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Quote from: Philipkee on Oct 14, 2024, 11:27 PMMeaning if HR only offered x plus $500 but I told my friend I got x plus $1000 and he really tried to get a job with x plus $1000 and failed.  I will always wonder if I should not have lied


I'm not sure if anyone will do that to sabo their own friend, I didn't lie about the salary. It's only whether should have told her to ask lesser salary (since she asked me for opinion)due to her job history or let her decide.
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Quote from: oldchangkee on Oct 15, 2024, 12:10 AMI'm not sure if anyone will do that to sabo their own friend. It's only whether should have told her to ask lesser salary due to her job history or let her decide.

U shd have straight up told her the truth and let her choose lor. U didnt mislead her in the first place right? She chose to do it lor.

Its an employers market now across all industries esp since now no war or disease yet
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Quote from: default on Oct 15, 2024, 12:13 AMU shd have straight up told her the truth and let her choose lor. U didnt mislead her in the first place right? She chose to do it lor.

Its an employers market now across all industries esp since now no war or disease yet

I didn't lie about the salary and job scope la. Everything is out in the open. She knows all the salary ranges that are mentioned in that job. She knew all the numbers prior to applying for the job, website alr put the max rate.
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Quote from: oldchangkee on Oct 15, 2024, 12:14 AMI didn't lie about the salary and job scope la. Everything is out in the open. She knows all the salary ranges that are mentioned in that job.

Means she made that choice lor. Did u break down to her?

Beggars cant be choosers tbh. She chose to sell high they nv bite.

U rem what happened to me that time right

Its a bit of luck and timing... if u heng suddenly can get twice

She chose to double down and they didnt bite lor
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Quote from: default on Oct 15, 2024, 12:17 AMMeans she made that choice lor. Did u break down to her?

Beggars cant be choosers tbh. She chose to sell high they nv bite.

U rem what happened to me that time right

Its a bit of luck and timing... if u heng suddenly can get twice

She chose to double down and they didnt bite lor

She knew the price I'm asking for is not normal, she knows the normal range. She knew I'm tapping on the company being desperate, and that it's a little harder to find workers that work in my role.
Actually if she manage to ask the same rate as me. I will be very happy for her. We thought this company is kumgong can just chop their carrot, since I tried and success.

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Quote from: oldchangkee on Oct 15, 2024, 12:22 AMShe knew the price I'm asking for is not normal, she knows the normal range. She knew I'm tapping on the company being desperate, and that it's a little harder to find workers that work in my role.
Actually if she manage to ask the same rate as me. I will be very happy for her. We thought this company is kumgong can just chop their carrot, since I tried and success.

i think u were lucky to be able to chop them that time.

i also would be happy for her if she got like yours coz now like market not v good.
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Quote from: default on Oct 15, 2024, 12:28 AMi think u were lucky to be able to chop them that time.

i also would be happy for her if she got like yours coz now like market not v good.

I was lucky. The job posting has been there for months and no one wanted it. Glassdoor 1* all written by staffs that were probably fired.

I was hoping she could join me, she haven't had a reasonably good job in her work life so far.

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Quote from: oldchangkee on Oct 15, 2024, 12:22 AMShe knew the price I'm asking for is not normal, she knows the normal range. She knew I'm tapping on the company being desperate, and that it's a little harder to find workers that work in my role.
Actually if she manage to ask the same rate as me. I will be very happy for her. We thought this company is kumgong can just chop their carrot, since I tried and success.

To be honest in the first place I won't even tell her I'm asking for x + 1k. I will just keep it as the assumption I applied the role w whatever range shown at website.

But I would just at most share w her if get offer can consider to ask for more.

But to me this is a generic advice that I tell anyone including internet stranger when comes to pay. #1 rule is always nego pay. Hr will always have budget to buffer a bit more. And even if nv get higher also no nvm at least u tried.
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Quote from: oldchangkee on Oct 15, 2024, 12:32 AMI was lucky. The job posting has been there for months and no one wanted it. Glassdoor 1* all written by staffs that were probably fired.

I was hoping she could join me, she haven't had a reasonably good job in her work life so far.


You are really a sweet friend always looking out for the people around you. Maybe this why you got it lucky caz of your good karma.

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If I get the situation correctly from TS explanation.

A must quickly accept what HR given since $+$500+500. He/she got good experience at govt sector 10-15 yrs. Coy willing to accept & give higher. Mai tu liao.

B is not supposed to be privy to know each other's salary or HR will not take both. Hopefully B does not backstab A. Salary is confidential. B should not even ask for more since B is ok for $+$500 sure won't get at $+$500+$500. While budget is important but exception can be made if finding the right fit.
Tell B up to her/him. Any consequences B will hv to bear not A.
For sure A must quickly go in. Then when kick out FT, hv vacancy, bring B in. Tats how FTs kick experienced sinkie out once they get in.
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Quote from: X on Oct 15, 2024, 03:00 AMTo be honest in the first place I won't even tell her I'm asking for x + 1k. I will just keep it as the assumption I applied the role w whatever range shown at website.

But I would just at most share w her if get offer can consider to ask for more.

But to me this is a generic advice that I tell anyone including internet stranger when comes to pay. #1 rule is always nego pay. Hr will always have budget to buffer a bit more. And even if nv get higher also no nvm at least u tried.

I think this is a sound advice.
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Quote from: Suntan on Oct 15, 2024, 08:09 AMIf I get the situation correctly from TS explanation.

A must quickly accept what HR given since $+$500+500. He/she got good experience at govt sector 10-15 yrs. Coy willing to accept & give higher. Mai tu liao.

B is not supposed to be privy to know each other's salary or HR will not take both. Hopefully B does not backstab A. Salary is confidential. B should not even ask for more since B is ok for $+$500 sure won't get at $+$500+$500. While budget is important but exception can be made if finding the right fit.
Tell B up to her/him. Any consequences B will hv to bear not A.
For sure A must quickly go in. Then when kick out FT, hv vacancy, bring B in. Tats how FTs kick experienced sinkie out once they get in.


A got in alr.
There are a few kena fired. a few religion of peace form a clique and went around bullying people
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Quote from: oldchangkee on Oct 15, 2024, 01:33 PMA got in alr.
There are a few kena fired. a few religion of peace form a clique and went around bullying people

Good. A stablised first and just follow boss. Religion of peace if sinkies let boss handle and hv sinkies better than FTs. Surely can get B in and then got ally easy to huddle together and work together since both havegood experience in the field.
Jia You!
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