Have you ever tried to trace your father's footsteps to see what he was like when young?
Moi papa was voluntary
Police last time
Now ish security guard :s22:
I have given all the certs to National archives liao so I don't have anything with me. Medal o think lost liao
I even wrote to mindef to say we should honor the locals who joined the British army in the 1950s cos it's still part of our history. Tiagong from my dad that when the British army left Singapore, any locals there were given jobs in SAF if they wished with a two rank promotion upon hiring
Mindef said they will consider and that's that
In 2016 I did meet up with my dad's old army friends. My dad passed away in 1998. But I came across a now defunct website of the BALEP (British army local enlisted personnel) and they met every Sunday at holland V at a specific coffee shop and a specific table and I joined them out of the blue.
They were caught off guard because this group was tight knit and it's not like there are new members since the British army left in the 1970s or something. So I took pictures with them but I dunno if I should share here. 😝
my father nv served army coz he is 82. he got say before when they were drafting enlistees, they checked age then he escaped by being 2 yrs older or just barely.
so i guess those under 80 all got serve. i might be wrong.
he said they round them up then checked their particulars. then end up dunno is give them $2 each and let those no need to do NS one go home
1967 NS was implemented for all 18 year olds- wiki, but nv state is only 18 or up to 21 or 22
my father born in 1942......... so he was 25 yo
i got an ex army officer boss - admin officer la, was retired officer, they told me he was first or first few batch at that time, so hes close to my father's age. at least 75 and above bah now
dunno leh, all these must go ask these above 75 yr old people then they know
Quote from: default on Sep 09, 2024, 01:34 PMmy father nv served army coz he is 82. he got say before when they were drafting enlistees, they checked age then he escaped by being 2 yrs older or just barely.
so i guess those under 80 all got serve. i might be wrong.
he said they round them up then checked their particulars. then end up dunno is give them $2 each and let those no need to do NS one go home
1967 NS was implemented for all 18 year olds- wiki, but nv state is only 18 or up to 21 or 22
my father born in 1942......... so he was 25 yo
i got an ex army officer boss - admin officer la, was retired officer, they told me he was first or first few batch at that time, so hes close to my father's age. at least 75 and above bah now
dunno leh, all these must go ask these above 75 yr old people then they know
He was in the British army. Army boys trade school. They taught you a trade (not sure how it works) and you served the army.
He was supposed to go to school when someone told him about this and he just went and joined.
The commander asked all Christians to go to the left, Buddhist and Taoist to the right, Hindu to the back and muslims to the front. My dad and some others were atheists. Then the commander pointed to the chaplain and said "chaplain we have new converts "
And they started training after the consent form was signed. My grandfather knew nothing (cos my dad was supposed to go to school). So he waited everyday for my dad to return. But for a long time he never did
I asked my dad how he got the consent form signed he just said he forged the signature
Then my granddad heard in the market my dad was in the British army and he got hopping mad cos good sons don't join the army. But think he came to terms with it eventually
My dad went for officer training and he told me it was different then
Phase one was basic drill and skills
Phase two was specialised skills for combat
Seems like OCS
Phase three was like command skills BUT because it was during confrontation, anything major happen the phase three cadets will instantly get commissioned and sent to war.
Eventually my dad became a seventh day Adventist and told his commander he cannot kill. But i think cos of good conduct and the medal the discharge was an honourable one
I always told my dad it was wasted cos when the British left, the soldiers were given the choice to leave or redeploy to UK. I could have been a uk citizen.
But that's roughly all I know about his army life but some pieces like what he actually said was filled in when I met his old friends in 2016. Dunno if they lied or mis remembered but it was good to hear those words even if they were fake.
Quote from: Philipkee on Sep 09, 2024, 01:58 PMMy dad went for officer training and he told me it was different then
Phase one was basic drill and skills
Phase two was specialised skills for combat
Seems like OCS
Phase three was like command skills BUT because it was during confrontation, anything major happen the phase three cadets will instantly get commissioned and sent to war.
