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Title: Things I as a man wished a woman knew and vice versa
Post by: Philipkee on Jan 25, 2025, 10:05 AM
Lai lai.  Say your piece here

For context I am referring to BGR, relationship between spouses and friends and colleagues

Don't say parent to child or superior to subordinate etc etc
Title: Re: Things I as a man wished a woman knew and vice versa
Post by: Philipkee on Jan 25, 2025, 10:06 AM
I start the ball rolling. If a girl says be direct, I suspect a trap  :s22:
Title: Re: Things I as a man wished a woman knew and vice versa
Post by: encourageSome1 on Jan 25, 2025, 10:15 AM
Quote from: Philipkee on Jan 25, 2025, 10:05 AMLai lai.  Say your piece here

For context I am referring to BGR, relationship between spouses and friends and colleagues

Don't say parent to child or superior to subordinate etc etc

Some men assume women alws drop hints and some women assume all men don't Tk hints
But vice versa also true : some women don't Tk any hint
Some men alws don't directly talk and enjoy dropping hints . Eg my pa ... he can drop anyth can knowing him all my life I can 80-90% guess it correctly within 3-10 sec
Title: Re: Things I as a man wished a woman knew and vice versa
Post by: encourageSome1 on Jan 25, 2025, 10:20 AM
Quote from: Philipkee on Jan 25, 2025, 10:06 AMI start the ball rolling. If a girl says be direct, I suspect a trap  :s22:

For me ... if I ask someone what is it : I mean what I say
And mostly say what I mean... but life has it that sometimes I don't hv the right vocabulary

Or
are not in right state of mind
(Eg I just had a big fight over work processes and I go talk with someone then I m not in best shape ... I m in a pissed off and whyIsEveryoneNotPuttingTheirBestFoot mode and I feel quite indignant when I see somethg has to be done n ppl just lazy or complacent not to optimise it

Or
are not in best position to say something
Eg an elder does something which is not good nor appropriate
But as a younger gen I should zip my mouth cos I m not their mom or their wifey or closest person to say something ... I felt bad but hv to let it be. Got x % of helplessness 最准确 无奈😮�💨😮�💨but I chose to let it slide n continue affecting everyone
So I m feeling shit abt myself over  this

When I m in either of the 3 modes I guess when I talk it comes out more strongly than ever because I want to get to that point that ppl can understand and will do something about it because I want to mk change
Title: Re: Things I as a man wished a woman knew and vice versa
Post by: Arctic on Jan 25, 2025, 10:26 AM
Long time no see Auntie wot!!!
Title: Re: Things I as a man wished a woman knew and vice versa
Post by: encourageSome1 on Jan 25, 2025, 10:29 AM
Quote from: Arctic on Jan 25, 2025, 10:26 AMLong time no see Auntie wot!!!

Hello didi meimei
Yesterday I got ping u all in +ve thread a
Title: Re: Things I as a man wished a woman knew and vice versa
Post by: Philipkee on Jan 25, 2025, 10:55 AM
Quote from: encourageSome1 on Jan 25, 2025, 10:15 AMSome men assume women alws drop hints and some women assume all men don't Tk hints
But vice versa also true : some women don't Tk any hint
Some men alws don't directly talk and enjoy dropping hints . Eg my pa ... he can drop anyth can knowing him all my life I can 80-90% guess it correctly within 3-10 sec

Men sometimes get the wrong hint either deliberately or not

once a woman boss told me my idea is bad so please don't present it in the meeting tomorrow.  Heck keep low profile tomorrow

Got the hint.  Took an mc the next day

My colleagues laughed at it when I returned and asked if I got the wrong hint or I deliberately one and I laughed

Title: Re: Things I as a man wished a woman knew and vice versa
Post by: Arctic on Jan 25, 2025, 11:01 AM
Men are simple creatures that's why they always have misunderstanding or misinterpret hints
If a praise come from a woman, the man will rmb it forever. May even misunderstood it as a hint
Title: Re: Things I as a man wished a woman knew and vice versa
Post by: Philipkee on Jan 25, 2025, 11:14 AM
Quote from: Arctic on Jan 25, 2025, 11:01 AMMen are simple creatures that's why they always have misunderstanding or misinterpret hints
If a praise come from a woman, the man will rmb it forever. May even misunderstood it as a hint
Goes the other way

There was this joke (at least I hope it's a joke and not based on a true story) of a man who came back from work all silent.  Refused to talk to his wife, ate dinner silently and went to sleep in stony silence

Then the woman cried to herself, thinks the man has found and other woman, starts commiserating with friends and look up the for counsellors and divorce lawyers.

