https://x.com/CNNnews18/status/1864195550087926227
https://x.com/CNNnews18/status/1864209054475931700
https://x.com/Gss_380/status/1864363892819775495
https://x.com/CNNnews18/status/1864210948359376983
https://x.com/CNNnews18/status/1864591357526069710
And CNA, straits times, etc all no sound no news, smlj breaking news. :s8:
Quote from: Nemesis Alien on Dec 06, 2024, 04:51 AMAnd CNA, straits times, etc all no sound no news, smlj breaking news. :s8:
nvm share news here.
also
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/syrian-rebels-take-control-of-hama-from-assad-s-troops/ar-AA1vkzA0
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/politics/government/syrian-rebels-reportedly-take-control-of-parts-of-aleppo-in-shock-syrian-offensive/ar-AA1uZh6L
:flash:
A democratic country ish lidat.
Able to hv exercise of their rights & knows when their leader ish bad.
Quote from: Suntan on Dec 06, 2024, 08:56 AMA democratic country ish lidat.
Able to hv exercise of their rights & knows when their leader ish bad.
The thing is nobody still know wtf is going on, why declare martial law.
Quote from: Nemesis Alien on Dec 06, 2024, 01:20 PMThe thing is nobody still know wtf is going on, why declare martial law.
The starting of dictatorship and power hungry leader.
Martial law has no place in this modern world.
Quote from: Suntan on Dec 06, 2024, 02:14 PMThe starting of dictatorship and power hungry leader.
Martial law has no place in this modern world.
pap might do some shit like that if one day they lose power. that's why they so zao gor the generals with scholarships, ministerial jobs and well-laid career path.
even the president and mayors are there to prevent oppositions from having things their own way if they gain majority.
Quote from: Keeptrucking on Dec 06, 2024, 03:42 PMpap might do some shit like that if one day they lose power. that's why they so zao gor the generals with scholarships, ministerial jobs and well-laid career path.
even the president and mayors are there to prevent oppositions from having things their own way if they gain majority.
They don't respect the voters choice. Even their grassroots advisors are of higher rank than elected opposition MPs. I won't be surprised if they pull this off when the opposition is the majority in the future.
(https://cdn.theonlinecitizen.com/uploads/2024/12/02112103/chua-ltter1.jpg)
Quote from: Banned User on Dec 06, 2024, 04:02 PMThey don't respect the voters choice. Even their grassroots advisors are of higher rank than elected opposition MPs. I won't be surprised if they pull this off when the opposition is the majority in the future.
(https://cdn.theonlinecitizen.com/uploads/2024/12/02112103/chua-ltter1.jpg)
They r planting roots. Unfortunately sinkies r not able to see their plot and
vote more oppo to stop the power hungry and self enriching ppl to run their lives.
Reason why the smarter ones run road and come back once sinkies r no longer blind.
Quote from: Suntan on Dec 06, 2024, 02:14 PMThe starting of dictatorship and power hungry leader.
Martial law has no place in this modern world.
Got lah, there is a purpose for martial law, its to lock down the urban environment due to some crisis.
Quote from: Suntan on Dec 06, 2024, 04:18 PMThey r planting roots. Unfortunately sinkies r not able to see their plot and
vote more oppo to stop the power hungry and self enriching ppl to run their lives.
Reason why the smarter ones run road and come back once sinkies r no longer blind.
Can see also too late, already imported the majority.
https://x.com/straits_times/status/1865075619546968235
Quote from: Nemesis Alien on Dec 06, 2024, 09:56 PMGot lah, there is a purpose for martial law, its to lock down the urban environment due to some crisis.
Got police, got law & enforcers. Using martial laws only for military. Not on ordinary people with no guns.
Sinkies better wake up to dictators power hungry politicians arresting civilians & learn from S Koreans
https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/did-yoon-suk-yeol-just-commit-treason
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/east-asia/who-south-korea-president-yoon-suk-yeol-martial-law-wife-kim-keon-hee-controversy-4785751
https://x.com/STForeignDesk/status/1865454365743411406
Quote from: Nemesis Alien on Dec 06, 2024, 09:58 PMCan see also too late, already imported the majority.
