and slowly seek out the best recourse with another doctor?
in her current frenzied state she is scaring herself, her family and any doctors that wish to help. it's not helping her at all
what's happening to her? is she in in forum?
ask her see our mummy loh koon
:s12: :s12:
Quote from: xcodes on Oct 30, 2024, 05:33 AMwhat's happening to her? is she in in forum?
she keeps spamming the threads in hwz. no need to invite her here, just type what i said in her threads
Her mum also in edmw right?
Genuine case or trolling?
Quote from: Arctic on Oct 30, 2024, 11:11 AMHer mum also in edmw right?
Genuine case or trolling?
dunno......hmm. i think her case is filler dissolve liao skin loose + she no make up but well no need to type this to her, better seek professional help better
Quote from: Arctic on Oct 30, 2024, 11:11 AMHer mum also in edmw right?
Genuine case or trolling?
I believe is real case
Quote from: default on Oct 30, 2024, 11:28 AMdunno......hmm. i think her case is filler dissolve liao skin loose + she no make up but well no need to type this to her, better seek professional help better
So young and pretty dun need those extra work
The way she posts also sound smart
Now life is ruined
Duno how to help her. Maybe see her MP? Not trolling
wat ish the story?
:s11:
I saw her tt her skin really gone case. She can pull the skin of her cheeks to extraordinary length without elasticity like dough. Sibei scary. Those ppl never follow her threads keep saying she is fine she is normal just a few lines on her face 🤦�♂️
Really cham from a chiobu become like this
Quote from: Arctic on Oct 30, 2024, 11:37 AMSo young and pretty dun need those extra work
The way she posts also sound smart
Now life is ruined
Duno how to help her. Maybe see her MP? Not trolling
She tried everything under the sun liao see mp engage lawyer contact smc. None is stepping forward for her case now the doctor trying to silence her
Quote from: Nevereatrice on Oct 30, 2024, 02:53 PMI saw her tt her skin really gone case. She can pull the skin of her cheeks to extraordinary length without elasticity like dough. Sibei scary. Those ppl never follow her threads keep saying she is fine she is normal just a few lines on her face 🤦�♂️
Really cham from a chiobu become like this
Oh damn, thats terrible. I din read til that far
Quote from: Nevereatrice on Oct 30, 2024, 02:54 PMShe tried everything under the sun liao see mp engage lawyer contact smc. None is stepping forward for her case now the doctor trying to silence her
Her mp also dun want to help her? Knn!
Seems like really exhausted all means.......deadend?
Quote from: Nevereatrice on Oct 30, 2024, 02:54 PMShe tried everything under the sun liao see mp engage lawyer contact smc. None is stepping forward for her case now the doctor trying to silence her
this one considered medical negligence rah.. lawyer sure can help. only question is she have $$$ to fight or not?
contact mp no use one la.
contact smc no use one la.
this is between her and the doc. civil case. private matter.
all these is moi conclusion based on tiagongs.. if her current lawyer no use , then she should find another lawyer
Quote from: jim889 on Oct 30, 2024, 04:20 PMthis one considered medical negligence rah.. lawyer sure can help. only question is she have $$$ to fight or not?
contact mp no use one la.
contact smc no use one la.
this is between her and the doc. civil case. private matter.
all these is moi conclusion based on tiagongs.. if her current lawyer no use , then she should find another lawyer
Already engage lawyer lawyer say need wait for smc reply
Smc no reply.
Plus fighting the case court will ask a subject matter expert from the industry to stand in
Hard to win hard to prove negligence
Quote from: Nevereatrice on Oct 30, 2024, 04:30 PMAlready engage lawyer lawyer say need wait for smc reply
Smc no reply.
Plus fighting the case court will ask a subject matter expert from the industry to stand in
Hard to win hard to prove negligence
I think the loose skin can find ways to make more taut. Actually i agree with her assessment. I also saw what u mentioned but maybe u remove the post here also. Dunno if she might stumble here.
Quote from: Nevereatrice on Oct 30, 2024, 02:53 PMI saw her tt her skin really gone case. She can pull the skin of her cheeks to extraordinary length without elasticity like dough. Sibei scary. Those ppl never follow her threads keep saying she is fine she is normal just a few lines on her face 🤦�♂️
Really cham from a chiobu become like this
I didn't wanna add salt to her wound but I have to agree it's a very big change. Not normal, she cannot make the same facial expression as before too.
And it's not helpful that some people still recommend her to go do volunteer work with her current mental state.
Ownself also need help liao how to help others.
I have an idea, not sure if it works, it's quite extreme and many people will bash me for being siao lang.
I suggested to her and ya as expected it's not taken. I think it might have a hope to reverse a little bit of her suffering.
Quote from: Nevereatrice on Oct 30, 2024, 04:30 PMAlready engage lawyer lawyer say need wait for smc reply
Smc no reply.
Plus fighting the case court will ask a subject matter expert from the industry to stand in
Hard to win hard to prove negligence
smc wont leeply one lah. they protect their own.
subject matter expert from industry also hard to find , why talk against chiur peers and be pariah?
neeed to gather enuff evidence roh. but evidence all kept by the other party.
if she want to continue need alot of $$$
:frown:
Should show that thread to lsb
IAC talk nonsense "Actually is society and men allow this system. If no one cares about chiobu then no one will wanna fight to be the chioest?"
Then those gold diggers how? Also, women do judge by looks too. Must ban capitalism and blind everyone!
Quote from: oldchangkee on Oct 30, 2024, 05:21 PMI have an idea, not sure if it works, it's quite extreme and many people will bash me for being siao lang.
I suggested to her and ya as expected it's not taken. I think it might have a hope to reverse a little bit of her suffering.
wat chiur suggestion?
also she is not in sg hard to take any action / gather evidence
depend on wat cuntry she in.. she can also try start the case over the other side ... as her suffering / place of suffering is overseas not in sg
:frown:
Quote from: default on Oct 30, 2024, 05:17 PMI think the loose skin can find ways to make more taut. Actually i agree with her assessment. I also saw what u mentioned but maybe u remove the post here also. Dunno if she might stumble here.
She herself post the video in edmw ley
Quote from: jim889 on Oct 30, 2024, 05:34 PMwat chiur suggestion?
also she is not in sg hard to take any action / gather evidence
depend on wat cuntry she in.. she can also try start the case over the other side ... as her suffering / place of suffering is overseas not in sg
:frown:
Temporary dialysis, need doctor approval and to insert temporary catheter. This is extreme and a last resort in this case, in hope to flush out any remaining hyaluronidase in her blood, that's if the hyaluronidase haven't permanently settled down into her muscles. I seen case of drug overdose young patient scheduled for temporary dialysis to save life, if done early can help a lot. Now is alr 9 months into her hyaluronidase, not sure how much it can help.
