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Do you sometimes feel 这条路走下去,还有什么意义

Started by default, Jun 09, 2024, 11:21 PM

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Quote from: chainsawman on Jun 10, 2024, 08:23 AMerection is cuming, so more goodies this year ...
until payback time next year  :spin:

pay back many many time wor
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Quote from: default on Jun 10, 2024, 10:44 AMactually why u hate them so much? i dislike them but i dont hate them.... only a few like amy and jo teo i esp hate

policies are on macro level

i think they did some good, esp for covid management, my heartfelt words

anyway i will say it here first, im a bit related to working for them, @daryl76 and @luckyapple quite a few others alr know, dont say i whitewash, but i will post here liao delete soon since we are not supposed to be neutral

but i support oppo as u all know

some things they rly did screw up incl foreigners part. what i feel they did wrong was ask us to integrate to them and also give top jobs to them. the top jobs should go to the ones more deserving and as the govt they should grow more local talents

and i feel they did help the poor and needy etc but a lot more could be done. there's a lot of loopholes for the rich and crappy outcomes, people who fall through cracks

I know of people who really benefited from pap's policies tho. It's more than just the vouchers, rebates and subsidies given (very difficult to meet the requirements to get it). I can uds why they are grateful to the pap and voted for them.
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honestly i find SXL very fake also. never interacted with her but just coz shes pretty it seems like many sway over to her, but i feel she not simple. just my 2 cents

ah tat seems to be one of those trying too hard to please... LW also seems quite fake. LHL temper not v good one fr what i know and heard. i not high level at all i nv interact with them, just how i see their mannerisms and from stories i hear

some are good like lily neo. cannot think of others...... mixed reviews for denise phua but not easy to be in charge of old people's wards

i feel people hate on sitoh yipin too much, this one i dunno liao but @daryl76 also no like him.

i feel victor lye also too much overly hated. i dont like him too but no need to pour so much hate on him. but if between him and oppo i will choose oppo for sure. only issue with him is he wayang too much

ivan lim that one is 1 helluva cb for sure.

NCM not simple i feel. got stories he v guailan compared to his brothers who are much nicer people.


actually i feel the hate on MBT is maybe too much also. i feel hor, he is the in charge of housing policies but a lot also must be given a nod by the PM at that time.

which is GCT. means GCT also agreed with his policies. and at that time i think oppo and other MPs questioned them on too much HDBs

i feel this part govt rly damn cb and screwed up. u want to import people but nv build more houses. BTO is a death pill and asset enhancement is a death pill also.

Infra not sufficient to support growing population.... if u forecast want to bring in people u need to build the infra.

this is fucked up no foresight

LHL also never rectify these.

the public transport was good then they import more people until fucked up and this is slow in renewal (they need to renew the older lines)

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Quote from: EDMW is a forum for Singaporeans to discuss various topics on Jun 10, 2024, 11:27 AMI know of people who really benefited from pap's policies tho. It's more than just the vouchers, rebates and subsidies given (very difficult to meet the requirements to get it). I can uds why they are grateful to the pap and voted for them.


i got cousins and friends who got help grassroots. some of these do it for goodies (which is not a lot) and a bit of fame. like what parking slot lah, easier to choose hdb lah, maybe got higher chance to go into pri sch got MP can help to write letters lah

but all these boh bao one and is just small perks. since i not as 伟大 as them nor clamour for fame, perks i cannot say all of them are bad

but we cannot discount some are really out to help. just like social workers, i interacted with many. some join just for money

some really got passion

some got passion then after that got jaded. it's quite sad and taxing. tbh if u are a dr/nurse/social worker and u put emotions into every case

u will be very very very mentally and physically drained.

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Quote from: default on Jun 09, 2024, 11:21 PMRly cant see light at end of tunnel, only will get worse

Continuing is just preventing regression  for time being and status quo and delaying the inevitable

Many times.  :frown:  :frown:  :frown:

But at least got a stable job although not high pay and currently doesn't seem to have much progression.  :frown: Still better than being jobless tho.