For the man, it only showed one thought. Man U lost to Liverpool.  Damn.
Title: Re: Things I as a man wished a woman knew and vice versa
Post by: encourageSome1 on Jan 25, 2025, 11:14 AM
Quote from: Arctic on Jan 25, 2025, 11:01 AMMen are simple creatures that's why they always have misunderstanding or misinterpret hints
If a praise come from a woman, the man will rmb it forever. May even misunderstood it as a hint

As a lkk usu I m the simple minded one and other ppl told me i misunderstood
Title: Re: Things I as a man wished a woman knew and vice versa
Post by: encourageSome1 on Jan 25, 2025, 11:26 AM
Quote from: Philipkee on Jan 25, 2025, 11:14 AMGoes the other way

There was this joke (at least I hope it's a joke and not based on a true story) of a man who came back from work all silent.  Refused to talk to his wife, ate dinner silently and went to sleep in stony silence

Then the woman cried to herself, thinks the man has found and other woman, starts commiserating with friends and look up the for counsellors and divorce lawyers.

For the man, it only showed one thought. Man U lost to Liverpool.  Damn.

If me I d think he did shit at work or at lunch n somebody scolded him n he feeling bad over it ... give it 1/2-1 day to blow over .. just ignore na
Title: Re: Things I as a man wished a woman knew and vice versa
Post by: encourageSome1 on Jan 25, 2025, 11:28 AM
Quote from: Arctic on Jan 25, 2025, 11:01 AMMen are simple creatures that's why they always have misunderstanding or misinterpret hints
If a praise come from a woman, the man will rmb it forever. May even misunderstood it as a hint

Usu I scold or reprimand privvily and applaud or praise publicly
This shd be it
Cos everyone wants their face n wants to look good
N
 everyone wants to think they r a good human

I scold publicly when human is refuse to change or v bad n he knows n refuse to grow or try his best
Title: Re: Things I as a man wished a woman knew and vice versa
Post by: BuiBuiForeverAlone on Jan 25, 2025, 11:30 AM
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Title: Re: Things I as a man wished a woman knew and vice versa
Post by: Philipkee on Jan 25, 2025, 11:55 AM
Quote from: encourageSome1 on Jan 25, 2025, 11:28 AMUsu I scold or reprimand privvily and applaud or praise publicly
This shd be it
Cos everyone wants their face n wants to look good
N
 everyone wants to think they r a good human

I scold publicly when human is refuse to change or v bad n he knows n refuse to grow or try his best

I think you should never scold anyone unless there is some form of danger in the other person's life or your life (maybe driving recklessly).  After all, all are adults.

IMHO, scolding is a way of asserting moral superiority over another person.  Talking nicely is ok

If talk nicely and the other person still never changes or ignores, then two options.

Either learn to ignore it / accept it or if it's so big, never talk to that person again

Of cos this refer to BGR la. If your subordinate or kid or student is like that it's a different issue
Title: Re: Things I as a man wished a woman knew and vice versa
Post by: Philipkee on Jan 25, 2025, 11:57 AM
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So true 😂
Title: Re: Things I as a man wished a woman knew and vice versa
Post by: encourageSome1 on Jan 25, 2025, 12:00 PM
Quote from: Philipkee on Jan 25, 2025, 11:55 AMI think you should never scold anyone unless there is some form of danger in the other person's life or your life (maybe driving recklessly).  After all, all are adults.

IMHO, scolding is a way of asserting moral superiority over another person.  Talking nicely is ok

If talk nicely and the other person still never changes or ignores, then two options.

Either learn to ignore it / accept it or if it's so big, never talk to that person again

Of cos this refer to BGR la. If your subordinate or kid or student is like that it's a different issue

Hmm

Quote

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If talk nicely and the other person still never changes or ignores, then two options.

Either learn to ignore it / accept it or
if it's so big, never talk to that person again

Of cos this refer to BGR la

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Yea need to learn whether able to ignore &/ accept
And whether nv talk with them again 🤔🤔🤔🙇🏻�♀️
Title: Re: Things I as a man wished a woman knew and vice versa
Post by: Philipkee on Jan 25, 2025, 12:03 PM
Quote from: encourageSome1 on Jan 25, 2025, 12:00 PMHmm

Quote

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If talk nicely and the other person still never changes or ignores, then two options.