Quote from: Arctic on Oct 30, 2024, 05:34 PMShould show that thread to lsb
IAC talk nonsense "Actually is society and men allow this system. If no one cares about chiobu then no one will wanna fight to be the chioest?"
Then those gold diggers how? Also, women do judge by looks too. Must ban capitalism and blind everyone!
Women don't judge by looks kpop already collapse la
Quote from: oldchangkee on Oct 30, 2024, 05:41 PMTemporary dialysis, need doctor approval and to insert temporary catheter. This is extreme and a last resort in this case, in hope to flush out any remaining hyaluronidase in her blood, that's if the hyaluronidase haven't permanently settled down into her muscles. I seen case of drug overdose young patient scheduled for temporary dialysis to save life, if done early can help a lot. Now is alr 9 months into her hyaluronidase, not sure how much it can help.
hmm.. actually can do blood donation if liddat.. :flash:
Quote from: oldchangkee on Oct 30, 2024, 05:18 PMI didn't wanna add salt to her wound but I have to agree it's a very big change. Not normal, she cannot make the same facial expression as before too.
And it's not helpful that some people still recommend her to go do volunteer work with her current mental state.
Ownself also need help liao how to help others.
Some Edmw still troll her. Just read silently laif not ignore the thread. Some ppl got triggered she never heed their advice or solutions. First time knowing a woman? She don't want solutions she only wants listening ear. If don't want to listen just ignore thread. Triggered for what
Quote from: Nevereatrice on Oct 30, 2024, 05:46 PMSome Edmw still troll her. Just read silently laif not ignore the thread. Some ppl got triggered she never heed their solutions. First time knowing a woman? She don't want solutions she only wants listening ear
will her ear drop off like peeling off the skin liddat?
:wowow:
Quote from: jim889 on Oct 30, 2024, 05:46 PMhmm.. actually can do blood donation if liddat.. :flash:
Why ? Blood donation and blood cleansing are 2 different thing lei.
Quote from: Nevereatrice on Oct 30, 2024, 05:46 PMSome Edmw still troll her. Just read silently laif not ignore the thread. Some ppl got triggered she never heed their advice or solutions. First time knowing a woman? She don't want solutions she only wants listening ear. If don't want to listen just ignore thread. Triggered for what
Ya she just need a listening ear. If I take hyaluronidase and become like that I also will 想不开
Quote from: oldchangkee on Oct 30, 2024, 05:50 PMWhy ? Blood donation and blood cleansing are 2 different thing lei.
Ya she just need a listening ear. If I take hyaluronidase and become like that I also will 想不开
blood donation is a form of cleansing.. the dirty blood leaves the body and new blood is produced to replace it.
can call it dilution also.
or look this way rike change fish tank water.. pump out 1/3 dirty water and pour in new water everything is good for the fish until next time
also hard to blarme everything on hyaluronidase, some ppl use is ok some ppl use got problem.
if it not broken then dun touch it.
:flash:
Quote from: oldchangkee on Oct 30, 2024, 05:41 PMTemporary dialysis, need doctor approval and to insert temporary catheter. This is extreme and a last resort in this case, in hope to flush out any remaining hyaluronidase in her blood, that's if the hyaluronidase haven't permanently settled down into her muscles. I seen case of drug overdose young patient scheduled for temporary dialysis to save life, if done early can help a lot. Now is alr 9 months into her hyaluronidase, not sure how much it can help.
That's what she's been trying to do get her medical files from the doctor use how many ml hyaluro see got overdose or not. But the doctor withheld her files and called the police on her say she threaten them while she's been very cooperative. to chase her out of clinic. They also block her on WhatsApp
Now try to silence her totally by sending her lawyer letter.
Lawyers don't want to take up her case unless smc reply. Only lawyers can retrieve her files
Quote from: Nevereatrice on Oct 30, 2024, 05:55 PMThat's what she's been trying to do get her medical files from the doctor use how many ml hyaluro see got overdose or not. But the doctor withheld her files and called the police on her way she threaten them, to chase her out of clinic.
Now try to silence her totally by sending her lawyer letter.
Lawyers don't want to take up her case unless smc reply. Only lawyers can retrieve her files
no court order ... no need to produce the file.
the loh koon can now destroy the file burn in fire and she can never get to see it.
dun think her chance very high now
:frown:
Quote from: jim889 on Oct 30, 2024, 05:54 PMblood donation is a form of cleansing.. the dirty blood leaves the body and new blood is produced to replace it.
can call it dilution also.
or look this way rike change fish tank water.. pump out 1/3 dirty water and pour in new water everything is good for the fish until next time
also hard to blarme everything on hyaluronidase, some ppl use is ok some ppl use got problem.
if it not broken then dun touch it.
:flash:
Then donate the hyaluronidase tainted blood to the next needy? What kind of logic is this?
Quote from: jim889 on Oct 30, 2024, 05:57 PMno court order ... no need to produce the file.
the loh koon can now destroy the file burn in fire and she can never get to see it.
dun think her chance very high now
:frown:
Patient have rights to ask for the file but the doctor is using threaten and harassment as a reason to keep her out of the vicinity
Quote from: oldchangkee on Oct 30, 2024, 06:06 PMThen donate the hyaluronidase tainted blood to the next needy? What kind of logic is this?
can do autolog and throw away.
anyway have rules for blood donation, if dun meet they wont accept.
also this is not 1 time can solve.. is have to donate over a period of time to solve
so 100% blood with problem but donate out 5% . left 95%, then next time donate again become 90%
the 5% mix with other good blood , is further diluted. will not affect others
:flash:
Quote from: Nevereatrice on Oct 30, 2024, 06:08 PMPatient have rights to ask for the file but the doctor is using threaten and harassment as a reason to keep her out of the vicinity
the file is the property of the loh koon la. :flash:
loh koon can give or choose not to give.
if loh koon choose not to give is nothing wrong, not committing a crime or anything.
:flash:
Quote from: jim889 on Oct 30, 2024, 06:17 PMthe file is the property of the loh koon la. :flash:
loh koon can give or choose not to give.
if loh koon choose not to give is nothing wrong, not committing a crime or anything.