I think most of the people voting PAP into power are true blue sinkies la
It's just easier to blame new citizens/ boomers etc for the votes.
Actually it could be the average young working sinkie voting for PAP
Quote from: Philipkee on Dec 08, 2024, 07:53 AMI think most of the people voting PAP into power are true blue sinkies la
It's just easier to blame new citizens/ boomers etc for the votes.
Actually it could be the average young working sinkie voting for PAP
most work in GLCs vote for them.
this means those in NTUC, fairprice, hospitals, temasek... incl non profits also
last time too much pinoys and tiongs also they win. then ceca they also win. covid also they win.
now say COL high they also sure win
i feel like voting for them this time seriously.......... see whether can drag their votes down or not
i nv once voted for them
actually yesterday i saw australia housing crisis
they say perth housing now costs 900+k
about 10 yrs income. in SG lower income, then 3 room BTO at kallang is 500k++. 4R are 1m and above. It's EXACTLY THE SAME OR WORSE THAN AUSRTALIA!
isnt it the fucking same for Singapore? only people not speaking up nia. only the so-called BTO "cheaper" but it's a lottery
the PAP rly posting fake news
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2chYfJ4cRs&t=816s
Quote from: jim889 on Dec 06, 2024, 05:17 AMnvm share news here.
also
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/syrian-rebels-take-control-of-hama-from-assad-s-troops/ar-AA1vkzA0
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/politics/government/syrian-rebels-reportedly-take-control-of-parts-of-aleppo-in-shock-syrian-offensive/ar-AA1uZh6L
:flash:
Syria Assad dictatorship fall liao :s12: :s12:
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c8j99447gj1o
Quote from: Suntan on Dec 08, 2024, 07:40 PMSyria Assad dictatorship fall liao :s12: :s12:
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c8j99447gj1o
assad run away liao
:wowow:
Quote from: jim889 on Dec 08, 2024, 08:51 PMassad run away liao
:wowow:
Maybe ran to Iran. Putin too busy to shelter him.
Quote from: Suntan on Dec 08, 2024, 08:58 PMMaybe ran to Iran. Putin too busy to shelter him.
these presidents... once got issue first to run.
- :s17: :s17: :s17:
Quote from: jim889 on Dec 08, 2024, 09:00 PMthese presidents... once got issue first to run.
- :s17: :s17: :s17:
Its not these, very few will make last stand.
Quote from: Nemesis Alien on Dec 08, 2024, 09:57 PMIts not these, very few will make last stand.
once the cuntry fall.. those presidents first one to run load
:s22: :s22:
Quote from: Philipkee on Dec 08, 2024, 07:53 AMI think most of the people voting PAP into power are true blue sinkies la
It's just easier to blame new citizens/ boomers etc for the votes.
Actually it could be the average young working sinkie voting for PAP
All my frens 9/10 voted oppo
But I excluded foreigners..ppl who r here but didn't serve ns or didn't stay more than 20-30 y
I believe foreigner population has overtaken sg locals
Quote from: eatRiceBeHappy on Dec 08, 2024, 10:46 PMAll my frens 9/10 voted oppo
But I excluded foreigners..ppl who r here but didn't serve ns or didn't stay more than 20-30 y
I believe foreigner population has overtaken sg locals
Not on paper, they pink ic. :s8:
Quote from: eatRiceBeHappy on Dec 08, 2024, 10:46 PMAll my frens 9/10 voted oppo
But I excluded foreigners..ppl who r here but didn't serve ns or didn't stay more than 20-30 y
I believe foreigner population has overtaken sg locals
Very hard to say.
It could also be the crowd you mix with. Or people could also lie.
Cos if you go by online comments, PAP should have been voted out long ago. It is of cos easy to say it must be new citizens but I kind of doubt it
If you look at the past elections vote shares of PAP even before 2000, it has roughly been the same of 60-70 plus %. I look at since 1991
I always hear excuses like Singapore wasn't so bad then, mybfd, new citizens blah blah but no one wants to say actually maybe the silent majority really support PAP
When Tharman got over 70% of the vote, people also say no la presidential election is not the same as GE
So yea, I believe it's either many of us live in an echo chamber or people just don't share who they actually vote for because imho, it is more socially acceptable to say out that I vote for Oppo than pap.
