On June 5, Dr Audrey Yeo, a medical officer with the Health Sciences Authority's (HSA) forensic medicine division, conducted an autopsy.
The autopsy certified that the cause of death was ischaemic heart disease, or coronary heart disease.
On June 7, Chan's peripheral blood and urine samples were also submitted to HSA for analysis.
The coroner's report stated that nothing unusual was detected from the analysis.
Though certain drugs were detected, Dr Yeo clarified that these drugs had been used for the treatment of – among other things – abnormal heart rhythms, hypertension and ischaemic heart disease.
Dr Yeo opined that the drug concentrations in the post-mortem blood sample were within their respective expected ranges and did not cause or contribute to Chan's death.
Medical reports were also obtained from Tan Tock Seng Hospital (TTSH) and independent medical experts.
The TTSH medical report stated that Chan was first seen as an outpatient at the hospital's cardiology clinic on May 18, 2015.
It stated that she had a past medical history of diabetes mellitus, hypertension, dyslipidaemia and stable ischemic heart disease.
Separately, Dr Lim Xin Rong from TTSH's department of rheumatology, allergy and immunology was appointed by the Academy of Medicine to be the independent medical expert.
In her report, Dr Lim concurred with the finding of ischaemic heart disease as Chan's cause of death.
Dr Lim said that the diagnosis of vaccine-induced immune thrombotic thrombocytopenia was "unlikely" as there were "no demonstrable thrombi or clots".
Dr Lim was asked to comment on a document furnished by Chan's next-of-kin, which included a section stating that acute coronary syndrome and coronary artery disease were known to be adverse effects of the vaccine.
However, she concluded that the document did not show these to be the vaccine's adverse effects.
On Dec 13, 2022, Dr Lim was provided with additional post-mortem ancillary investigation reports, and asked to provide her views on whether there were any links between the vaccination and Chan's cause of death.
Dr Lim concluded that there was no such evidence.
In his report, Coroner Goh noted that Chan had a known history of diabetes mellitus, hypertension, hyperlipidemia and ischaemic heart disease.
As she had died shortly after she had taken a Covid-19 vaccine shot, "her family understandably has expressed concerns as to whether the Covid-19 vaccine had caused her death".
The coroner, however, said that the medical reports concluded that the vaccine did not cause her death.
"Whilst the family has provided medical literature to show a possible link between the Covid-19 vaccine shot and Mdm Chan's death, in my view, this literature was inconclusive and insufficient for this inquiry to reach the conclusion that the Covid-19 vaccine caused or contributed to Mdm Chan's death.
"Further, the evidence before the court is that the body's reaction to, in this case, a vaccine, would occur almost immediately after a vaccine is administered.
"This was not the case here."
https://www.todayonline.com/news/woman-died-day-after-covid-vaccine-heart-failure-unlinked-vaccine-coroner-2466971?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
but the coincidence is...
The doctor and coroner wants to keep their jobs
"vaccines for covid19 are safe"
"underlying conditions"
wonder how these cb can sleep well at night
Must be Underlying.. Or someone is lying
Covid 19 vaccine issues will be buried as time passes... We will nv know the truth
Under-
Lying 🤥
Yo~
Singapore is PAP
PAP is God and the ultimate truth.
Do you go against God?
Quote from: FireOpal on Jul 30, 2024, 12:13 PMSingapore is PAP
PAP is God and the ultimate truth.
Do you go against God?
of coz chiu can sayed no
:flash:
I will just say something as a medical professional. A lot of times, the doctors have to be careful because they need to back up what they say. That's why they usually use the words "no evidence of". It's very tricky and contentious also. Cos Covid 19 vaccination is a very emotional topic cos it was forced down on people and people did die after vaccination, it's just whether or not evidence suggest that Covid 19 vaccination is cause of death.
If 10,000 people got the jab and 100 died, how do you prove that the jab caused the death seeing 9900 survived? This is especially so if the 100 who died had multiple co morbidities as well.
Could the vaccines have caused the deaths? No evidence of it
Could the vaccines have triggered a co morbidity that killed the person? Possible but the question is how to prove it.