:flash:
actually the patient has the right to request for the file.
i think she needs to calm down, fix her eczema and some health back. at the same time pursue this (get her files back, seek mediation with SMC at least)
and approach local/overseas dr, but also with risks for facelifting procedure or non-invasive type to try
if it's non-invasive, can try but the loose skin seems probably that fats and muscles were damaged, need to go thru surgical route
i think non-invasive seems like got what ultrasound or use other chemicals to make it taut, but also differs from person to person
it should minimally help
just as the hyaluronidase was meant to dissolve fillers, but i think not done properly, i read and seen before procedures that can put more baby fats on the face
for some people who kena genetic disorders like no fats on face. but for these people it's because it's in their genetics so the fats dissolve very quickly
Quote from: jim889 on Oct 30, 2024, 05:57 PMno court order ... no need to produce the file.
the loh koon can now destroy the file burn in fire and she can never get to see it.
dun think her chance very high now
:frown:
not supposed to tamper with records. but if weighing pros and cons we never know what people will do
Quote from: default on Oct 30, 2024, 06:33 PMactually the patient has the right to request for the file.
they have the right but who enforce this right?
loh koon dun give what can chiu do.
the file belongs to the loh koon or the clinic that hired the loh koon.
:flash:
Quote from: default on Oct 30, 2024, 06:37 PMnot supposed to tamper with records. but if weighing pros and cons we never know what people will do
ppl will do watever to protect themselves.
:flash:
One type of rice bring up thousands type of ppl.
Quote from: Nevereatrice on Oct 30, 2024, 08:14 PMOne type of rice bring up thousands type of ppl.
whats that fucker's nick ah?
Quote from: jim889 on Oct 30, 2024, 06:15 PMcan do autolog and throw away.
anyway have rules for blood donation, if dun meet they wont accept.
also this is not 1 time can solve.. is have to donate over a period of time to solve
so 100% blood with problem but donate out 5% . left 95%, then next time donate again become 90%
the 5% mix with other good blood , is further diluted. will not affect others
:flash:
Sorry your idea don't make sense to me.
U wanna renew blood u know new blood will still mix with old blood in the system right? How long it takes to completely change to fully new blood and how often can the person donate?
Quote from: oldchangkee on Oct 30, 2024, 08:36 PMSorry your idea don't make sense to me.
U wanna renew blood u know new blood will still mix with old blood in the system right? How long it takes to completely change to fully new blood and how often can the person donate?
:D :D :D
it is a way to release tainted blood in a huge amount.
how often can person donate they have rules i forgot maybe 4 times a year ?
:flash:
.
hmm everyone got his own views la.
just hope the silversnow stay strong and find a recourse
Read that she's not in sg now?
Anyway, got summary bo? Her saga too long
She's only in her 20s? Studying or working?
Quote from: jim889 on Oct 31, 2024, 12:32 AM:D :D :D
it is a way to release tainted blood in a huge amount.
how often can person donate they have rules i forgot maybe 4 times a year ?
:flash:
I'm sorry for my rude tone yesterday.
Quote from: oldchangkee on Oct 31, 2024, 03:21 PMI'm sorry for my rude tone yesterday.
chiu rude meh? moi dun feel it la. dun feel that way..
online forum cant see face expression so dunno who angry who not..
anyway take it easy
everyday heypi jiu hao
:flash:
Quote from: Arctic on Oct 31, 2024, 11:30 AMRead that she's not in sg now?
Anyway, got summary bo? Her saga too long
She's only in her 20s? Studying or working?
not in sg then in where?
:s11:
Quote from: Arctic on Oct 31, 2024, 11:30 AMRead that she's not in sg now?
Anyway, got summary bo? Her saga too long
She's only in her 20s? Studying or working?
Quote from: jim889 on Oct 31, 2024, 06:55 PMnot in sg then in where?
:s11:
Sinkie Teacher based overseas
Quote from: jim889 on Oct 31, 2024, 06:55 PMchiu rude meh? moi dun feel it la. dun feel that way..
online forum cant see face expression so dunno who angry who not..
anyway take it easy
everyday heypi jiu hao
:flash:
Yes I was rude. Your suggestion is valid for people who are having other types of medical issues. But her type of medical issues looks like actively eating her in a short span of time, muscles deterioration is fast I don't think the quarterly blood withdrawal will help her fast enough.
Maybe blood cleansing is a quicker alternative to remove some toxins from her, but not sure if any doctor willing to advise her if it's appropriate.
Quote from: oldchangkee on Oct 31, 2024, 07:34 PMYes I was rude. Your suggestion is valid for people who are having other types of medical issues. But her type of medical issues looks like actively eating her in a short span of time, muscles deterioration is fast I don't think the quarterly blood withdrawal will help her fast enough.
Maybe blood cleansing is a quicker alternative but not sure if any doctor can advise her if it's appropriate.
aiya.. doing something is better than doing nothing at all.
most important is to diulte the amount of poison in her body.
if one donation is 500ml, is alot about 10% of a person's total blood already.
even if she do 1 time blood donation she will feel better immediately.
if do autolog can do within 2 weeks dispose 1000ml of blood
:flash:
Quote from: Nevereatrice on Oct 31, 2024, 07:51 PMDunno
actually she should seek help immediately even if she overseas
:s16: :s16: :s16:
Quote from: jim889 on Oct 31, 2024, 08:02 PMactually she should seek help immediately even if she overseas
:s16: :s16: :s16:
Exhausted all help
Quote from: Nevereatrice on Oct 31, 2024, 08:18 PMExhausted all help
wah like this wait for dying?
:wowow:
Quote from: jim889 on Oct 31, 2024, 08:22 PMwah like this wait for dying?
:wowow:
Time heal everything
Quote from: Nevereatrice on Oct 31, 2024, 08:39 PMTime heal everything
dun think ish taim.. the poision need to be cleared
:frown:
newest member reporting here
Quote from: toolatesnow on Nov 04, 2024, 05:17 PMnewest member reporting here
welcum!!!
:flash: :flash:
huai this nick?
:s11:
Quote from: toolatesnow on Nov 04, 2024, 05:17 PMnewest member reporting here
R u the snow im thinking??
Quote from: Nevereatrice on Nov 04, 2024, 05:25 PMR u the snow im thinking??
if yes then chiu all sucess in invite her here lor
:flash: :flash:
Quote from: jim889 on Nov 04, 2024, 05:26 PMif yes then chiu all sucess in invite her here lor
:flash: :flash:
🤔
someone commented on my tt to invite me
Quote from: toolatesnow on Nov 04, 2024, 05:41 PMsomeone commented on my tt to invite me
yay!! welcum!!!