Quote from: Nemesis Alien on Dec 09, 2024, 06:25 AMNot on paper, they pink ic. :s8:
I still think it's the silent majority of true blue sinkies voting for PAP. It's just that Oppo supporters make a lot of noise
I remember hearing from someone. 1997. At Yio Chu Kang stadium. I heard like 50000 people were chanting WORKERS PARTY. There was no cooling day then. Everyone thought WP would win some seats.
End up only retained Hougang. Yes there was some controversy about the cheng san elections but don't forget during then opposition had 4 seats, everyone was screaming support for opposition, voters were all locals and guess what happened?
Don't forget 2001 (post Sept 11 so maybe got effect), 2006 (post Durai and peanuts remark and yet opposition didn't win an extra seat). Only in 2011 there was a slight change with Aljunied GRC falling to opp hand and it was nearly lost in 2015
So yea, after looking at past election results, I come to the conclusion that the reason for the PAP winning is because of the silent majority.
Obviously the new citizens may also make a difference but I doubt it's a very big difference as in a game changer. Maybe for those 48/52 cases maybe can argue even though I dunno but those where the opposition got low 40s or 30s, I doubt the new citizens made any difference. It's more of the quality of the opposition and like it or not, Singaporeans follow brand first then track record
Put a monkey under PAP (brand with no track record) and chances are the monkey will win
Quote from: Philipkee on Dec 09, 2024, 10:27 AMVery hard to say.
It could also be the crowd you mix with. Or people could also lie.
Cos if you go by online comments, PAP should have been voted out long ago. It is of cos easy to say it must be new citizens but I kind of doubt it
If you look at the past elections vote shares of PAP even before 2000, it has roughly been the same of 60-70 plus %. I look at since 1991
I always hear excuses like Singapore wasn't so bad then, mybfd, new citizens blah blah but no one wants to say actually maybe the silent majority really support PAP
When Tharman got over 70% of the vote, people also say no la presidential election is not the same as GE
So yea, I believe it's either many of us live in an echo chamber or people just don't share who they actually vote for because imho, it is more socially acceptable to say out that I vote for Oppo than pap.
Hmm 🤔 my frens usu we chit chat small group of 2-3 ppl
They free to say what they felt like and I don't insist my opinion upon others .. it s many a times in life it's ok to disagree
Than pretend about something you don't agree on
Quote from: Nemesis Alien on Dec 09, 2024, 06:25 AMNot on paper, they pink ic. :s8:
I think my neighbourhood easily 60% foreigner fr nx door .. alws only hearing their accents
Quote from: eatRiceBeHappy on Dec 09, 2024, 12:13 PMI think my neighbourhood easily 60% foreigner fr nx door .. alws only hearing their accents
For all you know, it's the maid
Encountered many times in the hospital. This old uncle lives alone with his maid as caregiver. Family was the one who presumably hired her but they don't live with him
He only speaks Hokkien. Maid only speaks Burmese. In my heart, I wonder how they even lived together since they don't even know each other's language
https://x.com/STForeignDesk/status/1866652262975631867
https://x.com/STForeignDesk/status/1866606982980829669
https://x.com/straits_times/status/1866554152119119946
Quote from: Philipkee on Dec 09, 2024, 10:50 AMI still think it's the silent majority of true blue sinkies voting for PAP. It's just that Oppo supporters make a lot of noise
I remember hearing from someone. 1997. At Yio Chu Kang stadium. I heard like 50000 people were chanting WORKERS PARTY. There was no cooling day then. Everyone thought WP would win some seats.
End up only retained Hougang. Yes there was some controversy about the cheng san elections but don't forget during then opposition had 4 seats, everyone was screaming support for opposition, voters were all locals and guess what happened?