Were the vaccines effective? Partially cos vaccines are supposed to prevent an illness from happening as opposed to reducing the severity of illness. It's the ineffectiveness of the vaccine that changed the definition of vaccines
But the underlying question is did the vaccines cause the death and the only answer any medical professional can give now is "no evidence of it". It's not the same as saying not possible. It's just saying no evidence of it.
Quote from: Philipkee on Jul 30, 2024, 04:48 PMI will just say something as a medical professional. A lot of times, the doctors have to be careful because they need to back up what they say. That's why they usually use the words "no evidence of". It's very tricky and contentious also. Cos Covid 19 vaccination is a very emotional topic cos it was forced down on people and people did die after vaccination, it's just whether or not evidence suggest that Covid 19 vaccination is cause of death.
If 10,000 people got the jab and 100 died, how do you prove that the jab caused the death seeing 9900 survived? This is especially so if the 100 who died had multiple co morbidities as well.
Could the vaccines have caused the deaths? No evidence of it
Could the vaccines have triggered a co morbidity that killed the person? Possible but the question is how to prove it.
Were the vaccines effective? Partially cos vaccines are supposed to prevent an illness from happening as opposed to reducing the severity of illness. It's the ineffectiveness of the vaccine that changed the definition of vaccines
But the underlying question is did the vaccines cause the death and the only answer any medical professional can give now is "no evidence of it". It's not the same as saying not possible. It's just saying no evidence of it.
have evidence also wont say one rah.
coz the confidentiality agreement they signed to get access to this vaccine
:frown:
Quote from: jim889 on Jul 30, 2024, 05:33 PMhave evidence also wont say one rah.
coz the confidentiality agreement they signed to get access to this vaccine
:frown:
Not true.
Now, you need to differentiate between the medical doctors and the politicians or doctors who wanna be politicians. The difference is subtle but it's there
Quote from: jim889 on Jul 30, 2024, 05:33 PMhave evidence also wont say one rah.
coz the confidentiality agreement they signed to get access to this vaccine
:frown:
Have lah... Sg got payout a few ppl who had serious adverse effects
But downplay it until duno what
Quote from: Philipkee on Jul 30, 2024, 04:48 PMI will just say something as a medical professional. A lot of times, the doctors have to be careful because they need to back up what they say. That's why they usually use the words "no evidence of". It's very tricky and contentious also. Cos Covid 19 vaccination is a very emotional topic cos it was forced down on people and people did die after vaccination, it's just whether or not evidence suggest that Covid 19 vaccination is cause of death.
If 10,000 people got the jab and 100 died, how do you prove that the jab caused the death seeing 9900 survived? This is especially so if the 100 who died had multiple co morbidities as well.
Could the vaccines have caused the deaths? No evidence of it
Could the vaccines have triggered a co morbidity that killed the person? Possible but the question is how to prove it.
Were the vaccines effective? Partially cos vaccines are supposed to prevent an illness from happening as opposed to reducing the severity of illness. It's the ineffectiveness of the vaccine that changed the definition of vaccines
But the underlying question is did the vaccines cause the death and the only answer any medical professional can give now is "no evidence of it". It's not the same as saying not possible. It's just saying no evidence of it.
As medical professional, chiu do know there cannot be death, not even one even in clinical trial. Because everyone has only 1 life.
Quote from: Suntan on Jul 30, 2024, 06:30 PMAs medical professional, chiu do know there cannot be death, not even one even in clinical trial. Because everyone has only 1 life.
Yes but you do know that even Panadol can cause death in some people
Every surgery or treatment has a risk of death or injury. So it's benefits outweigh the risk.
Ultimately it's the greater good that's at stake.
Quote from: Philipkee on Jul 30, 2024, 06:53 PMYes but you do know that even Panadol can cause death in some people
Every surgery or treatment has a risk of death or injury. So it's benefits outweigh the risk.
Ultimately it's the greater good that's at stake.
Everything has risk but it's the responsibility of the medical world to ensure 100% before rolling out so ppl can make a decision to use or not. In vaccine case, it's not 100% voluntarily. If not 100, can't force or write indemnity.
Quote from: Suntan on Jul 30, 2024, 07:39 PMEverything has risk but it's the responsibility of the medical world to ensure 100% before rolling out so ppl can make a decision to use or not. In vaccine case, it's not 100% voluntarily. If not 100, can't force or write indemnity.