:s12: :s12: :s12:
Quote from: toolatesnow on Nov 04, 2024, 05:41 PMsomeone commented on my tt to invite me
Ya that's one avenue Never tot of that
Quote from: jim889 on Oct 30, 2024, 05:54 PMblood donation is a form of cleansing.. the dirty blood leaves the body and new blood is produced to replace it.
can call it dilution also.
or look this way rike change fish tank water.. pump out 1/3 dirty water and pour in new water everything is good for the fish until next time
also hard to blarme everything on hyaluronidase, some ppl use is ok some ppl use got problem.
if it not broken then dun touch it.
:flash:
not supposed to have problem but if the doc not au fait with the risks they might use a wrong dilution amount and frequency that potentially cause irreversible tissue and skin damage.
side effects from hyaluronidase happen more common than expected just that people dont have a proper platform to share their experience and raise awareness https://g.co/kgs/uRQcjUL
Im thinking first of all u must try to get healthy at least a bit more first. Try to gain a bit more weight and make your mind a bit, slightly more positive
Clear your mind for time being even tho u want prob to be improved or fixed. Continue to seek help from smc.
If can try those non invasive methods first. Then approach drs in sg with a healthy attitude. I know its not easy.
However, u must also be prepared for whatever advice or approach relating to law or medical means.
Then approach foreign doctors. U must take it slow altho u want fast. 欲速则不达
Imagine ure a new dr. Will u take on a hysterical case?
Nxt, even if 1 doctor provides the solution, dont jump into it. Go ask another 2 or 3 doctors.
Think of it as seeking improvement to 70% rather than you getting back 100% or even 120%
Can you do that?
As i mentioned. I saw before docu got dr in US can do fat injection. Its done for some people with genetical issues. I will try to find that docu for u.
What will be recommended most likely will be removal of the hyalase which may make short term even worse. Then coupled with non invasive treatment.
Then the fat injection and facelift afterwards.
Not a professional dont take my words for it. Just a suggestion
Likelihood is adverse reaction + not fast enough remedy and possibility inexperience then over injection. Just a conjecture from layman
Quote from: Crab.nugget.and.sotong.head.jin.ho.jiak on Oct 30, 2024, 05:41 PMTemporary dialysis, need doctor approval and to insert temporary catheter. This is extreme and a last resort in this case, in hope to flush out any remaining hyaluronidase in her blood, that's if the hyaluronidase haven't permanently settled down into her muscles. I seen case of drug overdose young patient scheduled for temporary dialysis to save life, if done early can help a lot. Now is alr 9 months into her hyaluronidase, not sure how much it can help.
hi apple?
bryan johnson is the guy who change blood to stay young but the other guy siim land already won him https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0mTJMWTAFk
The off-label use of hyaluronidase in aesthetic medicine is new and unstudied (at this stage zero peer reviewed studies). Its original application in this field was for highly emergent purposes only (reversal of occlusions to prevent necrosis). Hyaluronidase, however, is not an intelligent enzyme and indiscriminately does its intended job - breaks down hyaluronic acid, be that native or cross-linked dermal fillers. It is by nature a systemic medicine and is used as such in emergency medicine. Hyaluronidase is a spreading agent, it is also found in the venom of stingers and snakes to make surrounding tissues permeable so that venom can be absorbed and spread. It is found in processes of the ovum being penetrated by sperm and other autologous means in the body.
Hyaluronic acid, a chief component of the extracellular matrix, is found throughout various human tissues such as the skin, eyes, connective tissue, and synovium. Due to hyaluronic acid's highly anionic proprieties, it create volume and provide structural support.
(https://i.imgur.com/3tZOFwh.jpeg)
my skin change
i feel like it caused my entire body to be depleted of hyaluronic acid
my blood test is mostly normal so doctors wont agree to change blood for me i have asked. and a blood test cannot measure the whole amount of hyaluronic acid a person has in their body
Btw right. Even if u post here and esp if u post those pictures or links that are negative in nature the dr or clinic may send over lawyers cease and desist letter and tell us to comply.
If u or he brings case to court, your lawyer will more than likely tell u to remove the posts and not further spread the news.
Unfortunately that is how the law works and the landscape in singapore.
I think it would be best if you could seek mediation and compensation or other means of recourse. My pov only.
Its close to impossible to ask another local dr to testify on your behalf.
Unless SMC steps in and sides you.
In which case, please keep following up
Doctors all have their private communities such as facebook groups and whatsapp groups to share and bitch about patients.
They also sometimes bitch abt patients in staff canteens, private gatherings
Told to me by a dr
Quote from: default on Nov 04, 2024, 09:11 PMAs i mentioned. I saw before docu got dr in US can do fat injection. Its done for some people with genetical issues. I will try to find that docu for u.
What will be recommended most likely will be removal of the hyalase which may make short term even worse. Then coupled with non invasive treatment.
Then the fat injection and facelift afterwards.
Not a professional dont take my words for it. Just a suggestion
Likelihood is adverse reaction + not fast enough remedy and possibility inexperience then over injection. Just a conjecture from layman
thanks. very 感动
did you see the screenshot i posted and deleted
btw can post my face here will get sued or not?
huh doctor might sue this forum?? then never mind
it's called facial fat grafting. i cant find the docu, maybe another time.
but it may not be permanent and we dont know the extent of your condition
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zv-Stg7YpLU
@hellayayis
4 years ago
I got a fat transfer 6 months ago after hyaluronidase damage. I had 40 cc's and it was the BEST thing ever!
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Quote from: toolatesnow on Nov 04, 2024, 09:33 PMdid you see the screenshot i posted and deleted
btw can post my face here will get sued or not?
huh doctor might sue this forum?? then never mind
not sue but ask to take down
Quote from: default on Nov 04, 2024, 09:41 PM@hellayayis
4 years ago
I got a fat transfer 6 months ago after hyaluronidase damage. I had 40 cc's and it was the BEST thing ever!
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thanks for sharing
first thing i saw in the comment thread is
I don't think it's possible for someone to regain their original face.
40cc is 40ml??
this rajani is everywhere on youtube
Quote from: toolatesnow on Nov 04, 2024, 10:27 PMthanks for sharing
first thing i saw in the comment thread is I don't think it's possible for someone to regain their original face.
40cc is 40ml??
this rajani is everywhere on youtube
first of all the person is just a normal commentor and also didnt state he is a medical professional
i did tell you. you need to manage expectations. and find someone who is experienced so that he knows where to inject for even-ness
and you will need to see a few doctors to see if that is the right course of action. first of all is the removal of any hyaluronidase left and next will be treatment phases
you want to regain to 100% or even better. What if you can regain to 70% or 80%? are you ok with this?
just curious. prior to me posting these, did you know about this treatment?
anyway i didnt even find the comment you mentioned
Quote from: toolatesnow on Nov 05, 2024, 01:35 AMfat grafting? yes
but no plastic surgeon recommended that to me yet.
this was my face soon after the hyaluronidase injections
(https://i.imgur.com/KG2l1Ze.jpeg)
skin started degrading, melting, turning into mush over the months thanks to the enzyme
(https://i.imgur.com/Kuj9Qq8.png)
no one can understand my ineffable pain and regret
hence u must build up your mental and physical health first, while pursuing legal/smc recourse and other forms of treatment
i say again.