Don't forget 2001 (post Sept 11 so maybe got effect), 2006 (post Durai and peanuts remark and yet opposition didn't win an extra seat). Only in 2011 there was a slight change with Aljunied GRC falling to opp hand and it was nearly lost in 2015
So yea, after looking at past election results, I come to the conclusion that the reason for the PAP winning is because of the silent majority.
Obviously the new citizens may also make a difference but I doubt it's a very big difference as in a game changer. Maybe for those 48/52 cases maybe can argue even though I dunno but those where the opposition got low 40s or 30s, I doubt the new citizens made any difference. It's more of the quality of the opposition and like it or not, Singaporeans follow brand first then track record
Put a monkey under PAP (brand with no track record) and chances are the monkey will win
The crowd was real as moi was there, the huge number of votes for heavy weights JBJ, Francis Seow, Tang Liang Hong ...before blackout was real...... Saw police trying to bring Tang just like the military trying to arrest the MPs in Korea. Many got stunned. The next day report by States time so little on the crowd but made the Police arrest big big. Sinkies r cowered. Forget about chiu rights and freedom.
Have chiu heard of the momentarily blackout and new ballot boxes? There chiu hv it. Go google Cheng San.
i just hope that if pap ever loses their majority and declares martial law (by cooking up some story about rigged ballots or what not), we will be united enough to stand up to them just like the Koreans.
pap losing majority won't happen in the next two GEs I don't think so. but it will be uncertain after that because of the younger population and foreigners (who might just switch their votes).
Bui kim never take advantage?
Quote from: Suntan on Dec 11, 2024, 12:11 PMThe crowd was real as moi was there, the huge number of votes for heavy weights JBJ, Francis Seow, Tang Liang Hong ...before blackout was real...... Saw police trying to bring Tang just like the military trying to arrest the MPs in Korea. Many got stunned. The next day report by States time so little on the crowd but made the Police arrest big big. Sinkies r cowered. Forget about chiu rights and freedom.
Have chiu heard of the momentarily blackout and new ballot boxes? There chiu hv it. Go google Cheng San.
Cheng San case I still xdd but I read about it. Damn classic.
Play with words sia... In, around, near whatever lah hahah. Can't win them wan
Quote from: Arctic on Dec 11, 2024, 05:24 PMCheng San case I still xdd but I read about it. Damn classic.
Play with words sia... In, around, near whatever lah hahah. Can't win them wan
Hope the XDD grows up & ish political savvy :s12:
Quote from: Suntan on Dec 11, 2024, 12:11 PMThe crowd was real as moi was there, the huge number of votes for heavy weights JBJ, Francis Seow, Tang Liang Hong ...before blackout was real...... Saw police trying to bring Tang just like the military trying to arrest the MPs in Korea. Many got stunned. The next day report by States time so little on the crowd but made the Police arrest big big. Sinkies r cowered. Forget about chiu rights and freedom.
Have chiu heard of the momentarily blackout and new ballot boxes? There chiu hv it. Go google Cheng San.
Yes. There is the story of the boxes that arrive late. That is a controversy that while explained can't convince everyone cos a lot of questions still to be asked
But it still doesn't help that in that election, only LTK and CST won
It means support for the opposition is still not very strong and only if the opposition fielded an A of A team do they have a chance of winning
Quote from: Arctic on Dec 11, 2024, 05:24 PMCheng San case I still xdd but I read about it. Damn classic.
Play with words sia... In, around, near whatever lah hahah. Can't win them wan
I read about this case and I heard the arguments for both sides and yes, apparently the judgement was correct. That is why the opposition sometimes shoot themselves in the foot. But now they are smarter
Quote from: Arctic on Dec 11, 2024, 05:24 PMCheng San case I still xdd but I read about it. Damn classic.
Play with words sia... In, around, near whatever lah hahah. Can't win them wan
Do you know the opposition also does it? I was a polling agent for an Oppo party in 2011 and the candidates also came to visit us. By right they are not supposed to talk to voters and they don't but their presence is noticed by all.
Probably if LKY is there it would be bigger news than an opposition candidate but hardly more illegal. Of cos, I was a volunteer for the oppo that's why he came. If there weren't any Oppo volunteers he would probably be barred from even coming in cos what's his purpose of it?
