Really very sian max. Left my previous workplace due to work-related issues and also due to poor structure, now in current workplace the work is so messy, might be worse off than previous job now...
Somemore interview phase say can help sign off my CPA working experience, now end up either is cannot sign (signer never fulfill requirements to sign) or refuse to sign.
Damn pek chek.
Wanna jump also no news so far...
ya after so long u still believe lies?
Shiori Didi jia you :frown:
ask friends to pull u in?
move go Oz rah
sinkieland too toxic riao
Y u always jod got problem?
Join govt jod sua la
Quote from: mGx-Alander on Mar 15, 2024, 11:18 PMY u always jod got problem?
Join govt jod sua la
U Intro la help chiu do so many surveys liao
Quote from: Nevereatrice on Mar 15, 2024, 11:38 PMU Intro la help chiu do so many surveys liao
he sell fish one
Its not like i nv tried to refer or help him
But im not a hiring manager for his role nor any role at all
I read the last part as u want to jump off a building :eek: :spin:
CheerS!!!😉
Quote from: mGx-Alander on Mar 16, 2024, 01:20 AMIts not like i nv tried to refer or help him
But im not a hiring manager for his role nor any role at all
ya. those r more towards another field. like mix-mix.
Quote from: mGx-Alander on Mar 15, 2024, 11:18 PMY u always jod got problem?
Join govt jod sua la
govt job apply before, no news
my previous job can lun longer if not coz of their shady books
my current side now if exclude work = all ok. if include work = all hell break loose.
sometimes i feel more like disillusioned with the entire field rather than being moody with the job itself
Quote from: GhostZM on Mar 16, 2024, 02:53 AMI read the last part as u want to jump off a building :eek: :spin:
CheerS!!!😉
hahaha :s13:
Quote from: default on Mar 15, 2024, 10:09 PMya after so long u still believe lies?
i naive...stupid...kumgong...
Quote from: luckyapple on Mar 15, 2024, 10:10 PMShiori Didi jia you :frown:
thanks apple korkor
Quote from: Nevereatrice on Mar 15, 2024, 10:20 PMask friends to pull u in?
got ask before, but no interviews. usually i ownself find got higher chances.
Quote from: nyvrem on Mar 15, 2024, 10:53 PMmove go Oz rah
sinkieland too toxic riao
how abt nz
Quote from: Shiori on Mar 16, 2024, 08:33 AMi naive...stupid...kumgong...
thanks apple korkor
got ask before, but no interviews. usually i ownself find got higher chances.
how abt nz
my frens go nz when they young then later joined their agriculture industry then fr work holiday work long term as their farming additional staff then after X years became their pr
But I remb she went when she was abt 2x. They want young ppl cos of labor intensive work and young ppl tend to give longer time of gdp contributions before needing health care sv and retirement support ?
Quote from: Shiori on Mar 16, 2024, 08:25 AMgovt job apply before, no news
my previous job can lun longer if not coz of their shady books
my current side now if exclude work = all ok. if include work = all hell break loose.
sometimes i feel more like disillusioned with the entire field rather than being moody with the job itself
If u feel finance / accounting is like that , maybe try to start anew on a say free lance basis on ur main industry
And try to get trained n certified in a different field ?
My friend another one she went oz to study pharmaceutical studies xxxxx when she was late twenty/ thirty ish
Was a teacher in local sec school ... then quit to study .. then she worked as new Pharma assistant from there after graduating... so to change her path she took 4 years ish ? Relocate , read a new BSc. , took a new job in a new place where she knew nobody ...
Now she's married to a local there at oz
Acty go nz oz is gd. But u must tahan the work
Quote from: default on Mar 16, 2024, 09:21 AMActy go nz oz is gd. But u must tahan the work
Means one has to be energetic and able to endure labor intensive job .. but their work life bal ok de ... but my fren say cut potato until her hand grow thick calluses kinda thing inevitable .. diff kind of workplace health issue bah
Quote from: EncourageSome1 on Mar 16, 2024, 09:15 AMIf u feel finance / accounting is like that , maybe try to start anew on a say free lance basis on ur main industry
And try to get trained n certified in a different field ?
My friend another one she went oz to study pharmaceutical studies xxxxx when she was late twenty/ thirty ish
Was a teacher in local sec school ... then quit to study .. then she worked as new Pharma assistant from there after graduating... so to change her path she took 4 years ish ? Relocate , read a new BSc. , took a new job in a new place where she knew nobody ...