1. if can regain 70-80% u ok and stop there? the priority now is to stop any foreign substance from further ruining your health and to repair what you've lost.
2. are you ok to build up your mental and physical health and seek treatment with an open mind? no doctors will entertain a hysterical patient, esp aesthetic doctors
i can tell u i know enough doctors and seen enough cases to know. i also dealt with SMC before
and because if you keep becoming hysterical it's going to spread in their circles. i told u all the doctors know each other and it's a small community. esp pertaining to a certain specialty.
like aesthetics doctors all know each other. esp plastic surgeons
cardio all know same within community
onco all also know each other very well esp
doctors are not all nice people they talk and gossip and share info among themselves
Quote from: toolatesnow on Nov 04, 2024, 09:16 PMhi apple?
bryan johnson is the guy who change blood to stay young but the other guy siim land already won him https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0mTJMWTAFk
The off-label use of hyaluronidase in aesthetic medicine is new and unstudied (at this stage zero peer reviewed studies). Its original application in this field was for highly emergent purposes only (reversal of occlusions to prevent necrosis). Hyaluronidase, however, is not an intelligent enzyme and indiscriminately does its intended job - breaks down hyaluronic acid, be that native or cross-linked dermal fillers. It is by nature a systemic medicine and is used as such in emergency medicine. Hyaluronidase is a spreading agent, it is also found in the venom of stingers and snakes to make surrounding tissues permeable so that venom can be absorbed and spread. It is found in processes of the ovum being penetrated by sperm and other autologous means in the body.
Hyaluronic acid, a chief component of the extracellular matrix, is found throughout various human tissues such as the skin, eyes, connective tissue, and synovium. Due to hyaluronic acid's highly anionic proprieties, it create volume and provide structural support.
(https://i.imgur.com/3tZOFwh.jpeg)
my skin change
i feel like it caused my entire body to be depleted of hyaluronic acid
my blood test is mostly normal so doctors wont agree to change blood for me i have asked. and a blood test cannot measure the whole amount of hyaluronic acid a person has in their body
Hi Snow xmm. Yes it's me, I see...
Yes I only seen hyaluronidase used once in my life. A patient IV plug is not in the vein, a medicine was stuck and bumped up on the hand, the medicine was irritating to tissues in nature cannot stuck too long in tissues.
So the doctors used hyaluronidase to ease the surrounding and allow the medicine to be more permeable and disperse before it cause long term damage.
Quote from: default on Nov 05, 2024, 02:26 AMand because if you keep becoming hysterical it's going to spread in their circles. i told u all the doctors know each other and it's a small community. esp pertaining to a certain specialty.
like aesthetics doctors all know each other. esp plastic surgeons
cardio all know same within community
onco all also know each other very well esp
doctors are not all nice people they talk and gossip and share info among themselves
I can vouch for that. This is especially true for medical staff since their community is so small
I am a medic during ns and know such groups. After ord, sometimes I go see gp or dentist will bring up some saf doctor's names and no surprise, they know each other
Quote from: toolatesnow on Nov 04, 2024, 08:58 PMnot supposed to have problem but if the doc not au fait with the risks they might use a wrong dilution amount and frequency that potentially cause irreversible tissue and skin damage.
side effects from hyaluronidase happen more common than expected just that people dont have a proper platform to share their experience and raise awareness https://g.co/kgs/uRQcjUL
must avoid put any chemical in body
:frown:
Quote from: toolatesnow on Nov 04, 2024, 09:16 PMhi apple?
bryan johnson is the guy who change blood to stay young but the other guy siim land already won him https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0mTJMWTAFk
The off-label use of hyaluronidase in aesthetic medicine is new and unstudied (at this stage zero peer reviewed studies). Its original application in this field was for highly emergent purposes only (reversal of occlusions to prevent necrosis). Hyaluronidase, however, is not an intelligent enzyme and indiscriminately does its intended job - breaks down hyaluronic acid, be that native or cross-linked dermal fillers. It is by nature a systemic medicine and is used as such in emergency medicine. Hyaluronidase is a spreading agent, it is also found in the venom of stingers and snakes to make surrounding tissues permeable so that venom can be absorbed and spread. It is found in processes of the ovum being penetrated by sperm and other autologous means in the body.
Hyaluronic acid, a chief component of the extracellular matrix, is found throughout various human tissues such as the skin, eyes, connective tissue, and synovium. Due to hyaluronic acid's highly anionic proprieties, it create volume and provide structural support.
(https://i.imgur.com/3tZOFwh.jpeg)
my skin change
i feel like it caused my entire body to be depleted of hyaluronic acid
my blood test is mostly normal so doctors wont agree to change blood for me i have asked. and a blood test cannot measure the whole amount of hyaluronic acid a person has in their body
moi suggest go blood donation, and be honest in the questionaire and let them decide whether chiu can donate blood or not
:flash:
Quote from: toolatesnow on Nov 04, 2024, 09:16 PMhi apple?
bryan johnson is the guy who change blood to stay young but the other guy siim land already won him https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0mTJMWTAFk
The off-label use of hyaluronidase in aesthetic medicine is new and unstudied (at this stage zero peer reviewed studies). Its original application in this field was for highly emergent purposes only (reversal of occlusions to prevent necrosis). Hyaluronidase, however, is not an intelligent enzyme and indiscriminately does its intended job - breaks down hyaluronic acid, be that native or cross-linked dermal fillers. It is by nature a systemic medicine and is used as such in emergency medicine. Hyaluronidase is a spreading agent, it is also found in the venom of stingers and snakes to make surrounding tissues permeable so that venom can be absorbed and spread. It is found in processes of the ovum being penetrated by sperm and other autologous means in the body.
Hyaluronic acid, a chief component of the extracellular matrix, is found throughout various human tissues such as the skin, eyes, connective tissue, and synovium. Due to hyaluronic acid's highly anionic proprieties, it create volume and provide structural support.