During cheng san time, the only political party that can safely say it has volunteers 100% in all contested wards was PAP. So it was a different time then.
Quote from: Philipkee on Dec 11, 2024, 07:55 PMDo you know the opposition also does it? I was a polling agent for an Oppo party in 2011 and the candidates also came to visit us. By right they are not supposed to talk to voters and they don't but their presence is noticed by all.
Probably if LKY is there it would be bigger news than an opposition candidate but hardly more illegal. Of cos, I was a volunteer for the oppo that's why he came. If there weren't any Oppo volunteers he would probably be barred from even coming in cos what's his purpose of it?
During cheng san time, the only political party that can safely say it has volunteers 100% in all contested wards was PAP. So it was a different time then.
Olden days people didn't appreciate having voice 2 as much as us today. But all e while my pa was always saying gov no hv check n balances since I was primary school .. to him .. any monopolised thg is won't do well for long
But he was blue collar all his life n nv volunteered for anything except buy a few barang to support Oppo if he bump into them at anywhere they r campaigning
Quote from: Philipkee on Dec 11, 2024, 07:48 PMI read about this case and I heard the arguments for both sides and yes, apparently the judgement was correct. That is why the opposition sometimes shoot themselves in the foot. But now they are smarter
Not say Oppo like to shoot ownself on foot
But using rationality
All cc and rc are having ruling party s mp as their grass root advisor and consultant n head
So for non ruling party candidate to deploy e same residents .. no matter how pa or rc can claim how strongly they non partisan .. only they ownself say ownself believe la.
Blue guys can't even use the rc or the mp office In the wards they won .. even town council which is obviously another supposedly non partisan thing but a municipal / estates facility thing also can become partisan tilted that one group of human can serve ruling party
Cannot serve non ruling party.
If u really service e community, why u care who are controlling yr estate ?
By this rule of thumb I can transpolate say if ruling wants to hv statistics / research of whatever topics , they just call minister n minister ask the dept bring the stats within x hours or days.
If a Oppo guy wants the same research to suggest recommend n craft good policy, he might mostly get a "what is the purpose of ur question" from the ministries .. if the head got such attitudes, u think the worker bee hod will give non ruling parties an easier productive reply ?
If no good statistics to level up the competition between ruling vs Oppo , how can Oppo not easily shoot own foot .. when everything and anyth is what is the purpose of ur questions
Quote from: Nemesis Alien on Dec 06, 2024, 04:44 AMhttps://x.com/CNNnews18/status/1864195550087926227
Can give 5 -8 line tldr why he need to declare martial law
Then why sudden stop then why everyone wants him out ?
Quote from: Suntan on Dec 11, 2024, 12:11 PMThe crowd was real as moi was there, the huge number of votes for heavy weights JBJ, Francis Seow, Tang Liang Hong ...before blackout was real...... Saw police trying to bring Tang just like the military trying to arrest the MPs in Korea. Many got stunned. The next day report by States time so little on the crowd but made the Police arrest big big. Sinkies r cowered. Forget about chiu rights and freedom.
Have chiu heard of the momentarily blackout and new ballot boxes? There chiu hv it. Go google Cheng San.
Wow that s very villain and rulelessness 😖🫣😡🤯🤬
We no diff from msia man : blackout .. new boxes 📦
Quote from: encourageSome1 on Dec 11, 2024, 09:21 PMNot say Oppo like to shoot ownself on foot
But using rationality
All cc and rc are having ruling party s mp as their grass root advisor and consultant n head
So for non ruling party candidate to deploy e same residents .. no matter how pa or rc can claim how strongly they non partisan .. only they ownself say ownself believe la.
Blue guys can't even use the rc or the mp office In the wards they won .. even town council which is obviously another supposedly non partisan thing but a municipal / estates facility thing also can become partisan tilted that one group of human can serve ruling party
Cannot serve non ruling party.
If u really service e community, why u care who are controlling yr estate ?
By this rule of thumb I can transpolate say if ruling wants to hv statistics / research of whatever topics , they just call minister n minister ask the dept bring the stats within x hours or days.
