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Title: Asking salary for new job
Post by: 老曾记 on Jul 24, 2024, 06:38 PM
How many percentage increase is acceptable? If let's say it's the same role.
Title: Re: Asking salary for new job
Post by: Imboredtodeath on Jul 24, 2024, 06:42 PM
20 to 30% bah since they will argue down
Title: Re: Asking salary for new job
Post by: jim889 on Jul 24, 2024, 06:47 PM
Quote from: luckyapple on Jul 24, 2024, 06:38 PMHow many percentage increase is acceptable? If let's say it's the same role.

chiu found jod oredi ah
:flash:
Title: Re: Asking salary for new job
Post by: 老曾记 on Jul 24, 2024, 06:51 PM
Quote from: default on Jul 24, 2024, 06:42 PM20 to 30% bah since they will argue down

Ok I was planning to try 25% not sure if they find it ridiculous...

Quote from: jim889 on Jul 24, 2024, 06:47 PMchiu found jod oredi ah
:flash:

Yes... Better for mental health.

Monday send application, same day receive call for tml interview liao. I am a bit worried
Title: Re: Asking salary for new job
Post by: 老曾记 on Jul 24, 2024, 06:52 PM
I have alr write down my previous workplace terms and their potential terms. To show them tml to argue for a celery
Title: Re: Asking salary for new job
Post by: jim889 on Jul 24, 2024, 07:02 PM
Quote from: luckyapple on Jul 24, 2024, 06:51 PMOk I was planning to try 25% not sure if they find it ridiculous...

Yes... Better for mental health.

Monday send application, same day receive call for tml interview liao. I am a bit worried

wait for interview finish first then worry about celery rah
 :flash:
Title: Re: Asking salary for new job
Post by: Chao seng on Jul 24, 2024, 07:18 PM
I thought being paid a salary is a given in a job..why still need to ask? 😜


CheerS!!!;)
Title: Re: Asking salary for new job
Post by: Arctic on Jul 24, 2024, 07:58 PM
Gxgx zehzeh
Title: Re: Asking salary for new job
Post by: 老曾记 on Jul 24, 2024, 08:02 PM
Quote from: jim889 on Jul 24, 2024, 07:02 PMwait for interview finish first then worry about celery rah
 :flash:

Not worry about celery, is worry about their urgency
Title: Re: Asking salary for new job
Post by: 老曾记 on Jul 24, 2024, 08:04 PM
Quote from: peaceheart on Jul 24, 2024, 07:58 PMGxgx zehzeh

Thank you Peace kor.

Quote from: GhostZM on Jul 24, 2024, 07:18 PMI thought being paid a salary is a given in a job..why still need to ask? 😜


CheerS!!!;)

I first time nego celery .
Title: Re: Asking salary for new job
Post by: Chao seng on Jul 24, 2024, 08:05 PM
Quote from: luckyapple on Jul 24, 2024, 08:04 PMThank you Peace kor.

I first time nego celery .

Hokay..here is not EDMW so please dun ask for 20k/mth


CheerS!!!😉
Title: Re: Asking salary for new job
Post by: 老曾记 on Jul 24, 2024, 08:06 PM
Quote from: GhostZM on Jul 24, 2024, 08:05 PMHokay..here is not EDMW so please dun ask for 20k/mth


CheerS!!!😉

Pls lor... 40% of that also don't have rah...
Title: Re: Asking salary for new job
Post by: Risa on Jul 24, 2024, 08:32 PM
demand 25-30% more. else no space for employers to lowball u.
Title: Re: Asking salary for new job
Post by: Imboredtodeath on Jul 24, 2024, 11:55 PM
my guess is they will give u 10-15% more only

but take it bah
Title: Re: Asking salary for new job
Post by: 老曾记 on Jul 25, 2024, 09:36 AM
Quote from: Shiori on Jul 24, 2024, 08:32 PMdemand 25-30% more. else no space for employers to lowball u.

Usually will lowball to how many percent ah?
Title: Re: Asking salary for new job
Post by: Philipkee on Jul 25, 2024, 09:55 AM
Unfortunately in nursing there is the tendency to match last drawn

Title: Re: Asking salary for new job
Post by: 老曾记 on Jul 25, 2024, 09:57 AM
Quote from: Philipkee on Jul 25, 2024, 09:55 AMUnfortunately in nursing there is the tendency to match last drawn



Even in private setting ah?  :frown:
Heard need to bao sua bao hai. 5.5days work week. 14 days AL that sort of. If match then I will reject liao. Lol...
Title: Re: Asking salary for new job
Post by: Arctic on Jul 25, 2024, 10:07 AM
Quote from: luckyapple on Jul 25, 2024, 09:57 AMEven in private setting ah?  :frown:
Heard need to bao sua bao hai. 5.5days work week. 14 days AL that sort of. If match then I will reject liao. Lol...