(https://i.imgur.com/3tZOFwh.jpeg)
my skin change
i feel like it caused my entire body to be depleted of hyaluronic acid
my blood test is mostly normal so doctors wont agree to change blood for me i have asked. and a blood test cannot measure the whole amount of hyaluronic acid a person has in their body
tiagong certain person surname lee change blood to live forever too
:flash:
Quote from: jim889 on Nov 05, 2024, 02:50 PMmoi suggest go blood donation, and be honest in the questionaire and let them decide whether chiu can donate blood or not
:flash:
confirm will be can
Quote from: toolatesnow on Nov 05, 2024, 05:59 PMconfirm will be can
then mai tu liao.. can do good deed and can refresh chiur blood.
:flash:
Better research for the side effects this time
Quote from: Nevereatrice on Nov 05, 2024, 06:16 PMBetter research for the side effects this time
there is a professor of medicine doing research on this subject now
Quote from: toolatesnow on Nov 05, 2024, 06:27 PMthere is a professor of medicine doing research on this subject now
so the body need moar or need less of this acid?
:s11:
Quote from: default on Nov 04, 2024, 09:22 PMDoctors all have their private communities such as facebook groups and whatsapp groups to share and bitch about patients.
They also sometimes bitch abt patients in staff canteens, private gatherings
Told to me by a dr
explains why the plastic surgeons all cancelled my appointment unanimously that time
Quote from: toolatesnow on Nov 05, 2024, 06:40 PMexplains why the plastic surgeons all cancelled my appointment unanimously that time
since chiu notch in sg ... chiu can see oberseas loh koon better rite?
:s11:
Quote from: jim889 on Nov 05, 2024, 06:30 PMso the body need moar or need less of this acid?
:s11:
the products used in aesthetic procedures are animal derived and different from our body's naturally occurring ones. all extrogenous substances are prone to cause adverse reactions that are allergic or autoimmune
Observed side effects in these subjects, such as hair loss, volume loss, and inflammatory symptoms, emphasise the importance of understanding the possible hazards due to the cross-linking agents and the immune interactions and molecular mimicry mechanisms associated with hyaluronidase. Thorough patient history assessments, cautious administration of hyaluronidase, and close monitoring for adverse effects are crucial in managing such cases effectively.
Power la which user invite this mentally ill manic depressive siao ding dong here
Quote from: RamRanch on Nov 06, 2024, 08:41 AMPower la which user invite this mentally ill manic depressive siao ding dong here
We welcome her here. She is not mentally ill
Quote from: Crabnuggetandsotonghead on Nov 06, 2024, 08:43 AMWe welcome her here. She is not mentally ill
Win liao lor, later every thread become about her buay song the lokun aneh forum hor tak meh
Quote from: RamRanch on Nov 06, 2024, 08:45 AMWin liao lor, later every thread become about her buay song the lokun aneh forum hor tak meh
then chiu cum and post some interesting thing for us to read rah
:flash:
today i video called 2 overseas plastic surgeons. they said normal people's face shouldn't be like this and skin laxity shouldn't be like this. they said i need to find the doctor who injected me to explain exactly what he used and what he did. but the doctor who injected me shuns responsibility and blocks me and refuses to explain. normally with filler and even dissolving filler people's face doesnt become like mine
Quote from: toolatesnow on Nov 17, 2024, 06:58 PMtoday i video called 2 overseas plastic surgeons. they said normal people's face shouldn't be like this and skin laxity shouldn't be like this. they said i need to find the doctor who injected me to explain exactly what he used and what he did. but the doctor who injected me shuns responsibility and blocks me and refuses to explain. normally with filler and even dissolving filler people's face doesnt become like mine
loh koon wont tell chiu one rah..
wait he get into trouble.
have you spoken to a lawyer ?
:s11:
Need someone of authority to command him to reply. U alone can't do
Quote from: jim889 on Nov 17, 2024, 07:17 PMloh koon wont tell chiu one rah..
wait he get into trouble.
have you spoken to a lawyer ?
:s11:
Dear
Before we can consider taking your case, you need a well-known local plastic surgeon who agrees with you somewhat.
Kind regardsbut then i go for consultation at private practices they charge me consultation fee and tell my change in appearance happened due to "natural ageing".
public hospital doctor cancels the appointment after i waited 1 month for it and says "never seen anything like this before"
Quote from: toolatesnow on Nov 17, 2024, 07:43 PMDear
Before we can consider taking your case, you need a well-known local plastic surgeon who agrees with you somewhat.
Kind regards
but then i go for consultation at private practices they charge me consultation fee and tell my change in appearance happened due to "natural ageing".
public hospital doctor cancels the appointment after i waited 1 month for it and says "never seen anything like this before"
see another lawyer?
also moi think chiu need to see oberseas loh koon
local loh koon all pakat pakat.. wont see chiu one rah.. why will they talk against their own kind?
:frown:
Quote from: toolatesnow on Nov 17, 2024, 07:43 PMDear
Before we can consider taking your case, you need a well-known local plastic surgeon who agrees with you somewhat.
Kind regards
but then i go for consultation at private practices they charge me consultation fee and tell my change in appearance happened due to "natural ageing".
public hospital doctor cancels the appointment after i waited 1 month for it and says "never seen anything like this before"
so far u've seen how many ?
Quote from: toolatesnow on Nov 17, 2024, 06:58 PMtoday i video called 2 overseas plastic surgeons. they said normal people's face shouldn't be like this and skin laxity shouldn't be like this. they said i need to find the doctor who injected me to explain exactly what he used and what he did. but the doctor who injected me shuns responsibility and blocks me and refuses to explain. normally with filler and even dissolving filler people's face doesnt become like mine
SMC hasnt gotten back to you?
Quote from: default on Nov 17, 2024, 09:17 PMSMC hasnt gotten back to you?
what if i keep emailing them? will they be annoyed?
As the proceedings are on-going, we regret that we are not able to provide further details.
Thank you.
Quote from: toolatesnow on Nov 17, 2024, 09:20 PMwhat if i keep emailing them? will they be annoyed?
As the proceedings are on-going, we regret that we are not able to provide further details.
Thank you.
how long has it been since you first contacted them?
tell them in a pleading, anxious but not crazed manner that you have had advice from overseas doctors that your condition needs to be looked into immediately(did you get that advice at all?)
and you feel it's deteriorating by the day.
and this is your last avenue to seek redress for your situation and hope they try to expedite
Quote from: default on Nov 17, 2024, 09:24 PMhow long has it been since you first contacted them?
tell them in a pleading, anxious but not crazed manner that you have had advice from overseas doctors that your condition needs to be looked into immediately(did you get that advice at all?)
and you feel it's deteriorating by the day.
and this is your last avenue to seek redress for your situation and hope they try to expedite
5555越来越样衰
contacted them in may
Quote from: toolatesnow on Nov 17, 2024, 09:43 PMcontacted them in may
wow. how come can like that? u got try calling them and telling them your case number?