Now she's married to a local there at oz
thank you. yeah, going freelance is one of the considerations at the moment.
i completed 50% of my cpa so not sure if shld continue, even if continue but cant find someone to sign off my working exp = i also cant get the cpa designation
Quote from: Shiori on Mar 16, 2024, 08:33 AMhow abt nz
Nz is good.
look into Oz 189 visa. it's a PR for Oz based on points system. i believe u will get it.
once u get the Oz PR, u can live in both Oz and Nz as a resident
2 in 1
Quote from: Shiori on Mar 16, 2024, 08:25 AMgovt job apply before, no news
govt last 2 years freeze head count
even if they take u, its on 2 year contract
imo, bo huat. ur job is base on funding by gov.
if swey swey no have, contract no renew.
dont matter how good u r.
Quote from: EncourageSome1 on Mar 16, 2024, 09:26 AMMeans one has to be energetic and able to endure labor intensive job .. but their work life bal ok de ... but my fren say cut potato until her hand grow thick calluses kinda thing inevitable .. diff kind of workplace health issue bah
he doing acct type of work
anyway when
@Shiori goes over will become the jhk in their eyes liao
Quote from: nyvrem on Mar 16, 2024, 11:10 AMgovt last 2 years freeze head count
even if they take u, its on 2 year contract
imo, bo huat. ur job is base on funding by gov.
if swey swey no have, contract no renew.
dont matter how good u r.
got see before. it depends actually. i see which one will be converted very zhun one
Quote from: nyvrem on Mar 16, 2024, 11:10 AMgovt last 2 years freeze head count
even if they take u, its on 2 year contract
imo, bo huat. ur job is base on funding by gov.
if swey swey no have, contract no renew.
dont matter how good u r.
think mostly alr going for 2yr contract yeah ? pre-covid alr so.
Very difficult to find a place that is nice to work. If u can, research on the company values and personal values of the big bosses to see if matches yours before joining
Quote from: Tony.Manero on Mar 16, 2024, 12:16 PMVery difficult to find a place that is nice to work. If u can, research on the company values and personal values of the big bosses to see if matches yours before joining
need to work harder in my research next time
Quote from: Tony.Manero on Mar 16, 2024, 12:16 PMVery difficult to find a place that is nice to work. If u can, research on the company values and personal values of the big bosses to see if matches yours before joining
my previous job used to be ok, but i lost everything after they did a restructuring which happened less than 2 months i joined them, and i was left with almost zero guidance and direction. but i still worked for another 1.5 years almost entirely alone with few support and respect from colleagues too. coz they see i no manager in local office, so become easy target.
overseas hq got staffs and i had an imaginary reporting line to them. no support alr nvm, they even interfered with my work also.
the final straw was the auditors refused to sign off the audit, resigned and backdated their resignation, with the audit manager calling me and tell me specifically i should not work in that job and coy any longer.
Quote from: Shiori on Mar 16, 2024, 12:31 PMmy previous job used to be ok, but i lost everything after they did a restructuring which happened less than 2 months i joined them, and i was left with almost zero guidance and direction. but i still worked for another 1.5 years almost entirely alone with few support and respect from colleagues too. coz they see i no manager in local office, so become easy target.
overseas hq got staffs and i had an imaginary reporting line to them. no support alr nvm, they even interfered with my work also.
the final straw was the auditors refused to sign off the audit, resigned and backdated their resignation, with the audit manager calling me and tell me specifically i should not work in that job and coy any longer.
I tio before too. New big boss came in and his values different. Start chopping and changing culture below till jin jialat.
Quote from: Tony.Manero on Mar 16, 2024, 12:34 PMI tio before too. New big boss came in and his values different. Start chopping and changing culture below till jin jialat.
what to do.
then now my current role also not very good. poor mgmt here.
i struggle to keep afloat, thats all
Govt is 2 yrs contract meh? I thought is rolling year by year until confirm?
Believe it depends on the role and the dept's headcount requirements.
