Poll
Question:
Is networking important when applying for high paying jobs?
Option 1: Yes
votes: 5
Option 2: No
votes: 0
What do you think?
If you say networking is important, isn't this the same as saying meritocracy is dead?
If you say networking is not important, isn't this saying paper qualifications trump everything and CECA wan sui wan sui wan wan sui?
No network = no opportunities..
Quote from: No guessing game on Jan 03, 2025, 07:41 AMNo network = no opportunities..
But if you got opportunities due to networking, isn't that cronyism based on what people say?
Definitely. With networking, foreigner gets easily referred by his friend who works for the coy as a manager or hr. Job Referral takes precedence before work exp/qualifications.
Quote from: Banned User on Jan 03, 2025, 07:57 AMDefinitely. With networking, foreigner gets easily referred by his friend who works for the coy as a manager or hr. Job Referral takes precedence before work exp/qualifications.
Not only foreigners. Locals can also get referred over as well. It's who you know also and of cos your reputation
just talk only can.. is best.. no need to know anything.
:flash:
Quote from: Philipkee on Jan 03, 2025, 07:51 AMBut if you got opportunities due to networking, isn't that cronyism based on what people say?
It is.... Cecas doing that
Quote from: No guessing game on Jan 03, 2025, 08:47 AMIt is.... Cecas doing that
network whole kampong
:flash:
Quote from: Philipkee on Jan 03, 2025, 09:14 AMSo would you network?
Go outside Network is a must. If u out of job ex colleagues introduce u to his companies etc
Quote from: Philipkee on Jan 03, 2025, 08:25 AMNot only foreigners. Locals can also get referred over as well. It's who you know also and of cos your reputation
Odds of getting referred by a fellow singapore citizen is much lower. I hate to say this, foreigners & PRs refer me to jobs more often than singapore citizens do. So what if one's reputation is good? Sinkies jelly scared the person perform better than him . So what if one's reputation is no good? Sinkies are afraid to refer.
Quote from: Banned User on Jan 03, 2025, 09:42 AMOdds of getting referred by a fellow singapore citizen is much lower. I hate to say this, foreigners & PRs refer me to jobs more often than singapore citizens do. So what if one's reputation is good? Sinkies jelly scared the person perform better than him . So what if one's reputation is no good? Sinkies are afraid to refer.
Would you refer your friend over?
I did it twice
One MIA after letter offer was offered. I had to call the HR to say job is rejected. Made me look very bad that my friend can't even tell the HR she is rejecting the job
One quit after probation and a lot of attitude problems
Now I scared liao.
definitely.
people like me who no friend no network, super 吃亏 at work no matter at what level...
Of cos
High level job vacancies usually are not published or via agency
Quote from: Shiori on Jan 03, 2025, 11:19 AMdefinitely.
people like me who no friend no network, super 吃亏 at work no matter at what level...
Go join them for lunch and be more active in groupchat and after work activities lah
Quote from: Philipkee on Jan 03, 2025, 11:16 AMWould you refer your friend over?
I did it twice
One MIA after letter offer was offered. I had to call the HR to say job is rejected. Made me look very bad that my friend can't even tell the HR she is rejecting the job
One quit after probation and a lot of attitude problems
Now I scared liao.
I have no sg friend to refer. This is why it's always a foreigner that referred moi. I feel sorry for you that you encountered sinkies who fly kites after you referred them that role to HR. Sadly sinkie pwn sinkie runs deep.
I nv actually refer fren before. At most when received internal circular of a vacancy, I will fwd the link to fren
My frens did the same for me too
I only rmb there was one time my fren and I were working part time at retail then I rejected his suggestion to rope another fren in cos that fren thou is a nice guy but he's always late haha
Quote from: Shiori on Jan 03, 2025, 11:19 AMdefinitely.
people like me who no friend no network, super 吃亏 at work no matter at what level...
negative network, negative networth
Quote from: Aisingioro on Jan 03, 2025, 04:45 PMnegative network, negative networth
Negative negative become positive?
Quote from: Arctic on Jan 03, 2025, 04:59 PMNegative negative become positive?
not in his case
Quote from: Arctic on Jan 03, 2025, 04:59 PMNegative negative become positive?
