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Title: Intel CPUs got problems ah... 13th and 14th Gen
Post by: Imboredasfuck on Jul 27, 2024, 01:28 AM
was thinking of getting desktop
Title: Re: Intel CPUs got problems ah... 13th and 14th Gen
Post by: Imboredasfuck on Jul 27, 2024, 01:28 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNUV-zL49oM&ab_channel=DannyzReviews

Like posted everywhr, but that forums nv say much in the hardware discussion?
Title: Re: Intel CPUs got problems ah... 13th and 14th Gen
Post by: 雨过天晴 on Jul 27, 2024, 05:37 AM
i using 13700KF, no issues.. choose mobo wisely
Title: Re: Intel CPUs got problems ah... 13th and 14th Gen
Post by: Imboredasfuck on Jul 27, 2024, 10:54 AM
Quote from: mGx-Alander on Jul 27, 2024, 05:37 AMi using 13700KF, no issues.. choose mobo wisely

Dunno shd wait 15 gen or not. They say deteriorates over time
Title: Re: Intel CPUs got problems ah... 13th and 14th Gen
Post by: Heng Su on Jul 27, 2024, 11:20 AM
amd ryzen cpus good also though  ;D
Title: Re: Intel CPUs got problems ah... 13th and 14th Gen
Post by: sTiCkY on Jul 27, 2024, 12:25 PM
Quote from: default on Jul 27, 2024, 01:28 AMwas thinking of getting desktop

only certain batches
Title: Re: Intel CPUs got problems ah... 13th and 14th Gen
Post by: sTiCkY on Jul 27, 2024, 12:26 PM
Quote from: mGx-Alander on Jul 27, 2024, 05:37 AMi using 13700KF, no issues.. choose mobo wisely

mostly the RPL B0 :s13:

which your chip falls under...

but if chiu buy ADL C0 13500.. chiu ish safe..
Title: Re: Intel CPUs got problems ah... 13th and 14th Gen
Post by: Imboredasfuck on Jul 27, 2024, 12:34 PM
Quote from: Heng Su on Jul 27, 2024, 11:20 AMamd ryzen cpus good also though  ;D

But not sure if optimized for qpplications other than gaming
Title: Re: Intel CPUs got problems ah... 13th and 14th Gen
Post by: Imboredasfuck on Jul 27, 2024, 12:35 PM
Quote from: sTiCkY on Jul 27, 2024, 12:25 PMonly certain batches

They say as much as 50% leh
Title: Re: Intel CPUs got problems ah... 13th and 14th Gen
Post by: sTiCkY on Jul 27, 2024, 12:47 PM
Quote from: default on Jul 27, 2024, 12:35 PMThey say as much as 50% leh

u talking about the slow down because of the micro code issue or the via oxidisation issues...

there will be a bios update to fix it in aug... the oxidisation issue no fix.. pray it spoil during warranty period...

anyway newer batches dun have this problem liao..
Title: Re: Intel CPUs got problems ah... 13th and 14th Gen
Post by: Imboredasfuck on Jul 27, 2024, 12:55 PM
Quote from: sTiCkY on Jul 27, 2024, 12:47 PMu talking about the slow down because of the micro code issue or the via oxidisation issues...

there will be a bios update to fix it in aug... the oxidisation issue no fix.. pray it spoil during warranty period...

anyway newer batches dun have this problem liao..

Oxidation issue. Hence not sure if shd wait for new gen
Title: Re: Intel CPUs got problems ah... 13th and 14th Gen
Post by: sTiCkY on Jul 27, 2024, 01:10 PM
Quote from: default on Jul 27, 2024, 12:55 PMOxidation issue. Hence not sure if shd wait for new gen

that's the older batches lol.. just buy.. now ok liao..
Title: Re: Intel CPUs got problems ah... 13th and 14th Gen
Post by: sTiCkY on Jul 27, 2024, 01:16 PM
https://www.anandtech.com/show/21484/intel-raptor-lake-instability-faults-voltage-microcode-fix-in-august

Short answer: We can confirm there was a via Oxidation manufacturing issue (addressed back in 2023) but it is not related to the instability issue.
Title: Re: Intel CPUs got problems ah... 13th and 14th Gen
Post by: Imboredasfuck on Jul 27, 2024, 02:15 PM
Quote from: sTiCkY on Jul 27, 2024, 01:10 PMthat's the older batches lol.. just buy.. now ok liao..

Tiagong nxt gen power more efficient... hmm see how bah i looking first
Title: Re: Intel CPUs got problems ah... 13th and 14th Gen
Post by: Imboredasfuck on Jul 27, 2024, 02:18 PM
Quote from: sTiCkY on Jul 27, 2024, 12:47 PMu talking about the slow down because of the micro code issue or the via oxidisation issues...

there will be a bios update to fix it in aug... the oxidisation issue no fix.. pray it spoil during warranty period...

anyway newer batches dun have this problem liao..

