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Thoughts on Cost of living

Started by encourageSome1, Sep 14, 2024, 10:22 PM

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Has cost of living remained steady over recent years vs rest of developed world ?

Yes COL are stable n affordable
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Yes COL stable but not very affordable
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No COL rise so much but it's affordable generally
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No COL rise so much I feel strangled
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Other (pls share ur own thoughts )
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Total Members Voted: 6

Voting closed: Sep 28, 2024, 10:22 PM

Arctic

Quote from: Joe Maya on Sep 15, 2024, 05:33 PMIn their 40s but 2 kids in kindergarten...

Wah 40s but is your uncle

I know of 1 such couple too. Both are ite grads. Husband drive phv and used to be security guard.. Wife is doing some low admin job. 2 kids

I ever heard low income couple say having children is not expensive too but I digress. I'm not a parents but if providing shelter and 3 meals a day then of cos very doable but nowadays there are many expenses. Even for 3 meals, everyday eat Maggie mee or cai png meh?

jim889

too bad rah.

take it or leave it
 :frown:
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you can afford doesnt mean it's affordable

say a family makes 12k or even 15k. many things can afford, but purchasing power is getting smaller

generally we are going downhill and the govt is one of the main causes. of course includes worldwide situation

some of the things they can control or enforce but they nv do anything much, like housing prices and hawker, shops price gouging

like they say what kopi powder increase. mainly is the business owner greed + rise in rent rather than what kopi powder increase.

i just went to buy kopi powder. the better quality i think is $16 per kg the best quality at those shop maybe $20. not counting in those more atas specialized coffee bean outlets lah

but frankly the coffee already sell at dunno $1.80 or what at toast box (i nv buy fr them la), now tiagong dunno is $2.30 or $2.50

if u make at least 3-4k per mth u also can afford. but is it affordable or does it make sense? answer is no
Only money is real

bsg

Col is based on

Needs Vs Wants

3 meals in hawker vs 3 meals in restoran

Wear normal clothing vs wear branded clothing

Take BMW vs drive BMW

Sstay pigeon hole hdb vs stay condo landed

Go holiday in se asia vs go holiday in exotic places

Fly budget cattle class vs fly full fare biz class

Joe Maya

Quote from: bsg on Sep 15, 2024, 09:51 PMCol is based on

Needs Vs Wants

3 meals in hawker vs 3 meals in restoran

Wear normal clothing vs wear branded clothing

Take BMW vs drive BMW

Sstay pigeon hole hdb vs stay condo landed

Go holiday in se asia vs go holiday in exotic places

Fly budget cattle class vs fly full fare biz class


Citizen or Rolex or Richard Mille.
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bsg

Quote from: Joe Maya on Sep 15, 2024, 09:53 PMCitizen or Rolex or Richard Mille.

Rolex is needs

Pp is wants
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Quote from: bsg on Sep 15, 2024, 09:51 PMCol is based on

Needs Vs Wants

3 meals in hawker vs 3 meals in restoran

Wear normal clothing vs wear branded clothing

Take BMW vs drive BMW

Sstay pigeon hole hdb vs stay condo landed

Go holiday in se asia vs go holiday in exotic places

Fly budget cattle class vs fly full fare biz class


Col based on needs where got affordable, especially in the case of hdb flat?
Not everyone can get hdb flats at bto prices.

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Quote from: bsg on Sep 15, 2024, 09:55 PMRolex is needs

Pp is wants

wrong, even seiko/citizen is a want. casio maybe cheaper version is a need

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encourageSome1

Quote from: default on Sep 15, 2024, 11:08 PMwrong, even seiko/citizen is a want. casio maybe cheaper version is a need


Heng I work
If 50.00 a Casio watch
My pa last time one human working he can't afford lei
5 /6 mouths depend on him eh
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encourageSome1

Quote from: default on Sep 14, 2024, 11:13 PMit is definitely a big factor in why they dare not call for snap elections after LW took over

more than likely nxt yr will have v big ang pow
when lkk was young
Thing were affordable n no handouts

Things were basic n all need based than wants based
We hardly got cover walkways
Cc s usually quite open concept
Now everything covered walkway
Cc is like castle enclosed n lock out rest of community

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encourageSome1

Quote from: default on Sep 14, 2024, 11:16 PMactually how u define COL. does it include housing?

hmm but either way with or without, i think it's ridiculous.

whether or not it's ok right... let's say u make 4k per mth. i think can cope. but not acceptable because the costs are crazy enough

like slowly boiling frogs

must see everything in tandem to salary and rise in salary. also cannot just look at civil service. even though i feel working for govt or GLC is alr depressing wages enough if u include car and house, compared to say 20, 30 yrs ago when everything including housing and cars are still affordable

now it's not

transport costs alow increase by dunno what 6% or more, but real wages increase by 1-3%?

then the yakun or normal kopitiam also increase by that or more

electricity also going up. only say give vouchers to block for time being
Housing flipped 11-12 times vs when I was a kid but if my pa were to be 30 yo now doing same construction job he used to do
I think he salary maybe only x2 of his olden days when I was kid
So only minister can keep up w rising col bah

I think 4 k is ok for single and one - two generally fit n healthy parent
 If got kids and family expenses I think will need to budget carefully n like my mom : everyth also we don't want cos we can't afford
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Quote from: EncourageSome1 on Sep 15, 2024, 11:43 PMHeng I work
If 50.00 a Casio watch
My pa last time one human working he can't afford lei
5 /6 mouths depend on him eh


Depends on hw impt it is to u lor.
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Quote from: EncourageSome1 on Sep 15, 2024, 11:51 PMHousing flipped 11-12 times vs when I was a kid but if my pa were to be 30 yo now doing same construction job he used to do
I think he salary maybe only x2 of his olden days when I was kid
So only minister can keep up w rising col bah

I think 4 k is ok for single and one - two generally fit n healthy parent
 If got kids and family expenses I think will need to budget carefully n like my mom : everyth also we don't want cos we can't afford
Hw he flip so many times? 12 times means MOP of 60 yrs? Unless u talking abt private?
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Arctic

Quote from: Banned User on Sep 15, 2024, 10:53 PMCol based on needs where got affordable, especially in the case of hdb flat?
Not everyone can get hdb flats at bto prices.

$1k salary can buy hdb according to pineapple man
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Arctic

Quote from: EncourageSome1 on Sep 15, 2024, 11:43 PMHeng I work
If 50.00 a Casio watch
My pa last time one human working he can't afford lei
5 /6 mouths depend on him eh


Last time sole breadwinner can support family of 6. Now dual income also struggling

In before cos couple spend too much on needs. Eg hols to Europe and car etc


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