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Quote from: denpahenkan on Jun 10, 2024, 11:32 AMMany times.  :frown:  :frown:  :frown:

But at least got a stable job although not high pay and currently doesn't seem to have much progression.  :frown: Still better than being jobless tho.


Less office politics better than more politics
Got jod better than no jod
if got jod and lots of politics than better change jod  :frown:
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Quote from: EDMW is a forum for Singaporeans to discuss various topics on Jun 10, 2024, 11:27 AMI know of people who really benefited from pap's policies tho. It's more than just the vouchers, rebates and subsidies given (very difficult to meet the requirements to get it). I can uds why they are grateful to the pap and voted for them.


the subsidies and help given to PG and the very poor is really a lot.

they subsidise medical fees till u basically pay little to none. my mum's bill came to 400k+ when in ICU for 3 mths

all paid for by various help. ended up the bill i think less than 10k, cant rem

i mean for sure they inflated like mad - this part i think very cb also

but if let's say the actual bill is more like half, 200k+........ the govt also helped a lot to cut to very little. of course we got insurance (i think dunno which plan B that is paid by medisave from my dad), and part of it paid by my dad's medisave and my aunt volunteered. i also got medisave....... end up i think nv deduct from my aunt's medisave

i mean if it were much longer then i dunno liao.

but some policies still shit although they try to help. my dad in nursing home each mth around 1k (if i add up my visits, bringing food and bringing him to checkups, probably 1.5k or at least 1.2k)

but their policy is per capita less than 1.9k then can get subsidy, else i have to pay full nursing home fee of 3k+

u see the problem?

if let's say u earn 5k (which is really not bad for a single, at least ok or average). after CPF u are left with 4k.

u pay 3.5k for ur father to stay in hospital, then u jiak sai with ur $500 ah?

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Quote from: default on Jun 10, 2024, 11:37 AMthe subsidies and help given to PG and the very poor is really a lot.

they subsidise medical fees till u basically pay little to none. my mum's bill came to 400k+ when in ICU for 3 mths

all paid for by various help. ended up the bill i think less than 10k, cant rem

i mean for sure they inflated like mad - this part i think very cb also

but if let's say the actual bill is more like half, 200k+........ the govt also helped a lot to cut to very little

i mean if it were much longer then i dunno liao.

but some policies still shit although they try to help. my dad in nursing home each mth around 1k (if i add up my visits, bringing food and bringing him to checkups, probably 1.5k or at least 1.2k)

but their policy is per capita less than 1.9k then can get subsidy, else i have to pay full nursing home fee of 3k+

u see the problem?

if let's say u earn 5k (which is really not bad for a single, at least ok or average). after CPF u are left with 4k.

u pay 3.5k for ur father to stay in hospital, then u jiak sai with ur $500 ah?
Yah, which is why it's not easy to meet the requirements. Also ,There are people who fall through the cracks and don't meet the requirements because other household family member got a higher salary which pulls up the household income per capita. The govt expects the middle income household member to foot the bill for those who are not well to do in the family. This together with poor family relationships complicate matters.

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Quote from: EDMW is a forum for Singaporeans to discuss various topics on Jun 10, 2024, 11:43 AMYah, which is why it's not easy to meet the requirements. Also ,There are people who fall through the cracks and don't meet the requirements because other household family member got a higher salary which pulls up the household income per capita. The govt expects the middle income household member to foot the bill for those who are not well to do in the family. This together with poor family relationships complicate matters.


My tua pek tua mmm live near me. My dad's elder bro and wife.

Their kids all live condo and landed and big car and they live lavish lives. But coz they live in 3 room they get the PG handouts every 3 mths...

The 720 every 3 mths and many other help la.

But this one how to say... cannot discriminate against them also depending on how u see it.

Their kids eh kan i beh kan... so sometimes we need to recalibrate and think also

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I do feel they need to tax and stop foreigners esp msians from leeching on us more

chainsawman

2x PRs can buy HDB.
Remember last time only citizens, now so relax.