If a Oppo guy wants the same research to suggest recommend n craft good policy, he might mostly get a "what is the purpose of ur question" from the ministries .. if the head got such attitudes, u think the worker bee hod will give non ruling parties an easier productive reply ?
If no good statistics to level up the competition between ruling vs Oppo , how can Oppo not easily shoot own foot .. when everything and anyth is what is the purpose of ur questions
Partly disagree. You are right the field is not level. But I was referring more to opposition shooting themselves in the foot in the court of law
Quote from: encourageSome1 on Dec 11, 2024, 09:21 PMIf no good statistics to level up the competition between ruling vs Oppo , how can Oppo not easily shoot own foot .. when everything and anyth is what is the purpose of ur questions
You don't need good statistics. You realise a lot of times it's the opposition (last time) that whack anyhow.
And actually a lot of stats are publicly available. You just need to know where to look for them and phrase your point correctly
If you look at Sylvia lim, she always quote news paper articles or what a minister said in parliament in her replies. Hardly "classified or secret stats".
https://youtu.be/eKITRSxLZBM?si=dv1RaiMb8MkSnUzN
I doubt the ministers will lie in parliament. They might not tell every stat out so that is when the opposition needs to grill them.
Quote from: Philipkee on Dec 11, 2024, 07:55 PMDo you know the opposition also does it? I was a polling agent for an Oppo party in 2011 and the candidates also came to visit us. By right they are not supposed to talk to voters and they don't but their presence is noticed by all.
Probably if LKY is there it would be bigger news than an opposition candidate but hardly more illegal. Of cos, I was a volunteer for the oppo that's why he came. If there weren't any Oppo volunteers he would probably be barred from even coming in cos what's his purpose of it?
During cheng san time, the only political party that can safely say it has volunteers 100% in all contested wards was PAP. So it was a different time then.
now also only PAP 100% mah. but u all derailed from topic liao
Quote from: default on Dec 11, 2024, 10:23 PMnow also only PAP 100% mah. but u all derailed from topic liao
Now not so much volunteers 100% PAP only cos now have WP and SDP. They have a lot of volunteers. Dunno about the rest. I only volunteered for these two and tan Jee say. I suspect PSP also won't have issues finding volunteers
Yes, derailed Liao 😂
Quote from: Philipkee on Dec 11, 2024, 07:42 PMYes. There is the story of the boxes that arrive late. That is a controversy that while explained can't convince everyone cos a lot of questions still to be asked
But it still doesn't help that in that election, only LTK and CST won
It means support for the opposition is still not very strong and only if the opposition fielded an A of A team do they have a chance of winning
Politics is dirty especially those in power for like ours more than 50 yrs. If chiu really believe those being reported in the States Times, chiu hv not gone to the level of the Koreans. mybfd.
Politics has always been dirty
It's people power & police doing work for the people. Can think about raiding the Presidents office.
https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/south-korea-police-chief-arrested-yoon-impeachment-looms-over-failed-martial-law-2024-12-11/
He should just step down. Still wanting to cling onto power. Likely to stop investigation on corruption of his wife.
https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20241214-south-korean-president-faces-second-impeachment-vote-as-thousands-rally
Quote from: Suntan on Dec 14, 2024, 02:26 PMHe should just step down. Still wanting to cling onto power. Likely to stop investigation on corruption of his wife.
https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20241214-south-korean-president-faces-second-impeachment-vote-as-thousands-rally
go to jail better
:flash:
Quote from: jim889 on Dec 15, 2024, 05:46 AMgo to jail better
:flash:
He won't need to unless he obstruct justice of his wife & mum. Hope he can just resign. Will of the ppl.
Quote from: jim889 on Dec 15, 2024, 05:46 AMgo to jail better
:flash:
According to news, due to constitution, if he go to jail, means he president in jail. That means he rule the country from jail.
Quote from: Nemesis Alien on Dec 15, 2024, 02:33 PMAccording to news, due to constitution, if he go to jail, means he president in jail. That means he rule the country from jail.
presiden cannot be jailed rah
:flash:
Quote from: jim889 on Dec 15, 2024, 04:11 PMpresiden cannot be jailed rah
:flash:
Depends on constitution.
