Last time is very rare to have frens, relatives and neighbours owning a pet dog. But now I sit at neighbourhood park for 30mins can already see so many dog owners and their dogs
Quote from: Arctic on Dec 23, 2024, 05:36 PMLast time is very rare to have frens, relatives and neighbours owning a pet dog. But now I sit at neighbourhood park for 30mins can already see so many dog owners and their dogs
I nv go notice or track leh
Quote from: Arctic on Dec 23, 2024, 05:36 PMLast time is very rare to have frens, relatives and neighbours owning a pet dog. But now I sit at neighbourhood park for 30mins can already see so many dog owners and their dogs
no kids so have pets
:flash:
Quote from: default on Dec 23, 2024, 05:44 PMI nv go notice or track leh
then chiu miss out on the chiobus
:flash:
Quote from: jim889 on Dec 23, 2024, 06:15 PMthen chiu miss out on the chiobus
:flash:
I dont go parks one i hide my room avday
Quote from: default on Dec 23, 2024, 06:44 PMI dont go parks one i hide my room avday
not just any park.. ish dog park
:flash:
Quote from: Arctic on Dec 23, 2024, 05:36 PMLast time is very rare to have frens, relatives and neighbours owning a pet dog. But now I sit at neighbourhood park for 30mins can already see so many dog owners and their dogs
They are dog owner or the dog staff.?
Quote from: bsg on Dec 23, 2024, 07:19 PMThey are dog owner or the dog staff.?
What dog staff? Dog walkers something like nanny ah?
No lah, all look like owners. My neighbour next door even keep husky....weekend her children bring another husky over when they visit her. Now rules lax liao, can keep big dogs in hdb probably why more ppl keep dogs
sg is doomed cos of these pawrents
we are becoming the dubai of SEA
Go Holland V....lagi alot.
Moi only take care of stays
Dogs, cats, chameleon, doves...that come in for shelter or food :s12:
Quote from: daryl76 on Dec 23, 2024, 07:46 PMsg is doomed cos of these pawrents
we are becoming the dubai of SEA
Can't blame them too. Who in the right mind want to have children these days? Ownself feed ownself also struggling. Current SG is not conducive to have children lah
Quote from: Suntan on Dec 23, 2024, 07:57 PMGo Holland V....lagi alot.
Moi only take care of stays
Dogs, cats, chameleon, doves...that come in for shelter or food :s12:
Aiyah rich ppl area of cos lah
Quote from: Arctic on Dec 23, 2024, 05:36 PMLast time is very rare to have frens, relatives and neighbours owning a pet dog. But now I sit at neighbourhood park for 30mins can already see so many dog owners and their dogs
Okay rah, pawrents better than parents rearing their kids like pets.
Quote from: Banned User on Dec 23, 2024, 09:12 PMOkay rah, pawrents better than parents rearing their kids like pets.
If raise like pets still ok
I see nowadays ppl have children due to parents', peer and society pressure. They have 1 kid and that's it, I doubt they even know why they want to have children
养狗好过生儿女？？？
And many irresponsible owners as well. Terrible!
Quote from: Arctic on Dec 23, 2024, 09:19 PMIf raise like pets still ok
I see nowadays ppl have children due to parents', peer and society pressure. They have 1 kid and that's it, I doubt they even know why they want to have children
Raise a kid like a pet means no proper parenting. Only provide child with bare minimum. Parenting duties outsourced to maid and cher.
Dog medical costs easily 10k
Quote from: Shiori on Dec 23, 2024, 09:43 PM养狗好过生儿女？？？
Child can be raised to become a char siew.
Quote from: Banned User on Dec 24, 2024, 07:23 AMRaise a kid like a pet means no proper parenting. Only provide child with bare minimum. Parenting duties outsourced to maid and cher.
Oh hahha
But I see pets are very well taken care of. Some even living better than humans!
On the other hand, parents just throw their children to grandparents and maids. And also use hp/tablets to entertain them
Quote from: Arctic on Dec 23, 2024, 08:55 PMCan't blame them too. Who in the right mind want to have children these days? Ownself feed ownself also struggling. Current SG is not conducive to have children lah
its the mindset and priorities in life
my wife colleague marry, take bto but dun wan children and only wanna cash in after 5 yrs... cos they find having kids is a chore and a disruption to their life
Quote from: No guessing game on Dec 24, 2024, 07:27 AMDog medical costs easily 10k
Char siew also costs easily 100k
Quote from: daryl76 on Dec 24, 2024, 02:45 PMits the mindset and priorities in life
my wife colleague marry, take bto but dun wan children and only wanna cash in after 5 yrs... cos they find having kids is a chore and a disruption to their life
actually having kids is a really really big decision
first of all must ensure kid is healthy etc..... and throughout their life no issue. some got mental, some got physical issues
then if they grow up successfully u also got to hope they will repay somewhat. i mean people say dont hope but the source of income is from kids and govt liao right? even my mum got say this - as in dont need to give money, dont worry about them they will take money from govt and renting out flat, if i decide to move overseas and dont give
but still deep inside parents would hope to at least get a few hundred right? even $200 also money. $100 a bit too little liao
i heard my rich cousins gave their parents $300 every mth. but they got 3 people giving $300 each so that' close to 1k then govt still give 720 (increased to 860?) per person every 3 mths
so basically the 2 elderly will have in total about maybe 1.6k per mth? not a lot but sufficient to survive for now
unless u really got tonnes of money
any shit happen along the way will affect u
but if dont want kids, get married for what? so-called companionship, but u must ensure both sides can gel and take care of each other
some women, in fact a sizable number now just want to play when younger. then hit late 30s cannot find her perfect partner just quickly find someone whom they dont really like/love to marry to conform with societal expectations
then the guy marry her for what, if she doesnt love him and dont plan to have kids, dont plan to take care of him...
