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Title: I messed up some things again...
Post by: 老曾记 on Feb 15, 2025, 10:25 PM
Hais...
I have a friend in need of a job. I just nice have contact. So contacted the manager and she needed staff.

My friend previous basic in govt was $5.5k exclude guaranteed bonuses and aws

My friend says she will lower her basic salary by $500 to $5k to try get this job. I told her private institution never give bonuses like govt. I told her try $6k and put (negotiable).

now they mention they might not consider her cos she too experienced (30yrs working exp) and out of their budget. She now says if she had out $5k maybe it would have been easier...

My fault...

Last time one fren applied for my job. I didnt advise her to lower, she didn't get it.

Now this fren I advise to increase her asking pay. She probably can't get it.

I think in some ways I fail
Title: Re: I messed up some things again...
Post by: Imboredtodeath on Feb 15, 2025, 10:33 PM
u can talk to the manager directly?

anyway why she wants to leave govt? or left already?
Title: Re: I messed up some things again...
Post by: semen blow snow on Feb 15, 2025, 10:33 PM
Quote from: 老曾记 on Feb 15, 2025, 10:25 PMHais...
I have a friend in need of a job. I just nice have contact. So contacted the manager and she needed staff.

My friend previous basic in govt was $5.5k exclude guaranteed bonuses and aws

My friend says she will lower her basic salary by $500 to $5k to try get this job. I told her private institution never give bonuses like govt. I told her try $6k and put (negotiable).

now they mention they might not consider her cos she too experienced (30yrs working exp) and out of their budget. She now says if she had out $5k maybe it would have been easier...

My fault...

Last time one fren applied for my job. I didnt advise her to lower, she didn't get it.

Now this fren I advise to increase her asking pay. She probably can't get it.

I think in some ways I fail

She put negotiable right. They always give stupid reasons to justify u will not know their true reasons. Maybe they prefer ceca or just want lowball fresh grad 1.8k
Title: Re: I messed up some things again...
Post by: Imboredtodeath on Feb 15, 2025, 10:43 PM
Quote from: Magical Fingertip on Feb 15, 2025, 10:33 PMShe put negotiable right. They always give stupid reasons to justify u will not know their true reasons. Maybe they prefer ceca or just want lowball fresh grad 1.8k

ya this is true also

HR may lie and often do.

just like bosses. they will not say the real reason.

like my side they promoted this guy coz they want to keep his wife and the guy left before. he came back took 20% of my stuff and got promoted immediately after returning from leaving

but he's those type suck up and eager to please

u rem i told u i went to kan my boss over it? u think my boss will admit? it's well known my boss is a super suck up and yes sir yes sir to his boss one

truth is everybody lies. HR a lot of scumbags one
Title: Re: I messed up some things again...
Post by: semen blow snow on Feb 15, 2025, 10:48 PM
Quote from: default on Feb 15, 2025, 10:43 PMya this is true also

HR may lie and often do.

just like bosses. they will not say the real reason.

like my side they promoted this guy coz they want to keep his wife and the guy left before. he came back took 20% of my stuff and got promoted after returning from leaving

but he's those type suck up and eager to please

u rem i told u i went to kan my boss over it? u think my boss will admit? it's well known my boss is a super suck up and yes sir yes sir to his boss one

truth is everybody lies. HR a lot of scumbags one

Or the friend just to satisfy quota no suitable sinkie to hire ft
Title: Re: I messed up some things again...
Post by: Imboredtodeath on Feb 15, 2025, 10:48 PM
Quote from: Magical Fingertip on Feb 15, 2025, 10:48 PMOr the friend just to satisfy quota no suitable sinkie to hire ft

ya. i think highly likely the case. or the HR kay siao good friend with TS and dont want her to bring more people in

she probably got her own friends liao
Title: Re: I messed up some things again...
Post by: 老曾记 on Feb 15, 2025, 10:52 PM
Quote from: default on Feb 15, 2025, 10:33 PMu can talk to the manager directly?

anyway why she wants to leave govt? or left already?

Ya I can talk to the mgr directly. Anyway I just told the manager the $6 is I suggested one. She wanted $5k.

She left govt because people in govt discriminate her for her mild physical impairment. But I feel that doesn't impact her working ability. She is very hardworking and competent.

Quote from: Magical Fingertip on Feb 15, 2025, 10:33 PMShe put negotiable right. They always give stupid reasons to justify u will not know their true reasons. Maybe they prefer ceca or just want lowball fresh grad 1.8k

I asked her out negotiable, I think she did. Hais.

I know my industry, some pte will quote $3.8k to 7 years experience staff. Lowballing is common.
Title: Re: I messed up some things again...
Post by: Imboredtodeath on Feb 15, 2025, 10:56 PM
Quote from: 老曾记 on Feb 15, 2025, 10:52 PMYa I can talk to the mgr directly. Anyway I just told the manager the $6 is I suggested one. She wanted $5k.

She left govt because people in govt discriminate her for her mild physical impairment. But I feel that doesn't impact her working ability. She is very hardworking and competent.

I asked her out negotiable, I think she did. Hais.