Quote from: Nemesis Alien on Dec 15, 2024, 02:33 PMAccording to news, due to constitution, if he go to jail, means he president in jail. That means he rule the country from jail.
Korea democracy is awesome!
Come out of jail/reset, reset.
Quote from: Nemesis Alien on Dec 15, 2024, 07:55 PMDepends on constitution.
serving presiden cannot be jailed la..
nobuttie in their right mind will write / approve a consitution that will gib them jail sentence for being a presiden .. maciam own self pwn ownself.
ex presiden cannot be jailed if act is done as presiden in good faith..
Quote from: jim889 on Dec 16, 2024, 02:51 PMserving presiden cannot be jailed la..
nobuttie in their right mind will write / approve a consitution that will gib them jail sentence for being a presiden .. maciam own self pwn ownself.
ex presiden cannot be jailed if act is done as presiden in good faith..
Can mention plenty of south american presidents, east european presidents and middle eastern presidents that end up in jail. :s8: Not to mention some east asian presidents. :rolleyes:
Quote from: Nemesis Alien on Dec 16, 2024, 07:06 PMCan mention plenty of south american presidents, east european presidents and middle eastern presidents that end up in jail. :s8: Not to mention some east asian presidents. :rolleyes:
corruption/ human rights violation is not good faith rah of coz go jail
:flash:
Quote from: jim889 on Dec 16, 2024, 07:46 PMcorruption/ human rights violation is not good faith rah of coz go jail
:flash:
For chou
See how lich our ministers :s12:
https://www.theonlinecitizen.com/2024/12/16/tan-see-leng-and-k-shanmugam-threaten-bloomberg-with-legal-action-over-gcb-transaction-report/
Quote from: Nemesis Alien on Dec 16, 2024, 07:06 PMCan mention plenty of south american presidents, east european presidents and middle eastern presidents that end up in jail. :s8: Not to mention some east asian presidents. :rolleyes:
Sg ministers r awesome in their wealth. Got declare before & after office :s12: :s12:
https://www.theonlinecitizen.com/2024/12/16/tan-see-leng-and-k-shanmugam-threaten-bloomberg-with-legal-action-over-gcb-transaction-report/
https://x.com/straits_times/status/1869224205612445981
Quote from: Suntan on Dec 16, 2024, 07:49 PMFor chou
See how lich our ministers :s12:
https://www.theonlinecitizen.com/2024/12/16/tan-see-leng-and-k-shanmugam-threaten-bloomberg-with-legal-action-over-gcb-transaction-report/
interested to see wat they r suing about :flash:
Quote from: Nemesis Alien on Dec 18, 2024, 02:02 PMhttps://x.com/straits_times/status/1869224205612445981
I saw on the news a female reporter or MP went to confront the soldiers and was grabbing the rifle.
Can you imagine Singaporeans doing that?
Most will be too scared and just stay home diam diam suck it up. This is what decades of indoctrination and harsh control of pap have done to us.
Their bravery, unity, and loyalty to the country is very admirable.
wa this topic so hot ah...
ya I agree with the post above
Quote from: Keeptrucking on Dec 18, 2024, 02:08 PMI saw on the news a female reporter or MP went to confront the soldiers and was grabbing the rifle.
Can you imagine Singaporeans doing that?
Most will be too scared and just stay home diam diam suck it up. This is what decades of indoctrination and harsh control of pap have done to us.
Their bravery, unity, and loyalty to the country is very admirable.
(https://static.mothership.sg/1/2013/12/SCDF-running-safety-00.gif)
Quote from: Nemesis Alien on Dec 18, 2024, 03:05 PM(https://static.mothership.sg/1/2013/12/SCDF-running-safety-00.gif)
power la
:flash:
Quote from: Nemesis Alien on Dec 18, 2024, 03:05 PM(https://static.mothership.sg/1/2013/12/SCDF-running-safety-00.gif)
On the other hand, investigators got to scale wall, ours ran away....
S Korea impeached president arrested after investigators scale walls
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cg45zqz225vo