faultless, Putin is faultless

but now US is trying to help Ukraine and the world from going into WW3 and getting more people dead. Yes Russia invaded, im not discounting this fact

but the fact is now the war is almost 1 sided and Ukraine stands more to lose

im saying to let Russia annex a smaller part of land and making the place a DMZ like Korea

if Russia invades again, even if Trump does not want to fight, his people and congress will push for action against Russia and China

以退为进

then those at hwz will say ya then nxt time u let japanese attack or whatever attack SG lor

I always give this examples to my friends or whatever when they refuse to take meds, or do drastic measures. Now you are sick, or got 1 part need to chop off. Will you cut that part off to prevent infection from spreading then later fix it somehow (or take meds that affect u temporarily)

or do u just let the whole  damn thing rot and kill u? if u dont take this meds to function at work, ure going to lose the job

is losing the job going to help ur situation?

u put it into this ukraine vs RU situation it's the same damn thing. it's gangrenous, cut it off first

[defiant]

Western European countries are also not simple. They don't like eastern slav countries.

actually all these are psychology just like how sinkies see some people higher SES, some lower depending on race, nationality and beliefs..... how they dress etc. u get the point

eastern slav is poorer and undeveloped lor

west european also the not in my backyard mentality just like sinkies also

[炎杀黑龙波]

Easy is true, but end day it's still the individual and their nature, you won't see me commenting in those threads at all

[Arctic]

Mot classic example I know of is sinkie wowen mostly support ns but only for sinkie guys

Even know a sinkie guy with 2 daughters who agreed with ns for guys only and women charter must stay

[Philipkee]

I also wrote there people will say MUST support Ukraine or you are commie supporter then if PAP say ok raise GST to support Ukraine suddenly will have what profligate spending la, cannot manage money etc accusations coming out

[Nevereatri∁e]

actually all these are psychology just like how sinkies see some people higher SES, some lower depending on race, nationality and beliefs..... how they dress etc. u get the point

eastern slav is poorer and undeveloped lor

west european also the not in my backyard mentality just like sinkies also

Same same everywhere . Europe pwn europe. 5000 years of europe