Eventually my dad became a seventh day Adventist and told his commander he cannot kill. But i think cos of good conduct and the medal the discharge was an honourable one
I always told my dad it was wasted cos when the British left, the soldiers were given the choice to leave or redeploy to UK. I could have been a uk citizen.
But that's roughly all I know about his army life but some pieces like what he actually said was filled in when I met his old friends in 2016. Dunno if they lied or mis remembered but it was good to hear those words even if they were fake.
ya la old people will forget or blow cow a bit one
but even if u UK citizen also not always good. it was good like 10-20 or 30 yrs ago
but now it's a shit place dont u see? so got good and bad
only good thing is bigger place, more opportunities to start biz and can move to europe and more place to rest and relax
but now is mayhem so many refugees and crimes
u seventh day adventist? ur father after out of army got join them?
Quote from: default on Sep 09, 2024, 02:27 PMu seventh day adventist? ur father after out of army got join them?
Protestant. That's the frustrating thing. He became a SDA that's why he left the army
A few years later he joined brethren church then the BP circle. That's why I say it's wasted
Nominally I am still Anglican but I usually listen to Methodist sermons
Quote from: default on Sep 09, 2024, 02:26 PMya la old people will forget or blow cow a bit one
but even if u UK citizen also not always good. it was good like 10-20 or 30 yrs ago
but now it's a shit place dont u see? so got good and bad
only good thing is bigger place, more opportunities to start biz and can move to europe and more place to rest and relax
but now is mayhem so many refugees and crimes
Not true
Cos if he went to UK and be a UK citizen, his parents are still in Singapore. Maybe I can come over as FT
Quote from: Philipkee on Sep 09, 2024, 02:41 PMNot true
Cos if he went to UK and be a UK citizen, his parents are still in Singapore. Maybe I can come over as FT
maybe only la........ i also got regret last time my father nv join his colleague in many things and also nv buy certain stuff
like my maternal grandpa almost bought a place at river valley. u know how much that is worth. last time was fucking dirt cheap and money easy to make
1 cny they made enough to buy a new car and can buy a flat at jalan kukoh (not fully paid of course)
that time was between buying a flat or a landed/land at river valley
my father's colleague was doing odd job in the shop, now is union gas boss (u can check his interview whr he also mentioned working at the shop)
a lot of things in life is 注定 one
dont say i talk cock. i always can substantiate
https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/trans-cab-towkay-teo-kiang-ang-ambition-industry-and-a-bit-of-luck
A trading company in Rochor Road hired him as a general dogsbody. "I swept the floors, cleaned the toilets, ate and slept in the company and was paid $30 a month," says Mr Teo, who stayed with the company for five years. "But I also learnt a lot - how to do business, how to deal with people."
basically is last time u can make it big, if u got the balls
my father worked like 40 yrs for the company, learnt nth. also nv ask the boss for a car/van and never ask for leaves, never ask for commission
then their son wedding invited my parents coz still got keep in touch
tiagong the son didnt study v high but the wife was quite pretty and studied high
so lao peh wu lui still works
and last time a lot more opportunities since many did gray area biz and also did untellable things
met many of such people
now our gen is rly super jialat
nxt gen i tell u no need to think even
Quote from: jim889 on Sep 09, 2024, 03:50 PMif chiu see the logo of the cert ish the uk govermant coat of arms.
of coz it ish reconised in the uk rah
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Depends la. Are certs given by SAF recognised in Singapore also? Like can the SAF issue certs for maybe N level or o level regulars that are equal to o levels or a levels outside of army?
Or they must go through MOE?
i went to the exact spot of his childhood kampong and visualise how it looked like in 1960s
its now a HDB. Only the temple is spared from development
Quote from: Philipkee on Sep 09, 2024, 05:19 PMDepends la. Are certs given by SAF recognised in Singapore also? Like can the SAF issue certs for maybe N level or o level regulars that are equal to o levels or a levels outside of army?