Huh? 5.5days? Thot is 5 days but rotating shift? You admin or nurse?

Also, 14 days leave is like standard min thou iirc legally is 7days. So stingy?
Title: Re: Asking salary for new job
Post by: 老曾记 on Jul 25, 2024, 10:11 AM
Quote from: peaceheart on Jul 25, 2024, 10:07 AMHuh? 5.5days? Thot is 5 days but rotating shift? You admin or nurse?

Also, 14 days leave is like standard min thou iirc legally is 7days. So stingy?

Nurse... This time apply private cos this no need do night shift
Title: Re: Asking salary for new job
Post by: Arctic on Jul 25, 2024, 10:24 AM
Quote from: luckyapple on Jul 25, 2024, 10:11 AMNurse... This time apply private cos this no need do night shift

What? So good? Night time patients ownself take care ownself? Haha
Title: Re: Asking salary for new job
Post by: 老曾记 on Jul 25, 2024, 10:28 AM
Quote from: peaceheart on Jul 25, 2024, 10:24 AMWhat? So good? Night time patients ownself take care ownself? Haha

No wor. I think it's those day cases. Generally patients do finish liao can go home same day one.
Title: Re: Asking salary for new job
Post by: Arctic on Jul 25, 2024, 10:31 AM
Quote from: luckyapple on Jul 25, 2024, 10:28 AMNo wor. I think it's those day cases. Generally patients do finish liao can go home same day one.

Oh you are in that specific dept ah. Okok
Title: Re: Asking salary for new job
Post by: Philipkee on Jul 25, 2024, 01:13 PM
Quote from: luckyapple on Jul 25, 2024, 09:57 AMEven in private setting ah?  :frown:
Heard need to bao sua bao hai. 5.5days work week. 14 days AL that sort of. If match then I will reject liao. Lol...
Maybe post Covid it's different but it can't be too different also
Title: Re: Asking salary for new job
Post by: sTiCkY on Jul 25, 2024, 03:21 PM
clinical nurses life better... somewhat lol..
Title: Re: Asking salary for new job
Post by: Aisingioro on Jul 25, 2024, 04:42 PM
do grabfood in the meantime
Title: Re: Asking salary for new job
Post by: 老曾记 on Jul 25, 2024, 04:56 PM
Quote from: Aisingioro on Jul 25, 2024, 04:42 PMdo grabfood in the meantime
Just finished interview, if everything's ok. Might start work in sept after I go on a break.
Quote from: Philipkee on Jul 25, 2024, 01:13 PMMaybe post Covid it's different but it can't be too different also



Luckily they manage to let me have 25 days AL as per my past job. Out of 25 days, 4 days convertible to cash if I choose to work.
Title: Re: Asking salary for new job
Post by: 老曾记 on Jul 25, 2024, 05:01 PM
I still find it a little weird. They didn't ask for my past payslips/cpf. I ask them if I have to bring my edu certs and vaccinations. They say all no need.

Title: Re: Asking salary for new job
Post by: Imboredtodeath on Jul 25, 2024, 05:16 PM
Quote from: luckyapple on Jul 25, 2024, 09:57 AMEven in private setting ah?  :frown:
Heard need to bao sua bao hai. 5.5days work week. 14 days AL that sort of. If match then I will reject liao. Lol...

Increment then take bah
Title: Re: Asking salary for new job
Post by: Imboredtodeath on Jul 25, 2024, 05:17 PM
Quote from: luckyapple on Jul 25, 2024, 05:01 PMI still find it a little weird. They didn't ask for my past payslips/cpf. I ask them if I have to bring my edu certs and vaccinations. They say all no need.



Mine also no need in past pte jobs leh. But urs more specialized.

Maybe they hire u to myanmar help operate for organ donors
Title: Re: Asking salary for new job
Post by: Imboredtodeath on Jul 25, 2024, 05:18 PM
Quote from: luckyapple on Jul 25, 2024, 04:56 PMJust finished interview, if everything's ok. Might start work in sept after I go on a break.

Luckily they manage to let me have 25 days AL as per my past job. Out of 25 days, 4 days convertible to cash if I choose to work.

