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Would you risk your career and life over a principle if you were paid millionsns

Started by Philipkee, Nov 30, 2024, 08:11 AM

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Quote from: Philipkee on Nov 30, 2024, 03:02 PMAt least u r honest

What abt u? What hv u to say abt ur own values n principles ? If u r the entry ambassador
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Quote from: Philipkee on Nov 30, 2024, 08:11 AMJust curious. 
 
i keep reading like this minister should do this or do that cos he is paid millions to do so.
 
Let's say you were paid millions and you were in that position, would you risk your job for that?
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Female NS (maybe for nursing).  You are sure it's good but it would mean even more people are delayed entry into the workforce which could lead to companies hiring more foreigners or moving out (again it might not happen but you have to make the decision first).
 
Scrap NS have a fully volunteer armed force of career soldiers.  Seems good but if there is an invasion and lack of soldiers, that's it.  Of cos the invasion might not happen but if it happens and we are conquered cos lack of soldiers, it's you who will be made responsible cos you scrapped NS.  Would you do it?  Obviously we might still be conquered even with NS but at least you won't be condemned as the one who scrapped NS and made us more vulnerable

if we r at Ukraine situation
I ll recommend all conscript exception of mothers to below 5 yr old n caregivers who can prove no one else can replace them

In time of war hvg gender two is not efficient
But if one day all women become like Arnold Schwarzenegger shape n muscle % then we conscript all women I ll also support cos then the costs may be in line with benefits of hvg such soldiers

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Philipkee

Quote from: eatRiceBeHappy on Nov 30, 2024, 03:20 PMWhat abt u? What hv u to say abt ur own values n principles ? If u r the entry ambassador

Two scenarios

Old lady, unvaccinated blah blah.  I will follow the law even if I disagree with it

Same scenario just want to use the toilet just beside my counter and then go off (I thinking of IMM where toilets are next to exit), will close an eye.  But let's say the woman chest my feelings and go toilet then come out then go shopping, I will strictly follow the law liao no matter what

encourageSome1

Quote from: Philipkee on Nov 30, 2024, 03:44 PMTwo scenarios

Old lady, unvaccinated blah blah.  I will follow the law even if I disagree with it

Same scenario just want to use the toilet just beside my counter and then go off (I thinking of IMM where toilets are next to exit), will close an eye.  But let's say the woman chest my feelings and go toilet then come out then go shopping, I will strictly follow the law liao no matter what

Why she ll hurt ur feeling a ? So many  woman walk around hurting ppl feeling easily meh ?

Philipkee

Quote from: eatRiceBeHappy on Nov 30, 2024, 03:46 PMWhy she ll hurt ur feeling a ? So many  woman walk around hurting ppl feeling easily meh ?

Cos I took a chance and she betrayed me. :(

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actually the other day i was thinking

there's a difference between

morals
principles
ethics

and legally of course

and dunno got what other terms. very near but got a fine line of impt difference

example morals is like whether a woman will sell herself to get promotion. it's also principles. or a guy who will give in to a gay.

or maybe even lesser issues like watch porn

but principles can be many things also like, wont do anything like charge higher price. or principally you wont overpay or buy things from touts or resellers

then ethically is like when masks are run out, will u sell masks more expensively or source from less clean places like india?


u see all the above examples are legal. just like that time the SCDF and many other sex scandals... it's just a fine line.

technically watching porn is not fine because it already encompasses downloading... it's up to the govt whether they want to charge. next also infringe on rights...

morally is it wrong? to some it's morals, to others it's nothing concerning morals
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What's the difference between morals and ethics?
Ethics vs. Morals: What's the Difference?
Morals refer to a sense of right or wrong. Ethics, on the other hand, refer more to principles of "good" versus "evil" that are generally agreed upon by a community.

Philipkee

Quote from: default on Nov 30, 2024, 04:17 PMactually the other day i was thinking

there's a difference between

morals
principles
ethics

and legally of course

and dunno got what other terms. very near but got a fine line of impt difference

example morals is like whether a woman will sell herself to get promotion. it's also principles

but principles can be many things also like, wont do anything like charge higher price. or principally you wont overpay or buy things from touts or resellers

then ethically is like when masks are run out, will u sell masks more expensively or source from less clean places like india?


u see all the above examples are legal. just like that time the SCDF and many other sex scandals... it's just a fine line
Not only legal.  Moral, ethics and principles are all subjective.  Only law is objective.



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ya lor. but ethics a bit touch on law liao

like legal ethics, professional ethics, doctor ethics
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Quote from: default on Nov 30, 2024, 04:21 PMya lor. but ethics a bit touch on law liao

like legal ethics, professional ethics, doctor ethics

Vaguely

Breach ethical code of conduct you are going to be disciplined by your medical council or nursing council or whatever BUT not in court of law.  It's only when the breach becomes an illegal act then it goes to court of law.

An example

A doctor was late for an appointment and he said sorry mybfd was busy making money.  Patient complain maybe he get pay cut but that's it.  Unethical but not illegal.

He was late and he said sorry but because he was late cos making money, he did not do some checks cos in a rush and patient got injured.  Patient complain and can sue for negligence.  Unethical also but now has gone to a tort iirc

He was late and he said he was sorry cos he was busy making money so he said knn to patient why u rush me and then kept saying you make me rush now I lose money I will take revenge on you.. it's unethical but now has gone into an illegal act of harassment plus assault.
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encourageSome1

Quote from: Philipkee on Nov 30, 2024, 04:19 PMNot only legal.  Moral, ethics and principles are all subjective.  Only law is objective.



hmm God s laws r objective too ? Thou shalt not sin

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Quote from: default on Nov 30, 2024, 04:21 PMya lor. but ethics a bit touch on law liao

like legal ethics, professional ethics, doctor ethics
Yea I think this is code of conduct that is legally binding ? 
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I'll probably take the risk to abolish ns. Either way we are invaded by foreigners, either due to external threat or national policy.
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Philipkee

Quote from: eatRiceBeHappy on Nov 30, 2024, 05:08 PMhmm God s laws r objective too ? Thou shalt not sin


God's laws are laws.  It's called the 10 commandments and not the 10 recommendations

Philipkee

Quote from: eatRiceBeHappy on Nov 30, 2024, 05:09 PMYea I think this is code of conduct that is legally binding ? 


I think code of conduct per se are not legally binding but of cos the code of conduct will tell you to follow the law so breaching that code is also illegal

Breach code of conduct - go before the board, not the court.  If by breaching the code of conduct you end up breaking the law, then you go to court.

Breach the law - go before the court and not the board.  After the court pass sentence then it's up to the board if they want to do further disciplinary measure
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