Or they must go through MOE?
if chiu see the cert issued by SAF is the SAF crest..
not the sg coat of arms of coz not recognized rah..
even the o level cert is MOE crest never the majula crest
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My late dad had a fun life. Farming, planting, fishing.
Enjoyed eating many foods, had a great appetite.
Enjoyed his freedom, involved in many hobbies.
Quote from: luckyapple on Sep 09, 2024, 07:45 PMMy late dad had a fun life. Farming, planting, fishing.
Enjoyed eating many foods, had a great appetite.
Enjoyed his freedom, involved in many hobbies.
chiu can continue his legacy
:flash:
Quote from: jim889 on Sep 09, 2024, 07:47 PMchiu can continue his legacy
:flash:
I think, planting yes but not his style of planting.
I following my dad footsteps.
Learn gambling
Learn smoking
Learn drinking
Learn prostituting
I think i doing better job than he did.
Quote from: luckyapple on Sep 09, 2024, 09:29 PMI think, planting yes but not his style of planting.
u say he anyhow bury things then wait for them to rot right
his way of composting also wrong liao
Quote from: default on Sep 09, 2024, 02:44 PMmaybe only la........ i also got regret last time my father nv join his colleague in many things and also nv buy certain stuff
like my maternal grandpa almost bought a place at river valley. u know how much that is worth. last time was fucking dirt cheap and money easy to make
1 cny they made enough to buy a new car and can buy a flat at jalan kukoh (not fully paid of course)
that time was between buying a flat or a landed/land at river valley
my father's colleague was doing odd job in the shop, now is union gas boss (u can check his interview whr he also mentioned working at the shop)
a lot of things in life is 注定 one
Last time river valley the walk up apartments near f&n there nobody wants one.
More for those bar girls who working near great world cabaret n become mistress to rich ask.
How i know ah.
My ah mah sister is bar girl mistress lover of some ask back then. Young young time i always see her omega hair with make up despite being so old liao whenever got festival makan at home make those big makan eat table. Very generous also.
Those walk up apartment near Shanghai road there cheap until cannot back then.
Think she got a few units there from her cabaret sisters, at least that's what I can recall.
Quote from: default on Sep 09, 2024, 09:43 PMu say he anyhow bury things then wait for them to rot right
his way of composting also wrong liao
I never wan to follow his planting style. I prefer clean way of planting. Compost I will doy way lo, if I have the chance
Quote from: bsg on Sep 09, 2024, 09:45 PMLast time river valley the walk up apartments near f&n there nobody wants one.
More for those bar girls who working near great world cabaret n become mistress to rich ask.
How i know ah.
My ah mah sister is bar girl mistress lover of some ask back then. Young young time i always see her omega hair with make up despite being so old liao whenever got festival makan at home make those big makan eat table. Very generous also.
Those walk up apartment near Shanghai road there cheap until cannot back then.
Think she got a few units there from her cabaret sisters, at least that's what I can recall.
still worth millions la hello. and no one knows which unit, but i suspect near the kim yam road there
Quote from: luckyapple on Sep 09, 2024, 09:47 PMI never wan to follow his planting style. I prefer clean way of planting. Compost I will doy way lo, if I have the chance
i accidentally buy a bag of fertilizer. rly smells like shit and i got too much of it liao. not sure if want to buy another plant. wah lau eh the whole bag i think can use 10 yrs or more
the problem is they dont have small pack one. bought from ntuc. if u want nxt time pass to u... or anyone here who interested and want to grow plants
Quote from: default on Sep 09, 2024, 10:19 PMi accidentally buy a bag of fertilizer. rly smells like shit and i got too much of it liao. not sure if want to buy another plant. wah lau eh the whole bag i think can use 10 yrs or more
the problem is they dont have small pack one. bought from ntuc. if u want nxt time pass to u... or anyone here who interested and want to grow plants
I have fertiliser liao thanks. No need le. Can give to others oh.
Quote from: default on Sep 09, 2024, 10:18 PMstill worth millions la hello. and no one knows which unit, but i suspect near the kim yam road there
Millions is only now.