Two separate issues
"No evidence of" is what I agree with - this is more of a medical research thing
Forcing people to vaccinate or write indemnity is a political decision - I don't agree with it.
Quote from: Philipkee on Jul 30, 2024, 08:42 PMTwo separate issues
"No evidence of" is what I agree with - this is more of a medical research thing
Forcing people to vaccinate or write indemnity is a political decision - I don't agree with it.
is the lesser of two evils.
:frown:
Same lah
If the ahmah never vaccinate maybe die during pang sai how, so probably just time is up liao coincidence niah.
Vaccine safe la, meh meh pak.
U pak liao bway?
I haven't
Quote from: bsg on Jul 31, 2024, 09:17 AMSame lah
If the ahmah never vaccinate maybe die during pang sai how, so probably just time is up liao coincidence niah.
Vaccine safe la, meh meh pak.
U pak liao bway?
I haven't
That's life
During Covid
People who were unvaccinated who died were said cos you never vaccinated so you died
People who were vaccinated who died were said cos you vaccinated so you died
There is no way to go back in time and told those who died unvaccinated to vaccinate and see if you live or those who were vaccinated to don't vaccinate and see if you live.
At the end of the way, we all make our choices
Quote from: daryl76 on Jul 30, 2024, 05:05 AM"vaccines for covid19 are safe"
"underlying conditions"
wonder how these cb can sleep well at night
My hand 🖐� forever gone case
Quote from: peaceheart on Jul 30, 2024, 09:41 AMMust be Underlying.. Or someone is lying
Covid 19 vaccine issues will be buried as time passes... We will nv know the truth
but some of us ever after suffering from our jabs post effects
Quote from: jim889 on Jul 30, 2024, 05:33 PMhave evidence also wont say one rah.
coz the confidentiality agreement they signed to get access to this vaccine
:frown:
Ppl want their jobs .. if give us same do or die thing our family also will ask us zip n do yr job guaiguai got rice 🍚 bowl
Open big mouth can't save someone those who alr suffered or died or dying but ur rice bowl die also ..
Quote from: peaceheart on Jul 30, 2024, 06:02 PMHave lah... Sg got payout a few ppl who had serious adverse effects
But downplay it until duno what
Only those immediate family will care na .. who cares ? G don't care
Doc don care either
Quote from: Suntan on Jul 30, 2024, 07:39 PMEverything has risk but it's the responsibility of the medical world to ensure 100% before rolling out so ppl can make a decision to use or not. In vaccine case, it's not 100% voluntarily. If not 100, can't force or write indemnity.
In life there is no 100%
I think even med like paracetamol or aspirin or basic extraction of tooth also got ppl die from it
Quote from: EncourageSome1 on Jul 31, 2024, 12:35 PMbut some of us ever after suffering from our jabs post effects
Sadly, nobody cares and nobody can do anything about it
Ownself take care ownself
Quote from: Philipkee on Jul 31, 2024, 12:16 PMThat's life
During Covid
People who were unvaccinated who died were said cos you never vaccinated so you died
People who were vaccinated who died were said cos you vaccinated so you died
There is no way to go back in time and told those who died unvaccinated to vaccinate and see if you live or those who were vaccinated to don't vaccinate and see if you live.
At the end of the way, we all make our choices
There is no choice when your rice bowl and family is at stake
Quote from: EncourageSome1 on Jul 31, 2024, 12:37 PMPpl want their jobs .. if give us same do or die thing our family also will ask us zip n do yr job guaiguai got rice 🍚 bowl
Open big mouth can't save someone those who alr suffered or died or dying but ur rice bowl die also ..
just keep quiet is besh
:flash:
Quote from: peaceheart on Jul 31, 2024, 01:45 PMThere is no choice when your rice bowl and family is at stake
Yea. That is why while I agree with the vaccination, I don't agree with the way VDS was implemented
Quote from: daryl76 on Jul 31, 2024, 04:13 PMwtf? what happened?