maybe she is just trying to leech. or trying to not lose out and conform to societal expectations of marriage
it's a true fact of life u cannot deny to be honest. of course there are guys marrying just to leech but i think the number is less. but if u say this fact out people everywhr esp women will be angry and blah blah say why u take us as sex tool/childbearing tool and women can make their own money blah blah
we see PAP got more or less take care of pioneer and merdeka gen
but how will this pan out say 20-30 years from now? no one knows
if u have a kid minimally will spend about 300k
Quote from: Arctic on Dec 24, 2024, 09:21 AMOh hahha
But I see pets are very well taken care of. Some even living better than humans!
On the other hand, parents just throw their children to grandparents and maids. And also use hp/tablets to entertain them
this is one thing i totally dont understand.
i like animals but if u ask me rear them like my son or daughter i think it's dumb as fuck esp if u have to spend tonnes of money on it
i dont want responsibility for something that will 100% no returns
u see it wag its tail v happy? when it grows old and sick u will need to pay tonnes of money. and when it dies u not sad?
Quote from: daryl76 on Dec 24, 2024, 02:45 PMits the mindset and priorities in life
my wife colleague marry, take bto but dun wan children and only wanna cash in after 5 yrs... cos they find having kids is a chore and a disruption to their life
Partly a matter of mindset but sg col and toxic environment really deterring ppl from having children now
Quote from: default on Dec 24, 2024, 04:06 PMthis is one thing i totally dont understand.
i like animals but if u ask me rear them like my son or daughter i think it's dumb as fuck esp if u have to spend tonnes of money on it
i dont want responsibility for something that will 100% no returns
u see it wag its tail v happy? when it grows old and sick u will need to pay tonnes of money. and when it dies u not sad?
Hahaha to certain extent it's true. They are just a liability and leechers
However, many pet owners see them as family members and love is not measurable by how much you can get back
Quote from: default on Dec 24, 2024, 04:00 PMactually having kids is a really really big decision
first of all must ensure kid is healthy etc..... and throughout their life no issue. some got mental, some got physical issues
then if they grow up successfully u also got to hope they will repay somewhat. i mean people say dont hope but the source of income is from kids and govt liao right? even my mum got say this - as in dont need to give money, dont worry about them they will take money from govt and renting out flat, if i decide to move overseas and dont give
but still deep inside parents would hope to at least get a few hundred right? even $200 also money. $100 a bit too little liao
i heard my rich cousins gave their parents $300 every mth. but they got 3 people giving $300 each so that' close to 1k then govt still give 720 (increased to 860?) per person every 3 mths
so basically the 2 elderly will have in total about maybe 1.6k per mth? not a lot but sufficient to survive for now
unless u really got tonnes of money
any shit happen along the way will affect u
but if dont want kids, get married for what? so-called companionship, but u must ensure both sides can gel and take care of each other
some women, in fact a sizable number now just want to play when younger. then hit late 30s cannot find her perfect partner just quickly find someone whom they dont really like/love to marry to conform with societal expectations
then the guy marry her for what, if she doesnt love him and dont plan to have kids, dont plan to take care of him...
maybe she is just trying to leech. or trying to not lose out and conform to societal expectations of marriage
it's a true fact of life u cannot deny to be honest. of course there are guys marrying just to leech but i think the number is less. but if u say this fact out people everywhr esp women will be angry and blah blah say why u take us as sex tool/childbearing tool and women can make their own money blah blah
Rich still give $300 only?!?!
Quote from: Arctic on Dec 24, 2024, 04:20 PMRich still give $300 only?!?!
i dont know is my aunt say one. since usually parents will blow cow how much their kids give, maybe they give even less than 300 who knows
Quote from: default on Dec 24, 2024, 06:03 PMi dont know is my aunt say one. since usually parents will blow cow how much their kids give, maybe they give even less than 300 who knows
Wah then that's even worse loh
Quote from: default on Dec 24, 2024, 04:06 PMthis is one thing i totally dont understand.
i like animals but if u ask me rear them like my son or daughter i think it's dumb as fuck esp if u have to spend tonnes of money on it
i dont want responsibility for something that will 100% no returns
u see it wag its tail v happy? when it grows old and sick u will need to pay tonnes of money. and when it dies u not sad?