But yes, heard telling to trim also. Scary right
Honestly everywhr also crappy one. Tbh the companies i worked for longest also got issues here and there
Nth is perfect de. Unless u are scholar, leelated to boss or seebey good at job+por lampa
Quote from: Shiori on Mar 16, 2024, 12:03 PMthink mostly alr going for 2yr contract yeah ? pre-covid alr so.
nowadays its mostly contract everywhere
dont need justify any lay offs if they never renew contract
Quote from: Shiori on Mar 16, 2024, 10:09 AMthank you. yeah, going freelance is one of the considerations at the moment.
i completed 50% of my cpa so not sure if shld continue, even if continue but cant find someone to sign off my working exp = i also cant get the cpa designation
If need another cpa to sign you off.. shd work full time to get enuf recognition n work tgt time with someone else to get yrself signed off for full qualification... yr cpa school hv teachers who r in full time job in other industries are u in connection with them and do they know u r interested to change envt ? There's a certain value in going to face to face classes that online can't replace (my own feeling )
Quote from: nyvrem on Mar 16, 2024, 11:10 AMgovt last 2 years freeze head count
even if they take u, its on 2 year contract
imo, bo huat. ur job is base on funding by gov.
if swey swey no have, contract no renew.
dont matter how good u r.
For me .. if my existing work alr not ideal .. contract with someone new and i potentially like this company or at least 50% chance of good .. I ll go try ... at least better than
alr known and not good situation
Quote from: Shiori on Mar 16, 2024, 12:31 PMmy previous job used to be ok, but i lost everything after they did a restructuring which happened less than 2 months i joined them, and i was left with almost zero guidance and direction. but i still worked for another 1.5 years almost entirely alone with few support and respect from colleagues too. coz they see i no manager in local office, so become easy target.
overseas hq got staffs and i had an imaginary reporting line to them. no support alr nvm, they even interfered with my work also.
the final straw was the auditors refused to sign off the audit, resigned and backdated their resignation, with the audit manager calling me and tell me specifically i should not work in that job and coy any longer.
I think the audit manager saw the good in u and as a friend than foe he told u abt this ... why would external party say this to a company staff man 🫣
Quote from: EncourageSome1 on Mar 16, 2024, 01:18 PMFor me .. if my existing work alr not ideal .. contract with someone new and i potentially like this company or at least 50% chance of good .. I ll go try ... at least better than alr known and not good situation
i cannot know how
@Shiori is experencing.
my first job is still my only job since i got hired right after graduating over 10 years ago
was thankful enough that they let me rotate everywhere and go 3/4 + 1/2 time when i wanted too
if i didn't like ppl in my department, either i backstab and kill them off or i move away
Quote from: default on Mar 16, 2024, 12:41 PMHonestly everywhr also crappy one. Tbh the companies i worked for longest also got issues here and there
Nth is perfect de. Unless u are scholar, leelated to boss or seebey good at job+por lampa
if everyday u wake up, looking forward to going to ur office to do things because u want too, and not because u got dateline
then u found that job u really love that could turn out to be your vocation
but its super super rare imo.
i met ppl like that b4. this guy working for a big christian church, he organizes mission trips to the region to help the poor villages
he really loves his job, he goes in early, leaves late, weekend also go, because he believes in what he does. the salary is secondary.
If you become jobless, you will also be moody..so just continue with it..at least you r getting paid 🙂
Anyway you have financial background, why not venture into stock trading (if you haven't tried it) and see whether you can carve out a successful path from it. And, if you're really good at trading, at least it's a good backup to fall back on if u quit your current job without securing a new one.
CheerS!!!😉
Quote from: GhostZM on Mar 16, 2024, 03:12 PMIf you become jobless, you will also be moody..so just continue with it..at least you r getting paid 🙂
Anyway you have financial background, why not venture into stock trading (if you haven't tried it) and see whether you can carve out a successful path from it. And, if you're really good at trading, at least it's a good backup to fall back on if u quit your current job without securing a new one.
CheerS!!!😉
Ts beware pls only use $ u can afford to lose yea ...
Quote from: EncourageSome1 on Mar 16, 2024, 09:12 AMmy frens go nz when they young then later joined their agriculture industry then fr work holiday work long term as their farming additional staff then after X years became their pr
But I remb she went when she was abt 2x. They want young ppl cos of labor intensive work and young ppl tend to give longer time of gdp contributions before needing health care sv and retirement support ?
This old soul actually damn young
Quote from: EncourageSome1 on Mar 16, 2024, 01:20 PMI think the audit manager saw the good in u and as a friend than foe he told u abt this ... why would external party say this to a company staff man 🫣
I think got serious compliance issue getting rdy to tio cheng by pap so ish warning if not maybe u going to tio pwn
Quote from: EncourageSome1 on Mar 16, 2024, 01:17 PMIf need another cpa to sign you off.. shd work full time to get enuf recognition n work tgt time with someone else to get yrself signed off for full qualification... yr cpa school hv teachers who r in full time job in other industries are u in connection with them and do they know u r interested to change envt ? There's a certain value in going to face to face classes that online can't replace (my own feeling )
our cpa studies is self-study
Quote from: EncourageSome1 on Mar 16, 2024, 01:20 PMI think the audit manager saw the good in u and as a friend than foe he told u abt this ... why would external party say this to a company staff man 🫣
not sure but probably they can feel i am struggling in that job ?