I know my industry, some pte will quote $3.8k to 7 years experience staff. Lowballing is common.

u can try but dont lose hope if the mgr rejects
Title: Re: I messed up some things again...
Post by: 老曾记 on Feb 15, 2025, 11:03 PM
Quote from: default on Feb 15, 2025, 10:56 PMu can try but dont lose hope if the mgr rejects

Ya learnt my lesson, next time I don't big mouth suggest liao.
Title: Re: I messed up some things again...
Post by: Imboredtodeath on Feb 15, 2025, 11:21 PM
Quote from: 老曾记 on Feb 15, 2025, 11:03 PMYa learnt my lesson, next time I don't big mouth suggest liao.

bosses and HR are damn scheming one. u should know by now
Title: Re: I messed up some things again...
Post by: BuiBuiForeverAlone on Feb 15, 2025, 11:27 PM
Quote from: 老曾记 on Feb 15, 2025, 11:03 PMYa learnt my lesson, next time I don't big mouth suggest liao.

Hr taking advantage to fulfill their kpi
Title: Re: I messed up some things again...
Post by: 老曾记 on Feb 16, 2025, 07:53 AM
Quote from: default on Feb 15, 2025, 11:21 PMbosses and HR are damn scheming one. u should know by now

Quote from: No Guessing Game on Feb 15, 2025, 11:27 PMHr taking advantage to fulfill their kpi

My friend might be blaming me because manager consider her too expensive for putting $6k. Next time I don't wan to advise liao.
Title: Re: I messed up some things again...
Post by: Arctic on Feb 16, 2025, 10:24 AM
Best to MYOB.......
Title: Re: I messed up some things again...
Post by: BuiBuiForeverAlone on Feb 16, 2025, 10:43 AM
Quote from: 老曾记 on Feb 16, 2025, 07:53 AMMy friend might be blaming me because manager consider her too expensive for putting $6k. Next time I don't wan to advise liao.

You already did your best to refer to your friend to your coy. Don't worry about it. :flash:
Title: Re: I messed up some things again...
Post by: 老曾记 on Feb 16, 2025, 10:53 AM
Quote from: No Guessing Game on Feb 16, 2025, 10:43 AMYou already did your best to refer to your friend to your coy. Don't worry about it. :flash:

Not my coy... It's other coy that I know of.
Title: Re: I messed up some things again...
Post by: 老曾记 on Feb 16, 2025, 10:54 AM
Quote from: default on Feb 15, 2025, 11:21 PMbosses and HR are damn scheming one. u should know by now

In this case I meant, I should have just let her quote her $5k on her own. Suggesting to her $6k and kena subtly blamed by her is a bit digging own grave.
Title: Re: I messed up some things again...
Post by: 老曾记 on Feb 17, 2025, 07:22 PM
My friend potential job gone.
Title: Re: I messed up some things again...
Post by: jim889 on Feb 17, 2025, 07:37 PM
Quote from: 老曾记 on Feb 17, 2025, 07:22 PMMy friend potential job gone.

chiu sure she will get the jod if she put 5k?

not chiur fault rah.. mgr or hr leeject ppl can say anything..

 :flash:
Title: Re: I messed up some things again...
Post by: 老曾记 on Feb 17, 2025, 08:43 PM
Quote from: jim889 on Feb 17, 2025, 07:37 PMchiu sure she will get the jod if she put 5k?

not chiur fault rah.. mgr or hr leeject ppl can say anything..

 :flash:

They rejected her because of the skillsets they needed and she don't have. And the budget.

My friend sure blame me for the budget. Skillsets can be trained.

Hais.
Title: Re: I messed up some things again...
Post by: Imboredtodeath on Feb 17, 2025, 09:47 PM
ya dont believe the shit they say

u believe then u kum gong. u shd tell that to ur friend. gaslighting only
Title: Re: I messed up some things again...
Post by: Imboredtodeath on Feb 17, 2025, 09:48 PM
Quote from: 老曾记 on Feb 17, 2025, 08:43 PMThey rejected her because of the skillsets they needed and she don't have. And the budget.

My friend sure blame me for the budget. Skillsets can be trained.

Hais.

why spend time training when i can hire a cheaper foreigner with the skillsets or proclaims to have the skillset?

if u ask the person then u must trust the person. but u still need to make your own judgment

it's not ur current place right? even if she gets the job also not confirm she will be happy there
Title: Re: I messed up some things again...
Post by: 老曾记 on Feb 17, 2025, 10:57 PM
Quote from: default on Feb 17, 2025, 09:48 PMwhy spend time training when i can hire a cheaper foreigner with the skillsets or proclaims to have the skillset?

if u ask the person then u must trust the person. but u still need to make your own judgment

it's not ur current place right? even if she gets the job also not confirm she will be happy there

Not my current place. Hais.
Title: Re: I messed up some things again...
Post by: jim889 on Feb 18, 2025, 04:15 AM
Quote from: 老曾记 on Feb 17, 2025, 08:43 PMThey rejected her because of the skillsets they needed and she don't have. And the budget.

My friend sure blame me for the budget. Skillsets can be trained.

Hais.

she dun have skillsets means not suitable lioa

 :s7:
Title: Re: I messed up some things again...
Post by: Aisingioro on Feb 18, 2025, 03:34 PM
TS you fucked up, no other way to say it
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