Quote from: default on Nov 17, 2024, 10:03 PMwow. how come can like that? u got try calling them and telling them your case number?
after a long investigation smc arranged a mediation in october with the doctor and 2 mediators which i came back to attend. but instead of explaining the result of the procedures he did which is my face becoming a disaster, the doctor kept saying he got harassed by an instagram account called iguana and kept trying to make me admit that i am iguana and he wasted 2 hours of the mediation. why would i admit to something i didnt do. then reverted back to smc
when i email smc they always reply
As the proceedings are on-going, we regret that we are not able to provide further details.
Thank you.
if u are telling the truth then it's an obvious ploy by the other party to delay.
sometimes u kept posting on hwz yet want to remain anonymous... did u talk to media outlets?
im not encouraging you to
but maybe you can ask SMC. may I know when will you reply to me? This is something critical to my well being, I need assurance that you are looking into this case and we can resolve this amicably and I can proceed to seek further treatment. otherwise I will have to seek other means of recourse if i am unable to receive a reply by XXX date
Quote from: default on Nov 17, 2024, 10:22 PMif u are telling the truth then it's an obvious ploy by the other party to delay.
sometimes u kept posting on hwz yet want to remain anonymous... did u talk to media outlets?
im not encouraging you to
but maybe you can ask SMC. may I know when will you reply to me? This is something critical to my well being, I need assurance that you are looking into this case and we can resolve this amicably and I can proceed to seek further treatment. otherwise I will have to seek other means of recourse if i am unable to receive a reply by XXX date
(https://i.imgur.com/8WothGU.jpeg)
dw to talk picture speak thousand words. this is less than 1 year diff. i rly cannot accept. but when i say "i cannot recognise myself", sg plastic surgeons and aesthetic doctors from private practice say i got "psychological problem' or this is due to "natural ageing" or i have bdd.
i dont care about my name in sg alr can a media outlet just feature me already
the condition is not as extreme as u mentioned in looks. in the pics above
im not telling u not to pursue the matter
but we as outsiders and non medical experts cannot say much
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBzuaDF8fuk&t=1s
Quote from: toolatesnow on Nov 17, 2024, 10:42 PM(https://i.imgur.com/8WothGU.jpeg)
dw to talk picture speak thousand words. this is less than 1 year diff. i rly cannot accept. but when i say "i cannot recognise myself", sg plastic surgeons and aesthetic doctors from private practice say i got "psychological problem' or this is due to "natural ageing" or i have bdd.
i dont care about my name in sg alr can a media outlet just feature me already
from outsider view , person who never see chiu b4..
moi cant see any difference.
although chiu smiling in first 2 pic rook naiser
maybe smile moar
:flash:
Quote from: default on Nov 18, 2024, 12:49 AMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBzuaDF8fuk&t=1s
@toolatesnow , yesterday my phone cannot login, so I ask Default help me post on my behalf for u to watch. But after I check out the reviews in reddit this morning, seems like this product also has its set of issues causing pustules and further fat loss.
Quote from: default on Nov 17, 2024, 10:22 PMif u are telling the truth then it's an obvious ploy by the other party to delay.
sometimes u kept posting on hwz yet want to remain anonymous... did u talk to media outlets?
im not encouraging you to
but maybe you can ask SMC. may I know when will you reply to me? This is something critical to my well being, I need assurance that you are looking into this case and we can resolve this amicably and I can proceed to seek further treatment. otherwise I will have to seek other means of recourse if i am unable to receive a reply by XXX date
Dear SMC,
I experienced severe changes in my face after procedures by and overseas doctors I have consulted warn me to not delay in seeking remedial treatment in case the condition deteriorates further. However, doctors who are open to treating me professionally require a medical record from the previous doctor who injected substances into my face that caused this change to my appearance and health before they could agree to devise a treatment plan. The procedures I did with critically altered my wellbeing. I seek some assurance that this case can be fairly looked into and able to be resolved amicably in order for me to seek redress.
Yours sincerely,
Quote from: Crabnuggetandsotonghead on Nov 18, 2024, 08:08 AM@toolatesnow , yesterday my phone cannot login, so I ask Default help me post on my behalf for u to watch. But after I check out the reviews in reddit this morning, seems like this product also has its set of issues causing pustules and further fat loss.
thanks!! first time hear of this
ye now use any product must survey the whole internet for reviews first.
after my face deflated i bought Volufiline cos i saw some reviews but it didn't work at all on me
Quote from: toolatesnow on Nov 18, 2024, 02:59 PMthanks!! first time hear of this
ye now use any product must survey the whole internet for reviews first.
after my face deflated i bought Volufiline cos i saw some reviews but it didn't work at all on me
dun use anything liao la.. try to fix original problem first.. wait moar problemo
:frown:
Quote from: Arctic on Oct 30, 2024, 05:34 PMShould show that thread to lsb
IAC talk nonsense "Actually is society and men allow this system. If no one cares about chiobu then no one will wanna fight to be the chioest?"
Then those gold diggers how? Also, women do judge by looks too. Must ban capitalism and blind everyone!
You claim that I talked nonsense just caz you don't agree with me. And you and mly 1 kind keep let me stay rent free in your mind is it?
Also no matter how nonsense you think I am, at least I reach out to her privately to show some concern. As a result, got siaolang come harassing me at my pm. But all you care is about gossip and ask people pm you to share more stories about sagas.
Quote from: toolatesnow on Nov 18, 2024, 02:56 PMDear SMC,
I experienced severe changes in my face after procedures by and overseas doctors I have consulted warn me to not delay in seeking remedial treatment in case the condition deteriorates further. However, doctors who are open to treating me professionally require a medical record from the previous doctor who injected substances into my face that caused this change to my appearance and health before they could agree to devise a treatment plan. The procedures I did with critically altered my wellbeing. I seek some assurance that this case can be fairly looked into and able to be resolved amicably in order for me to seek redress.
Yours sincerely,
sounds good and reasonable - well written too. but i would have added slightly more words related to urgency... it's a fine line between sounding crazed, vengeful or really wish they can help so can rectify or improve your condition.
but hor if i use too harsh sounding words it might turn against you again. so i think ur version is good enough, just wait for the response and keep us updated. or pm one of us if u dont want to let everyone else to know
Quote from: X on Nov 18, 2024, 11:37 PMYou claim that I talked nonsense just caz you don't agree with me. And you and mly 1 kind keep let me stay rent free in your mind is it?