Think wait for fix and when they deploy lor. Was wondering to get in aug or eoy or early nxt yr.

Leaning more towards this yr tho.

Nxt yr is see new gen chip better or not since they shd be waking up their idea.

If aug bios update screw up again even worse
Title: Re: Intel CPUs got problems ah... 13th and 14th Gen
Post by: Imboredasfuck on Jul 27, 2024, 05:25 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zTX26Qjzs8&ab_channel=GamerMeld
Title: Re: Intel CPUs got problems ah... 13th and 14th Gen
Post by: BuiBuiForeverAlone on Jul 27, 2024, 07:00 PM
Long time no use intel processor. Lost track riao
Title: Re: Intel CPUs got problems ah... 13th and 14th Gen
Post by: Imboredasfuck on Jul 27, 2024, 08:59 PM
@mGx-Alander why u buy intel leh
Title: Re: Intel CPUs got problems ah... 13th and 14th Gen
Post by: Imboredasfuck on Jul 29, 2024, 04:32 PM
Intel Will Not Recall Failing 13th and 14th Gen CPUs

https://www.techpowerup.com/324963/intel-will-not-recall-failing-13th-and-14th-gen-cpus


It's official, Intel will not issue a recall for its failing 13th and 14th gen CPUs, despite the problem being much bigger than initially thought. The company was approached by The Verge and the answers to the questions asked, are not looking great. First of all, it appears that at least all 65 W or higher base power Intel 13th and 14th gen CPUs are affected—regardless of SKU and lettering—by the so-called elevated Voltage issue. To be clear, it doesn't mean all these CPUs will start to fail and Intel claims that its microcode update will solve the issue for CPUs that haven't shown any signs of stability issues. However, Intel is not promising that the microcode update will solve the stability issues of CPUs that are experiencing problems, but rather state that "It is possible the patch will provide some instability improvements", but it's asking those with stability issues to contact customer support. The patch is on the other hand expected to solve it for new CPUs, but that doesn't help those that are already experiencing stability issues.

Intel does appear to be swapping out degraded chips, but there's no guarantee that the replacement CPUs will come with the microcode update installed, as Intel is only starting to apply it to products that are currently being produced. The company has also asked all of its OEM partners to apply the update before shipping out new products, but this isn't likely to happen until sometime in early to mid-August according to Intel. It's also unclear when BIOS/UEFI updates will be available for end users from the motherboard manufacturers, since this is the only way to install the microcode update as a consumer. Intel has not gone on record to say if it'll extend the warranty of the affected products, nor did the company provide any details about what kind of information consumers have to provide to their customer support to be able to RMA a faulty CPU. Intel will not halt sales of the affected CPUs either, which means that if you're planning to or are in the middle of building a system using said CPUs, you might want to wait with using it, until a BIOS/UEFI with the microcode update in it, is available for your motherboard. There are more details over at The Verge for those that want to read the full questions and answers, but it's clear that Intel isn't considering the issue as anything more than a regular support issue at this point in time.

Title: Re: Intel CPUs got problems ah... 13th and 14th Gen
Post by: Imboredasfuck on Jul 29, 2024, 04:33 PM
as Intel is only starting to apply it to products that are currently being produced

so even if say i buy right now today

also might kena the CPU issues, since it's existing stock
Title: Re: Intel CPUs got problems ah... 13th and 14th Gen
Post by: Imboredasfuck on Aug 03, 2024, 10:48 PM
Intel Core 13th and 14th Generation desktop processors with 65W or higher base power – including K/KF/KS and 65W non-K variants – could be affected by the elevated voltages issue.

haiz just when i wanted to buy new pc. i guess this one hang on bah.

but not sure if i should buy monitor and table/chair first...

maybe can get table first. chair use old one....... the rest wait nearer EOY
Title: Re: Intel CPUs got problems ah... 13th and 14th Gen
Post by: 雨过天晴 on Oct 04, 2024, 06:57 PM
i think i got pwned, my network card suddenly stopped working, i want to update the latest bios, found out i got no more thumb drive, my SD cards cannot format FAT32

now i duno why my NIC suddenly no light, event manager say NIC cannot start  *sad* *sad* *sad* *sad* *sad*

luckily i got wifi adapter installed

https://www.asus.com/sg/support/faq/1008859/
Title: Re: Intel CPUs got problems ah... 13th and 14th Gen
Post by: jim889 on Oct 04, 2024, 06:58 PM
use usb to lan roh
 :frown:
Title: Re: Intel CPUs got problems ah... 13th and 14th Gen
Post by: 雨过天晴 on Oct 05, 2024, 06:38 PM
duno why suddenly can work after i woke up today  :frown:

but anyway i bought my usb drive from amazon for $8 sgd later going to flash the new bios to address the intel processer 13 gen prob
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