Should discussions be based on facts or feelings or both?

[Suntan]

Depends on how good is the people handling the data. U do know we hv half data..
If gst goes up, see the prices r up even higher. Feeling is right. Both facts & feel are important.
Only 2 things r real in life for dinkies. Taxes & death.

[Shiori]

feelings 1st logic 2nd

[Geneco]

From our experience on hwz already know people cannot handle facts and reasoning one lolololol...

Cause they won't be so hardworking to do the hard work.

Even Senior Mod Intrinion can lie about reading a scientific journal in full, but kenna sexposed to read only the "abstract" because it's convenient to cherry pick that to support his POV....

[bsg]

Same what

Got people go parliament ask for facts figures data aka logic

People use emotion aka question
Whats the point of this.

Why surprised ley.

Already see it being done at high level liao

[bsg]

Simple one, don't even need to argue 2 pax. I sometimes alone also struggle with myself on betting method.

Bacaraat table _- focus on just result player win, banker win, tie only.

Beside screen shows previous rounds results.

pbppppbttbtbp

U look at screen. Without habing been there for the previous results so u didn't have chance to see the cards dealt and count yr probability of remaining cards face value.

Logic means bet on p but that's cos based on historical data. Higher odds of p appearing prior.

Emotion means bet on b but that's cos u don't believe history repeating itself and usually per yr experience most tables are alloted cards favoring banker table cos no comms. And also u remember this chio croupier last time u won also is a banker game majority table.

[Banned User]

Discussions are mostly based on opinions. The other side has a lot of glasshearts who are quick to report posts that don't fit their story.

[encourageSome1]

Recently I had a discussion with a friend.  He is very logical and data driven while I am more of the emotional and tiagong side.

So we discussed on this topic.  And I realise it's very hard to get him to see my point of view and vice versa.  Cos he demands facts and data.

Example
If a govt policy negatively affects  20% but positively affects 80%, is it a good policy?

Based on absolute data, it's a good policy. It sucks to be the 20% but that is "feeling" cos based on data and logic, it benefits the majority and that's it.

Cost of living.  If someone kpkb to him about increased cost of living for Singaporeans, he will ask is it only you being affected or many Singaporeans?

if it's only you, it's only one person and the G has to think for the rest

If it's many Singaporeans, he will say name them.  Cos anyone can say many Singaporeans to prove a point, right or wrong.  Give data or prove that many Singaporeans actually face the problem (actual survey and matched with actual salaries).

And many other examples

But I did mention to him that if going purely by logic, it will be a very cold and selfish world and his comment is that it has always been a cold and selfish world.

What do you people think?

Should discussions be made based on logic or emotions?  And of cos by extension should decisions be made based on emotions or logic?

Example.  A very ill baby with no real hope of survival.  Let's say a 1 year old not breathing for 20 minutes Liao.

Logically, call it quits based on data and prognosis

Emotionally, keep trying cos the baby is so young must do the best even if logically you know no more hope.

What will you choose?

I alws say I feel food easily inc 30-50% price over post Covid 2021 till now

https://mothership.sg/2024/08/bukit-merah-fuzhou-fishball-closed-down-rent/

Giving u all one random example
We alws say we hawker heritage
Must appreciate n save our old flavours
reno here reno there
End up rental jump fr 2k to 6k for super lkk estate

Now I think they sell 4.5-6 ish
If x3 rental , means each bowl easily 5.5-7.5
How can jobless elderly afford unless they rich elder ?

[Philipkee]

I alws say I feel food easily inc 30-50% price over post Covid 2021 till now

https://mothership.sg/2024/08/bukit-merah-fuzhou-fishball-closed-down-rent/

Giving u all one random example
We alws say we hawker heritage
Must appreciate n save our old flavours
reno here reno there
End up rental jump fr 2k to 6k for super lkk estate

Now I think they sell 4.5-6 ish
If x3 rental , means each bowl easily 5.5-7.5
How can jobless elderly afford unless they rich elder ?

Going by logic, if the price increase is not in sync with rental increase, it means previously they were earning much more.

Cos in your example, the price increase is 1.5x while rental increase is 3x

I get your point.  Just saying that if looking at data purely, it's very easy to get data to read whatever you want

[encourageSome1]

Going by logic, if the price increase is not in sync with rental increase, it means previously they were earning much more.

Cos in your example, the price increase is 1.5x while rental increase is 3x

I get your point.  Just saying that if looking at data purely, it's very easy to get data to read whatever you want

Can earn 6-10k who wants 3-6k? Ppl all hv same wants for more convenience
Less energy expended
Least cost to ownself
Other ppl we tend to care less or ignore
It's all normal
Until many many many become majority say : we cannot alr

That s why I said democracy only serve e voting majority

Who r voting majority when most ppl I see in our community r no longer who we knew fr young but are everyone from everywhere

Of course we learn fr them their good ways n their multiculturalism
But we also import lot of problems
Cannot say one sidedly say overcrowdedness is gd we want diversity and kick can away

[Suntan]

Discussions are mostly based on opinions. The other side has a lot of glasshearts who are quick to report posts that don't fit their story.

Cesspool there.

[HuatOngHeng]

Recently I had a discussion with a friend.  He is very logical and data driven while I am more of the emotional and tiagong side.

So we discussed on this topic.  And I realise it's very hard to get him to see my point of view and vice versa.  Cos he demands facts and data.

Example
If a govt policy negatively affects  20% but positively affects 80%, is it a good policy?

Based on absolute data, it's a good policy. It sucks to be the 20% but that is "feeling" cos based on data and logic, it benefits the majority and that's it.

Cost of living.  If someone kpkb to him about increased cost of living for Singaporeans, he will ask is it only you being affected or many Singaporeans?

if it's only you, it's only one person and the G has to think for the rest

If it's many Singaporeans, he will say name them.  Cos anyone can say many Singaporeans to prove a point, right or wrong.  Give data or prove that many Singaporeans actually face the problem (actual survey and matched with actual salaries).

And many other examples

But I did mention to him that if going purely by logic, it will be a very cold and selfish world and his comment is that it has always been a cold and selfish world.

What do you people think?

Should discussions be made based on logic or emotions?  And of cos by extension should decisions be made based on emotions or logic?

Example.  A very ill baby with no real hope of survival.  Let's say a 1 year old not breathing for 20 minutes Liao.

Logically, call it quits based on data and prognosis

Emotionally, keep trying cos the baby is so young must do the best even if logically you know no more hope.

What will you choose?

Too logical or too emotional/feeling based also not too good ba, wears down others very fast. My take is this, life and death/money related/political matters then better be logic based, the others bring in personal emotions is fine.
You might be the only friend of your that too logical friend, such people very hard to hang out with

[Philipkee]

Too logical or too emotional/feeling based also not too good ba, wears down others very fast. My take is this, life and death/money related/political matters then better be logic based, the others bring in personal emotions is fine.
You might be the only friend of your that too logical friend, such people very hard to hang out with

Not really cos I only have ONE such friend.  So not too bad.

But yea it's hard to discuss things with him but I still do cos it's good to hear what other people think rather than just echo chambers

[GhostZM]

Just remember, whether using logic or emotion, you can never win an argument with a woman..😜


CheerS!!!😉

[nyvrem]

With friends - emo, no logic, drunk also can

With corlicks - facts only. cb mai come give me your emo emo input at work, i not your father. i need work done.