Also no matter how nonsense you think I am, at least I reach out to her privately to show some concern. As a result, got siaolang come harassing me at my pm. But all you care is about gossip and ask people pm you to share more stories about sagas.
u also another one. small small thing like want to fight.
but frankly you recently turned down the job thing i also think u overthink yourself and it's a bad move. getting that job would have helped u get experience also no matter u like or not. if u stay 1-2 yrs or longer in it then jump
u didnt accept right?
i think for time being they will need to give u records, then seek doctors help probably non invasive treatment first
or remove the substance u mentioned was inside supposedly
i think it's reasonable to ask SMC every 2 weeks at the minimum. if not around 1.5 weeks. i mean u time it roughly and see what is reasonable to u and your family or friends who know about the matter
Quote from: default on Nov 18, 2024, 11:49 PMu also another one. small small thing like want to fight.
but frankly you recently turned down the job thing i also think u overthink yourself and it's a bad move. getting that job would have helped u get experience also no matter u like or not. if u stay 1-2 yrs or longer in it then jump
u didnt accept right?
Who say I didn't accept? But I continue looking for better so long haven't start both side also not confirm.
And how is it small small thing I wanna fight? Looks who's always fighting? I have nv once open thread fight w anyone. And I don't rmb ever offending u? I even tried to help u bring traction here. Is this how u shoot back people who help u?
And the moderation here needs to be improved. There are nonsense post that shld have get those post deleted or ban the user. The thread on I just turned 18.
Ppl talked shxt about me I can't shoot back?
Quote from: X on Nov 18, 2024, 11:37 PMYou claim that I talked nonsense just caz you don't agree with me. And you and mly 1 kind keep let me stay rent free in your mind is it?
Also no matter how nonsense you think I am, at least I reach out to her privately to show some concern. As a result, got siaolang come harassing me at my pm. But all you care is about gossip and ask people pm you to share more stories about sagas.
It can be anyone. I dun agree with someone of cos I deem that person to be talking rubbish. You think too much, always assume ppl are obsessing over you and stalking you lol. Pls wake up. I was casually reading in edmw and came across your comment. Goodness sake, I ever saw your pic in edmw already, I have no designs on you but I dun hate you either. I'm going after the context not the person
You pm her offer her advice so you are a saint? So I offer her advice in this thread but not in pm so I'm not a good person. Another twisted logic. I always pm ppl for gossips so what? You think men are visual animals but I can't say women are gold diggers?
Quote from: X on Nov 19, 2024, 07:17 AMWho say I didn't accept? But I continue looking for better so long haven't start both side also not confirm.
And how is it small small thing I wanna fight? Looks who's always fighting? I have nv once open thread fight w anyone. And I don't rmb ever offending u? I even tried to help u bring traction here. Is this how u shoot back people who help u?
And the moderation here needs to be improved. There are nonsense post that shld have get those post deleted or ban the user. The thread on I just turned 18.
Ppl talked shxt about me I can't shoot back?
Pls stop playing victim card lah
Hey look, I'm a saint who go ard helping ppl. Hey I din offend you and even helped you. You should be thankful and be worshipping me now
How old are you again? The world and forum dun work this way. Again, wake up.
I won't ever mention her name again haha
-edited
Quote from: X on Nov 19, 2024, 07:17 AMWho say I didn't accept? But I continue looking for better so long haven't start both side also not confirm.
And how is it small small thing I wanna fight? Looks who's always fighting? I have nv once open thread fight w anyone. And I don't rmb ever offending u? I even tried to help u bring traction here. Is this how u shoot back people who help u?
And the moderation here needs to be improved. There are nonsense post that shld have get those post deleted or ban the user. The thread on I just turned 18.
Ppl talked shxt about me I can't shoot back?
U bring people here i appreciate. But i cant criticize u?
Everytime u kena shit either here or elsewhr u will scramble all u know to help u appeal or delete or ban the whomever. U cannot expect the whole fucking world to pander to your wants or needs.
U know some of the shit, in fact most of the shit u kena, u have a big part, a major part to play. One hand cant clap. U always feel you are faultless is it?
If u are, wish u well in CS with that attitude of yours.
Ure like most/many here. When kena banned or once in a blue moon sian then come here.
Look i dont even care if this website is gone tmr.
Grow the fuck up.
This place funds are from 3 people. One of whom is turtles. We just want to offer a place to chat. If cant upkeep it liao im sure the 3 of us also wont blame.
I didnt crowdsource from here or elsewhr yet. Nor try to make this place better due to lack of funds.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIUL8fF7X_E
Quote from: toolatesnow on Nov 21, 2024, 12:20 AMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIUL8fF7X_E
dun put filler ish best
:flash:
Quote from: jim889 on Nov 21, 2024, 02:47 PMdun put filler ish best
:flash:
other people had large amount of filler, small amount of dissolver
i had small amount of filler, large amount of dissolver that's why my face got wrecked
this is so 冤种 and traumatising
Quote from: toolatesnow on Nov 21, 2024, 05:54 PMother people had large amount of filler, small amount of dissolver
i had small amount of filler, large amount of dissolver that's why my face got wrecked
this is so 冤种 and traumatising
dun put anything filler/ dissolver ish best.
dun go operation
everything natural ish best.
:frown:
(https://i.imgur.com/ajg3A7o.png)
sg dotter used 100 times the amount aforementioned
bone crushing pain on me is an understatement
Quote from: toolatesnow on Nov 21, 2024, 06:12 PM(https://i.imgur.com/ajg3A7o.png)
sg dotter used 100 times the amount aforementioned
bone crushing pain on me is an understatement
how u know is 100x?
anyway it's not wrong for you to hound smc every week, just what i feel
Quote from: default on Nov 24, 2024, 10:52 AMhow u know is 100x?
anyway it's not wrong for you to hound smc every week, just what i feel
maybe her loh koon failed maths.. mL, L, etc :frown:
Quote from: default on Nov 24, 2024, 10:52 AMhow u know is 100x?
anyway it's not wrong for you to hound smc every week, just what i feel
(https://i.imgur.com/8L4XVoJ.jpeg)
cos he showed me this then refused to provide medical record
and my face experienced severe depletion
Quote from: toolatesnow on Nov 24, 2024, 10:06 PM(https://i.imgur.com/8L4XVoJ.jpeg)
cos he showed me this then refused to provide medical record
and my face experienced severe depletion
if he gib too much info then he will ownself sexpose hiumself ma
:frown:
Quote from: default on Nov 24, 2024, 10:52 AMhow u know is 100x?
anyway it's not wrong for you to hound smc every week, just what i feel
by the time they reply
i up lorry alr