When lkk was younger I could bake knead sew rinse wash paint like coolie worker..now even using keyboard ⌨️ mouse I usually hv to put gloves 😔 cos e skin every other day keeps crack n bleed even when I only use computer and hardly ever do tiny bit of colouring n pasting cutting craft
Quote from: EncourageSome1 on Jul 31, 2024, 04:38 PMWhen lkk was younger I could bake knead sew rinse wash paint like coolie worker..now even using keyboard ⌨️ mouse I usually hv to put gloves 😔 cos e skin every other day keeps crack n bleed even when I only use computer and hardly ever do tiny bit of colouring n pasting cutting craft
after the covid period???
Quote from: EncourageSome1 on Jul 31, 2024, 12:39 PMIn life there is no 100%
I think even med like paracetamol or aspirin or basic extraction of tooth also got ppl die from it
Yeh. But chiu hv a choice to do it or not. When ask to take vaccine,did anyone p
rovide chiu the %? No right? It's like 100% as no jab no job, can't go shopping centre....etc. what chiu think?
Then sign indemnity. Is it 100%?
Quote from: daryl76 on Jul 31, 2024, 08:34 PMafter the covid period???
Right after jab #3
I jabbed cos gov give it for free and I jab alr I can go overseas
Quote from: EncourageSome1 on Jul 31, 2024, 04:38 PMWhen lkk was younger I could bake knead sew rinse wash paint like coolie worker..now even using keyboard ⌨️ mouse I usually hv to put gloves 😔 cos e skin every other day keeps crack n bleed even when I only use computer and hardly ever do tiny bit of colouring n pasting cutting craft
I doubt is vaccine related la.
Old liao skin prone to crack easily n bleed.
U must buy those serum apply daily
Moisturize and put serum.
Skin too dry liao.
Old le ish like this one
Quote from: Suntan on Jul 31, 2024, 08:51 PMYeh. But chiu hv a choice to do it or not. When ask to take vaccine,did anyone p
rovide chiu the %? No right? It's like 100% as no jab no job, can't go shopping centre....etc. what chiu think?
Then sign indemnity. Is it 100%?
No1 force any1 to jab what.
I didn't jab but I don't discouraged others to not jab. Everyone got own priority
For me
No urgency to go dine in, socialize much.
Lagi no urgency must fly overseas travel.
Cos i know eventually they cannot be forcing everyone to not dine in go out socialize for too long periods.
Quote from: EncourageSome1 on Jul 31, 2024, 09:30 PMRight after jab #3
I jabbed cos gov give it for free and I jab alr I can go overseas
sorry to read this, i know of a few cases of rashes but not anything bad like yours
Quote from: EncourageSome1 on Jul 31, 2024, 09:30 PMRight after jab #3
I jabbed cos gov give it for free and I jab alr I can go overseas
Not because to keep your job?
Quote from: peaceheart on Aug 01, 2024, 09:49 AMNot because to keep your job?
Hmm I nv think so much cos that time cos allowed two shift wfh unless of diedie need to come in case
I was in shift 1 and only came to office during that 3-6 mth x2
And wrote 2 declarations that I m sure I art negative n masked and no fever no flu no symptom in pass 7 days or sthg
Quote from: daryl76 on Aug 01, 2024, 05:04 AMsorry to read this, i know of a few cases of rashes but not anything bad like yours
thanks for yr kind word .. everyone laughed at me and say I petty heart use the hand a bit so guniang.. really not I want de but I now let them say .. my skin also thickened alr ..
Quote from: bsg on Jul 31, 2024, 10:37 PMNo1 force any1 to jab what.
I didn't jab but I don't discouraged others to not jab. Everyone got own priority
For me
No urgency to go dine in, socialize much.
Lagi no urgency must fly overseas travel.
Cos i know eventually they cannot be forcing everyone to not dine in go out socialize for too long periods.
Chiu no need to work? Chiu not affected doesn't mean other not affected. HR says either chiu jab or quit. Wat do chiu think?
Quote from: EncourageSome1 on Aug 01, 2024, 11:54 AMthanks for yr kind word .. everyone laughed at me and say I petty heart use the hand a bit so guniang.. really not I want de but I now let them say .. my skin also thickened alr ..
who in the blue hell wanna have any health conditions? siao
Quote from: Suntan on Aug 01, 2024, 06:22 PMChiu no need to work? Chiu not affected doesn't mean other not affected. HR says either chiu jab or quit. Wat do chiu think?