U know how hard to sell those walk up apartments arnot last time their era.
Knn damn difficult one. Now only hope for enbloc. Enbloc fever finish then back to unrealized million dream again.
Last time those places all maciam haunted houses.
Think madam wong etc. Only becos conservation then become millions.
Last time where got people think until so far ahead one.
See today yr 3 hdb u dont sell.
Wait for 30 years later maybe few mil right.
Quote from: default on Sep 09, 2024, 10:19 PMi accidentally buy a bag of fertilizer. rly smells like shit and i got too much of it liao. not sure if want to buy another plant. wah lau eh the whole bag i think can use 10 yrs or more
the problem is they dont have small pack one. bought from ntuc. if u want nxt time pass to u... or anyone here who interested and want to grow plants
Bff moved to Uk gave a bag of soil
He bought it to save his neighbourhood tree
End up they killed the tree n make a pavement
Half bag he gave me the soil
I gave to my neighbour who do planting
Quote from: Philipkee on Sep 09, 2024, 01:22 PMHave you ever tried to trace your father's footsteps to see what he was like when young?
My pa used to work msia KL for short while as a teen
Then there was racial motivated rioting
Then he worked in a while
Then he got citi certificates later became ite
Then he drove construction equipment and married my mom
He had us and we lived Whampoa and Kallang
Then later Bendemeer
Later we lived happily ever after in woodlands
Then he was thinking of moving to Malaysia to work while tumpang us with our uncle and aunt
Then they didn't
Then we grew up
I don't have much to trace but I think he just a normal bbfa
Married a cute girl
They hv 3 kids
He couldn't cope w expenses
She goes work
Kids become lock key children
And we grew up
They retired
Like that lor
Quote from: EncourageSome1 on Sep 09, 2024, 11:56 PMMy pa used to work msia KL for short while as a teen
Then there was racial motivated rioting
Then he worked in a while
Then he got citi certificates later became ite
Then he drove construction equipment and married my mom
He had us and we lived Whampoa and Kallang
Then later Bendemeer
Later we lived happily ever after in woodlands
Then he was thinking of moving to Malaysia to work while tumpang us with our uncle and aunt
Then they didn't
Then we grew up
I don't have much to trace but I think he just a normal bbfa
Married a cute girl
They hv 3 kids
He couldn't cope w expenses
She goes work
Kids become lock key children
And we grew up
They retired
Like that lor
Got any GPGT?
Quote from: Philipkee on Sep 10, 2024, 12:17 AMGot any GPGT?
I don't want to ask him eh .. but I can look see if they hv any old pic
Cos u think 194x 5x
Quite hard to get pic
But he kept every receipt 🧾 so they must be somewhere in his possession
But he hv 100-1000 receipts ba I think
Quote from: EncourageSome1 on Sep 09, 2024, 11:52 PMBff moved to Uk gave a bag of soil
He bought it to save his neighbourhood tree
End up they killed the tree n make a pavement
Half bag he gave me the soil
I gave to my neighbour who do planting
Think if i not buying any more plant then will just dump the bag downstairs make the tree grow faster
Quote from: luckyapple on Sep 09, 2024, 09:29 PMI think, planting yes but not his style of planting.
plant potted plants roh
:flash:
Quote from: default on Sep 10, 2024, 02:42 AMThink if i not buying any more plant then will just dump the bag downstairs make the tree grow faster
Dont know can throw durian seed there then spam fertilizers or not
Anyway ya i know durian tree they dunno use what cutting to develop special cultivars one
But rly dont have any need for the fertilizers
Quote from: default on Sep 10, 2024, 06:44 PMDont know can throw durian seed there then spam fertilizers or not
Anyway ya i know durian tree they dunno use what cutting to develop special cultivars one
But rly dont have any need for the fertilizers
think better chiu put durian seed flower pot, take care of it first water etc.. wait for it to germinate (if can) then transprant downstair when it becum stronger
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