Yes
I know less criminals (negative network), I am of less use to them (negative networth) and I am poorer cos I lack the means to earn money illegally
Which is a positive
Networking just get chiu to the door of the company to meet the hirer.
Isn't high pay based on roles & responsibility? Moi can't see the link :s11:
At least now TS hv understanding one needs to hv due diligence in making recommendation :D
Quote from: Philipkee on Jan 03, 2025, 07:51 AMBut if you got opportunities due to networking, isn't that cronyism based on what people say?
If u one of or are e best candidate and u got chosen then it is not
If u not best then that is cronyism
the answer is yes.
but my level and most of us not at that level la
but depends how u consider as high posts
a lot of people use guanxi to get jobs one
Quote from: Philipkee on Jan 03, 2025, 06:01 PMYes
I know less criminals (negative network), I am of less use to them (negative networth) and I am poorer cos I lack the means to earn money illegally
Which is a positive
We totally need to go mexico and take over their drug trade.
Put sg on world map again :flash:
You see a certain mp without her husband working in pmo u think she even got chance?
Her resume nothing outstanding. Now even try to jump here and there to get anothrr source of income
Quote from: No guessing game on Jan 05, 2025, 10:33 AMYou see a certain mp without her husband working in pmo u think she even got chance?
Her resume nothing outstanding. Now even try to jump here and there to get anothrr source of income
just say tin pei ling la
yes i totally agree. her resume nothing spectacular, she also not very zai. some people resume is normal but zai and got heart for community also more deserving
if she dont have her hubby working as PPS/PS she where got chance?
Quote from: default on Jan 05, 2025, 10:37 AMjust say tin pei ling la
yes i totally agree. her resume nothing spectacular, she also not very zai. some people resume is normal but zai and got heart for community also more deserving
if she dont have her hubby working as PPS/PS she where got chance?
Then go under sure win grc. Networking produce opportunities but can only bring u so far. ability still important. She won in smc proven to have ability
Quote from: No guessing game on Jan 05, 2025, 10:46 AMThen go under sure win grc. Networking produce opportunities but can only bring u so far. ability still important. She won in smc proven to have ability
Because it was old people estate. Then at that time many people say she worked hard. Coz need to fight strong oppo.
Now i dont know.
Anyway it shows its impt to 趁热打铁.
U see her, wang lei all these.
In some ways she has what it takes to bring her to this level. But only this level nia. And its also whether the boss sees u zai or not. 伯乐与千里马
To other bosses u may be nth, may even be shit. But if ur boss likes u, even if ure shit he will also say u are diamond.
She failed to win the hearts of lhl, lw and her corporate bosses.
If she nv marry her hubby i think she mid level manager ba, unless she meets her 伯乐.
In this case her bo le is her husband who also stands to gain
She is also zai at willing to go all out to seize all her chances.
One problem with most sinkies and people in general is we dont do such things to please people and seize chances.
Of course the capability must be there first la
Quote from: default on Jan 05, 2025, 10:49 AMBecause it was old people estate. Then at that time many people say she worked hard. Coz need to fight strong oppo.
Now i dont know.
Anyway it shows its impt to 趁热打铁.
U see her, wang lei all these.
In some ways she has what it takes to bring her to this level. But only this level nia. And its also whether the boss sees u zai or not. 伯乐与千里马
To other bosses u may be nth, may even be shit. But if ur boss likes u, even if ure shit he will also say u are diamond.
She failed to win the hearts of lhl, lw and her corporate bosses.
If she nv marry her hubby i think she mid level manager ba, unless she meets her 伯乐.
In this case her bo le is her husband who also stands to gain
Aiya no need win hearts her mp pay and alternative source already gao gao enough for 9 generations. If me i lie low satisfied do my easy work if i know i not minister caliber. Minister lime light gao gao abit screw up voted out
Quote from: default on Jan 05, 2025, 10:54 AMShe is also zai at willing to go all out to seize all her chances.
One problem with most sinkies and people in general is we dont do such things to please people and seize chances.
Of course the capability must be there first la
This one is true. We tend to be more passive and wait for opportunities to come to us or we follow TYS.
My relative quit a well paying job to start his own business in the same industry. People say don't be foolish. Now he is making big bucks. The same people are now saying of cos la do business sure can earn so much.