Can quit right. Everyone got their priority.
I also want to work.
Go interview ask me jab anot. I say no and not going to. That y i still jobless until now
Think most people jab not due to job, but due to cannot travel shopping dine in. IMO la. Mai blast me
Quote from: bsg on Aug 01, 2024, 07:57 PMCan quit right. Everyone got their priority.
I also want to work.
Go interview ask me jab anot. I say no and not going to. That y i still jobless until now
Think most people jab not due to job, but due to cannot travel shopping dine in. IMO la. Mai blast me
both side also have lah
some jab to go holidays and go inside mall to jiak
some jab to protect their jobs
i also kena, no jab no job
which is why i so tulan gov
Quote from: daryl76 on Aug 02, 2024, 04:58 AMboth side also have lah
some jab to go holidays and go inside mall to jiak
some jab to protect their jobs
i also kena, no jab no job
which is why i so tulan gov
First and foremost will be job
Except for those elderly and retirees who go jab due to fear mongering, peer pressure and go malls and travel
Quote from: daryl76 on Aug 02, 2024, 04:58 AMboth side also have lah
some jab to go holidays and go inside mall to jiak
some jab to protect their jobs
i also kena, no jab no job
which is why i so tulan gov
Tis should not happen to anyone. Ppl should be given a choice as your body has to deal with foreign matters. Not everyone's body can take it. Glad you took care of your own body. Govt made chiu lose chiur rice bowl.
Quote from: Suntan on Aug 02, 2024, 12:49 PMTis should not happen to anyone. Ppl should be given a choice as your body has to deal with foreign matters. Not everyone's body can take it. Glad you took care of your own body. Govt made chiu lose chiur rice bowl.
Technically speaking, there is a choice....and that is no jab no job. Gov very cunning
i think it was a necessary evil to jab. the jab was supposed to prevent spreading and symptoms from being bad to all.
but end up nv prevent spreading la
unfortunately if u are the govt u have to push this through, i dont blame them
but after 3rd jab max, then no more, since somemore i kena twice and also symptoms were ok. after that if still force people to jab then it's very irresponsible
Quote from: default on Aug 02, 2024, 04:11 PMi think it was a necessary evil to jab. the jab was supposed to prevent spreading and symptoms from being bad to all.
but end up nv prevent spreading la
unfortunately if u are the govt u have to push this through, i dont blame them
but after 3rd jab max, then no more, since somemore i kena twice and also symptoms were ok. after that if still force people to jab then it's very irresponsible
It's all wrong from the very beginning. Firstly, It's a emergency approved vaccine
Secondly, vaccine only effective for 1 -2 yrs? And efficacy drop as times pass. Totally different from people's understanding. Iirc all these are only made known AFTER ppl are jabbed
So many variables still die die want to push everyone into it
Quote from: Suntan on Aug 02, 2024, 12:49 PMTis should not happen to anyone. Ppl should be given a choice as your body has to deal with foreign matters. Not everyone's body can take it. Glad you took care of your own body. Govt made chiu lose chiur rice bowl.
yeah i refused to jab those experimental drugs
made a few enemies also who said i am stupid not to take free stuff
Quote from: daryl76 on Aug 02, 2024, 06:36 PMyeah i refused to jab those experimental drugs
made a few enemies also who said i am stupid not to take free stuff
Gian peng free jabs lol. Give them free sai they also take
Those ppl really kumgongs til duno what
Quote from: peaceheart on Aug 02, 2024, 12:09 PMFirst and foremost will be job
Except for those elderly and retirees who go jab due to fear mongering, peer pressure and go malls and travel
play with ppl rice bowl, cb oyk next time will die a horrible death
one hand say not mandatory, other hand say no jab no job, no jab no malls, no jabs no eat out
Quote from: peaceheart on Aug 02, 2024, 03:47 PMTechnically speaking, there is a choice....and that is no jab no job. Gov very cunning
There is only choice if HR says, your body your choice. There was no such condition when everyone joins the coy.
One should not try to pad it....it's 自欺欺人.