PR can work here for many years, then cash out.

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The proposed owners can either be a Singapore Citizen (SC) or a Singapore Permanent Resident (SPR), with another owner or occupier who is an SC or SPR.

If all the proposed owners are SPRs, they and the essential occupiers must have held permanent residency for at least 3 years.
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https://www.hdb.gov.sg/residential/living-in-an-hdb-flat/changing-owners-occupiers/change-in-ownership/change-in-flat-ownership/eligibility
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Quote from: chainsawman on Jun 10, 2024, 11:57 AM2x PRs can buy HDB.
Remember last time only citizens, now so relax.

PR can work here for many years, then cash out.

"
The proposed owners can either be a Singapore Citizen (SC) or a Singapore Permanent Resident (SPR), with another owner or occupier who is an SC or SPR.

If all the proposed owners are SPRs, they and the essential occupiers must have held permanent residency for at least 3 years.
"

https://www.hdb.gov.sg/residential/living-in-an-hdb-flat/changing-owners-occupiers/change-in-ownership/change-in-flat-ownership/eligibility

this one really damn cheebye, i want this policy to be cut and destroyed.

u know how many msians milk and leech on this and want to sell and go back or continue to use loopholes to rent and go back?

this policy i totally dont support, esp in view of lack of housing for citizens who need it.

i feel if 1 sinkie + 1 msian PR, should allow. but less grants and also more things to stop them from profiteering.

if 2 PRs, must further tax and clamp down using policies or close altogether. this shit is killing our markets for the younger and less wealthy singaporeans

msians are rly the #1 leechers. i can tell u, not indians not anyone but msians. no doubt we still need them but we cannot let them freely do as they please

in this aspect from long ago i already dislike them more than indians pinoys or PRCs tbh

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Quote from: default on Jun 10, 2024, 12:09 PMthis one really damn cheebye, i want this policy to be cut and destroyed.

u know how many msians milk and leech on this and want to sell and go back or continue to use loopholes to rent and go back?

this policy i totally dont support, esp in view of lack of housing for citizens who need it.

i feel if 1 sinkie + 1 msian PR, should allow. but less grants and also more things to stop them from profiteering.

if 2 PRs, must further tax and clamp down using policies or close altogether. this shit is killing our markets for the younger and less wealthy singaporeans

msians are rly the #1 leechers. i can tell u, not indians not anyone but msians. no doubt we still need them but we cannot let them freely do as they please

in this aspect from long ago i already dislike them more than indians pinoys or PRCs tbh

This is the real FT issue, way before tiong or ceca or pinoy. They are the reason I left my previous jobs.
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I think if PRs want to buy, they should pay additional maybe 10-20% more

and only allow to sell back to HDB at prevailing price or their buying price (whichever lower)

once u have this policy in place, IMMEDIATELY we will get enough housing and they can no longer profit and prices will come down

and have to catch those renting out but not living here

because they can no longer make a profit from this, unless at least 1 spouse is singaporean. but also if only 1 is Singaporean, they should get less/no grants (this part im not sure) and also made to pay more and can only sell back to HDB

in this case, unless both the PRs turn to Singaporeans (which means they dedicate their lives to SG), they can not profit from this

I may raise this to MND
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Quote from: EDMW is a forum for Singaporeans to discuss various topics on Jun 10, 2024, 12:11 PMThis is the real FT issue, way before tiong or ceca or pinoy. They are always the reason I left my previous jobs in a way or another.

but PAP dont want to say this

and many dumb idiot EDMWers keep on hating PRCs and some indians for nothing. some of these people really see SG as their new homes u know? I am ok with such people and real talents.

Msians 100% intend to leech and make money from HDB and go back. this one i can tell u....... cannot say 100%, but at least 70% or more think this way through my interactions with them

if u are nice and intend to contribute and be here, i welcome u esp if u are a talent

if not, gtfo if u just want to make ur dough then retire in peace and continue to milk sg


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