Human can be char siew and disagree/argue/quarrel/fight with their parents. Dogs will mostly obey their dog owners
Quote from: default on Dec 24, 2024, 04:05 PMwe see PAP got more or less take care of pioneer and merdeka gen
but how will this pan out say 20-30 years from now? no one knows
if u have a kid minimally will spend about 300k
Having kid means parents prolly want the child as an extension of themselves rather than educating the child to lead an independent life. It's all about power dynamics. Having control over someone else. For others, it's prolly just that the kid is a byproduct of sexual intercourse.
Quote from: Arctic on Dec 24, 2024, 04:17 PMPartly a matter of mindset but sg col and toxic environment really deterring ppl from having children now
perhaps they know their own struggles and dun see why they wan their children to suffer also
for instance, we had been nagging at our kids to gtfo of this place if they have the chance
Quote from: default on Dec 24, 2024, 04:00 PMactually having kids is a really really big decision
first of all must ensure kid is healthy etc..... and throughout their life no issue. some got mental, some got physical issues
then if they grow up successfully u also got to hope they will repay somewhat. i mean people say dont hope but the source of income is from kids and govt liao right? even my mum got say this - as in dont need to give money, dont worry about them they will take money from govt and renting out flat, if i decide to move overseas and dont give
but still deep inside parents would hope to at least get a few hundred right? even $200 also money. $100 a bit too little liao
i heard my rich cousins gave their parents $300 every mth. but they got 3 people giving $300 each so that' close to 1k then govt still give 720 (increased to 860?) per person every 3 mths
so basically the 2 elderly will have in total about maybe 1.6k per mth? not a lot but sufficient to survive for now
unless u really got tonnes of money
any shit happen along the way will affect u
but if dont want kids, get married for what? so-called companionship, but u must ensure both sides can gel and take care of each other
some women, in fact a sizable number now just want to play when younger. then hit late 30s cannot find her perfect partner just quickly find someone whom they dont really like/love to marry to conform with societal expectations
then the guy marry her for what, if she doesnt love him and dont plan to have kids, dont plan to take care of him...
maybe she is just trying to leech. or trying to not lose out and conform to societal expectations of marriage
it's a true fact of life u cannot deny to be honest. of course there are guys marrying just to leech but i think the number is less. but if u say this fact out people everywhr esp women will be angry and blah blah say why u take us as sex tool/childbearing tool and women can make their own money blah blah
tbh hor, we really didnt think much of living off our kids next time
just hope they arent gonna stay with us and wan us to give them money
Quote from: daryl76 on Dec 24, 2024, 07:57 PMtbh hor, we really didnt think much of living off our kids next time
just hope they arent gonna stay with us and wan us to give them money
your wife working? u got enough savings ah?
Quote from: default on Dec 24, 2024, 08:09 PMyour wife working? u got enough savings ah?
yes my wife works
we dun have big ticket loan items
wife cpf hit limit liao
i didnt of cos
Quote from: daryl76 on Dec 24, 2024, 07:53 PMperhaps they know their own struggles and dun see why they wan their children to suffer also
for instance, we had been nagging at our kids to gtfo of this place if they have the chance
Probably since majority are so called middle class or even lower. The rich ppl I know of are also complaining, dun see them having many children too when they can well afford it and they children are more or less secured for life
Quote from: daryl76 on Dec 24, 2024, 08:12 PMyes my wife works
we dun have big ticket loan items
wife cpf hit limit liao
i didnt of cos
wah ur wife so li hai ah. hit limit in what sense? full retirement sum?
Quote from: Banned User on Dec 24, 2024, 06:48 PMHaving kid means parents prolly want the child as an extension of themselves rather than educating the child to lead an independent life. It's all about power dynamics. Having control over someone else. For others, it's prolly just that the kid is a byproduct of sexual intercourse.
I rather enjoy the process and not the product
Quote from: daryl76 on Dec 24, 2024, 07:57 PMtbh hor, we really didnt think much of living off our kids next time
just hope they arent gonna stay with us and wan us to give them money
Your time different, just like our parent's time also different
But I see my peers with children.....duno how they cope since all of them only post gd stuff on social media especially now with all the hols pics and stuff
The smart ones already save up for the children cos they know the future is tough and their children may not fare well. Mark Lee (the mediacorp guy) mentioned so many times that he bought a condo for each of his children. I know of frens who are doing the same
Quote from: Arctic on Dec 24, 2024, 09:13 PMYour time different, just like our parent's time also different
But I see my peers with children.....duno how they cope since all of them only post gd stuff on social media especially now with all the hols pics and stuff
The smart ones already save up for the children cos they know the future is tough and their children may not fare well. Mark Lee (the mediacorp guy) mentioned so many times that he bought a condo for each of his children. I know of frens who are doing the same
cannot read too much into social posts, hahahahahha
i dun give a hoot abt my friends' posts, whether its their children shower, wedding or some holidays.... cos theres a few i know who are having problems despite all the happy posts every now and then