Either learn to ignore it / accept it or
if it's so big, never talk to that person again

Of cos this refer to BGR la

//// unquote
Yea need to learn whether able to ignore &/ accept
And whether nv talk with them again 🤔🤔🤔🙇🏻�♀️
Cos no one will match perfectly blah blah blah.  Trying to change a person usually won't work or it can work temporarily but there will be unhappiness.

That is why when I read of stories of girls who marry guys hoping to change them after marriage, usually it doesn't turn out well.  Here I am talking about 180 degree change la.  Some minor changes and adaption are to be expected but to expect let's say an alcoholic to become a teetotaler is a bit too much but maybe become a social drinker still can try

But of cos la, if it's dangerous like taking drugs or racing in car then different la
Title: Re: Things I as a man wished a woman knew and vice versa
Post by: encourageSome1 on Jan 25, 2025, 04:44 PM
Quote from: Philipkee on Jan 25, 2025, 12:03 PMCos no one will match perfectly blah blah blah.  Trying to change a person usually won't work or it can work temporarily but there will be unhappiness.

That is why when I read of stories of girls who marry guys hoping to change them after marriage, usually it doesn't turn out well.  Here I am talking about 180 degree change la.  Some minor changes and adaption are to be expected but to expect let's say an alcoholic to become a teetotaler is a bit too much but maybe become a social drinker still can try

But of cos la, if it's dangerous like taking drugs or racing in car then different la



Quote ////Trying to change a person usually won't work or it can work temporarily but there will be unhappiness.
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Unquote
Yea
A human only changes when he / she wants to and with the power from above
自助 天祝 人助
勉强没有好结果
Title: Re: Things I as a man wished a woman knew and vice versa
Post by: encourageSome1 on Jan 25, 2025, 04:47 PM
Quote from: Philipkee on Jan 25, 2025, 12:03 PMCos no one will match perfectly blah blah blah.  Trying to change a person usually won't work or it can work temporarily but there will be unhappiness.

That is why when I read of stories of girls who marry guys hoping to change them after marriage, usually it doesn't turn out well.  Here I am talking about 180 degree change la.  Some minor changes and adaption are to be expected but to expect let's say an alcoholic to become a teetotaler is a bit too much but maybe become a social drinker still can try

But of cos la, if it's dangerous like taking drugs or racing in car then different la

If both parties in a rs don't even want to adapt or mk the changes to learn how to accept
N compromise n change to make things work well between them
Then really best remain fren or bgr good enuf
Don't ever marry cos like that is cannot go far and can't grow tgt

I think being in a rs alws forces both to grow and mature n see from other human's paradigm n pov
This is what experience/ encounter / trial that ppl who r single will somehow be in lack of ... or need not be trained or molded on

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Some minor changes and adaption are to be expected but to expect let's say an alcoholic to become a teetotaler is a bit too much but maybe become a social drinker still can try

But of cos la, if it's dangerous like taking drugs or racing in car then different la
 //// unquote
Title: Re: Things I as a man wished a woman knew and vice versa
Post by: Philipkee on Jan 25, 2025, 05:36 PM
Quote from: encourageSome1 on Jan 25, 2025, 04:44 PMQuote ////Trying to change a person usually won't work or it can work temporarily but there will be unhappiness.
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Unquote
Yea
A human only changes when he / she wants to and with the power from above
自助 天祝 人助
勉强没有好结果

Depends.

If the change is a preference one, like eat durians or don't durians, probably cannot change

If it's a moral one, love stealing to stop stealing, then yes I agree with you
Title: Re: Things I as a man wished a woman knew and vice versa
Post by: Philipkee on Jan 25, 2025, 05:39 PM
Quote from: encourageSome1 on Jan 25, 2025, 04:47 PMIf both parties in a rs don't even want to adapt or mk the changes to learn how to accept
N compromise n change to make things work well between them
Then really best remain fren or bgr good enuf
Don't ever marry cos like that is cannot go far and can't grow tgt

I think being in a rs alws forces both to grow and mature n see from other human's paradigm n pov
This is what experience/ encounter / trial that ppl who r single will somehow be in lack of ... or need not be trained or molded on

Quote
////

Some minor changes and adaption are to be expected but to expect let's say an alcoholic to become a teetotaler is a bit too much but maybe become a social drinker still can try

But of cos la, if it's dangerous like taking drugs or racing in car then different la
 //// unquote

Someone shared that actually compromise is a bad word.