as emails flying everywhere from me but no answer received from others
the auditors also cant do their work too
all i know is back then the auditors engaged some external parties or their local audit offices at other countries to do investigation and discovered things which have been around all these years but were not picked up in the past audits conducted in prior years
Quote from: Shiori on Mar 16, 2024, 06:04 PMnot sure but probably they can feel i am struggling in that job ?
as emails flying everywhere from me but no answer received from others
the auditors also cant do their work too
all i know is back then the auditors engaged some external parties or their local audit offices at other countries to do investigation and discovered things which have been around all these years but were not picked up in the past audits conducted in prior years
But at e v least u left sinking ship which was corroded by white ants before they come n stain yr name lor .. so I thk this is good amidst the rot ...
East house no work find west house to work la... in sg as long as we healthy can work .. sure can find another job .. only sometimes we can't get back a certain salary $ due to competition or the envt and stress level sometimes not what we preferred
How about jump to a contract or pt first while finding a FT job
Get out of there first
Health or 1/2 risk
Quote from: GhostZM on Mar 16, 2024, 03:12 PMIf you become jobless, you will also be moody..so just continue with it..at least you r getting paid 🙂
Anyway you have financial background, why not venture into stock trading (if you haven't tried it) and see whether you can carve out a successful path from it. And, if you're really good at trading, at least it's a good backup to fall back on if u quit your current job without securing a new one.
CheerS!!!😉
i got buy some stocks. but usually i hoot t-bills these days
Quote from: EncourageSome1 on Mar 16, 2024, 06:07 PMBut at e v least u left sinking ship which was corroded by white ants before they come n stain yr name lor .. so I thk this is good amidst the rot ...
East house no work find west house to work la... in sg as long as we healthy can work .. sure can find another job .. only sometimes we can't get back a certain salary $ due to competition or the envt and stress level sometimes not what we preferred
ya...but jump into another hole
but i see some ppl keep jumping around and getting more and more salaries but they actually is behkan when u compare their CV against their work performance. like machiam fake it until u make it that kind.
Quote from: Nevereatrice on Mar 16, 2024, 09:55 PMHow about jump to a contract or pt first while finding a FT job
Get out of there first
Health or 1/2 risk
yeah. health is wealth.
Quote from: Shiori on Mar 17, 2024, 08:10 AMya...but jump into another hole
but i see some ppl keep jumping around and getting more and more salaries but they actually is behkan when u compare their CV against their work performance. like machiam fake it until u make it that kind.
I think I can uds what u mean... officially they coined it imposter syndrome ...
But isn't it universally like that .. everyone is promoted until they reached e limit of their competency ... even parents or siblings .. then the role is optimised and de optimised... then net value diminishes... then stabilised until this someone improves or becomes a better version 🤗🫣😅🧐
Quote from: EncourageSome1 on Mar 17, 2024, 10:09 AMI think I can uds what u mean... officially they coined it imposter syndrome ...
But isn't it universally like that .. everyone is promoted until they reached e limit of their competency ... even parents or siblings .. then the role is optimised and de optimised... then net value diminishes... then stabilised until this someone improves or becomes a better version 🤗🫣😅🧐
one reason i struggle now is coz i changed manager some time back, the new manager is super impressive on paper but does not tally with work performance...
now i is machiam no different from previous job, ownself struggle no support no guidance...
Quote from: Shiori on Mar 17, 2024, 08:10 AMsome ppl keep jumping around and getting more and more salaries but they actually is behkan when u compare their CV against their work performance. like machiam fake it until u make it that kind.
many of such people
Quote from: Shiori on Mar 17, 2024, 01:03 PMone reason i struggle now is coz i changed manager some time back, the new manager is super impressive on paper but does not tally with work performance...
now i is machiam no different from previous job, ownself struggle no support no guidance...
often it's like that ... it's like u ownself swim or sink is yr own biz cos mgr ownself also buay zai and don't know his stuff
You are good enuf to swim alone sometimes 💪🏿💪🏿
But on e bright side .. I know my job well .. I don't need other ppl jaga me .. I jaga my things n overall dept stuff .. those I don want to help one I just throw back to mgr that s all
heng only moi first CO dun like me
after i changed CO, things got better but i tank 3years + for the CO to change