There are a few ways of winning any argument or adapting

Win - win
Win - lose
Lose - lose

Compromise is actually lose - lose.

Win - lose means someone asserted dominance

Win - win is the best but I can't remember the term for it if there was one. 

It was a talk on 7 habits of highly successful people and one of the habits is think win-win
Title: Re: Things I as a man wished a woman knew and vice versa
Post by: Kok loeng on Jan 25, 2025, 05:56 PM
Quote from: Philipkee on Jan 25, 2025, 10:05 AMLai lai.  Say your piece here

For context I am referring to BGR, relationship between spouses and friends and colleagues

Don't say parent to child or superior to subordinate etc etc

U wish u know the girl early early tell u why rub clit instead of rub the cave n hole make the girl wet faster.

Yah also she point out to u where her clit is instead of u fumbling up down left right all over the cave to find it.

Also fingering without the right technique doesn't really make the climax faster than clit rubbing.

True af
Title: Re: Things I as a man wished a woman knew and vice versa
Post by: encourageSome1 on Jan 25, 2025, 05:58 PM
Quote from: Philipkee on Jan 25, 2025, 05:39 PMSomeone shared that actually compromise is a bad word.

There are a few ways of winning any argument or adapting

Win - win
Win - lose
Lose - lose

Compromise is actually lose - lose.

Win - lose means someone asserted dominance

Win - win is the best but I can't remember the term for it if there was one. 

It was a talk on 7 habits of highly successful people and one of the habits is think win-win

In a lkk wisdom I feel compromise is win win at the same time lose lose

Win win means both can work tgt more collaboratively

Lose lose means both nv fully get wha they want as each / individually

But they do get a bit of what both wanted : common goal
Title: Re: Things I as a man wished a woman knew and vice versa
Post by: encourageSome1 on Jan 25, 2025, 06:00 PM
Quote from: Philipkee on Jan 25, 2025, 05:36 PMDepends.

If the change is a preference one, like eat durians or don't durians, probably cannot change

If it's a moral one, love stealing to stop stealing, then yes I agree with you


I think moral ones usually lesser need for argument
Most arguments between ppl r those that r toothpaste squeeze front end
Back end
Any part of toothpaste

Or how to spend 1 day leave
Or how to spend 1k from budget surplus
Those sort of no right no wrong answers but depends on who is looking at it
And usu both hv valid reasons

Then I feel it depends on how impt is something to someone
Title: Re: Things I as a man wished a woman knew and vice versa
Post by: Philipkee on Jan 25, 2025, 06:01 PM
Quote from: encourageSome1 on Jan 25, 2025, 05:58 PMIn a lkk wisdom I feel compromise is win win at the same time lose lose

Win win means both can work tgt more collaboratively

Lose lose means both nv fully get wha they want as each / individually

But they do get a bit of what both wanted : common goal


Win win- I get something you get something and conflict is resolved and everyone is happy

Lose lose - I give up something u give up something conflict is resolved but happiness might not be as high as win win

Title: Re: Things I as a man wished a woman knew and vice versa
Post by: encourageSome1 on Jan 25, 2025, 06:02 PM
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Usually I fall into inappropriate group of ppl when I asked someone for something 3-5 times and they are not done ✅ with something simple and needed ytd or 1week ago !!
Title: Re: Things I as a man wished a woman knew and vice versa
Post by: Philipkee on Jan 25, 2025, 06:07 PM
Quote from: encourageSome1 on Jan 25, 2025, 06:00 PMI think moral ones usually lesser need for argument
Most arguments between ppl r those that r toothpaste squeeze front end
Back end
Any part of toothpaste

Or how to spend 1 day leave
Or how to spend 1k from budget surplus
Those sort of no right no wrong answers but depends on who is looking at it
And usu both hv valid reasons

Then I feel it depends on how impt is something to someone

What about eating toothpaste?

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Title: Re: Things I as a man wished a woman knew and vice versa
Post by: encourageSome1 on Jan 25, 2025, 06:08 PM
Quote from: Philipkee on Jan 25, 2025, 06:07 PMWhat about eating toothpaste?

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