Hope u get the job
Title: Re: Asking salary for new job
Post by: 老曾记 on Jul 25, 2024, 05:21 PM
Quote from: default on Jul 25, 2024, 05:16 PMIncrement then take bah

the increment is not a lot, if based on annual package. If it goes through, it's only 2k more than my past annual package 😂. But anything la. If environment is good and don't send me to myanmar. I'm ok
Title: Re: Asking salary for new job
Post by: Arctic on Jul 25, 2024, 05:38 PM
Quote from: luckyapple on Jul 25, 2024, 05:01 PMI still find it a little weird. They didn't ask for my past payslips/cpf. I ask them if I have to bring my edu certs and vaccinations. They say all no need.



They din ask dun go itchy backside loh
Title: Re: Asking salary for new job
Post by: 老曾记 on Jul 25, 2024, 05:46 PM
Quote from: peaceheart on Jul 25, 2024, 05:38 PMThey din ask dun go itchy backside loh

No la wouldn't itchy backside. But usually employers will ask at least for certs and licenses to verify authenticity. This one never ask anything and just trust based on what I said in resume. Find it a bit weird.

Title: Re: Asking salary for new job
Post by: Arctic on Jul 25, 2024, 05:51 PM
Quote from: luckyapple on Jul 25, 2024, 05:46 PMNo la wouldn't itchy backside. But usually employers will ask at least for certs and licenses to verify authenticity. This one never ask anything and just trust based on what I said in resume. Find it a bit weird.



The certs part a bit unusual but payslip I think some dun ask for it liao
Title: Re: Asking salary for new job
Post by: Suntan on Jul 25, 2024, 05:56 PM
Usually coy has budgeted the celery based on previous pax & the current ppl in similar role.

Juz remember FT pmet with S Pass already min $3,600. Jhk wif their diploma & degree in lousy tertiary back home r eligible.
Title: Re: Asking salary for new job
Post by: addict951 on Jul 25, 2024, 09:03 PM
Congrats hor, sis!  :s12:
Hope no need commute too long between orfit & home.  :flash:
Title: Re: Asking salary for new job
Post by: encourageSome1 on Jul 25, 2024, 09:21 PM
Quote from: luckyapple on Jul 24, 2024, 06:38 PMHow many percentage increase is acceptable? If let's say it's the same role.

If not competitive means whole market u r less than 10-100 possible ppl short run then 15-30 is possible

If v competitive market I think 5-10% is possible but also depending on how unique u r versus nx best alternative they have with their candidate pool
Title: Re: Asking salary for new job
Post by: 老曾记 on Jul 25, 2024, 09:40 PM
Quote from: addict951 on Jul 25, 2024, 09:03 PMCongrats hor, sis!  :s12:
Hope no need commute too long between orfit & home.  :flash:

Quote from: EncourageSome1 on Jul 25, 2024, 09:21 PMIf not competitive means whole market u r less than 10-100 possible ppl short run then 15-30 is possible

If v competitive market I think 5-10% is possible but also depending on how unique u r versus nx best alternative they have with their candidate pool

If Glassdoor review 1* means what ha...?  :s13:  *sad*
Title: Re: Asking salary for new job
Post by: encourageSome1 on Jul 26, 2024, 12:15 AM
Quote from: luckyapple on Jul 25, 2024, 09:40 PMIf Glassdoor review 1* means what ha...?  :s13:  *sad*

Means co badly reviewed . Check number of reviews
If high count eg more than 5-10 then it s red flag
Title: Re: Asking salary for new job
Post by: Philipkee on Jul 26, 2024, 07:36 AM
Quote from: EncourageSome1 on Jul 26, 2024, 12:15 AMMeans co badly reviewed . Check number of reviews
If high count eg more than 5-10 then it s red flag

 I start to distrust these reviews cos from google reviews, it's easy to just get a few people to post negative things online for anything
Title: Re: Asking salary for new job
Post by: encourageSome1 on Jul 26, 2024, 08:07 AM
Quote from: Philipkee on Jul 26, 2024, 07:36 AMI start to distrust these reviews cos from google reviews, it's easy to just get a few people to post negative things online for anything
If maybe 1-30 quite easily they can buy a review
Even 100 also maybe they might buy
If 500
Unlikely they buy unless they really care abt correcting bad img and rather spend on pr on website than irl
Title: Re: Asking salary for new job
Post by: Philipkee on Jul 26, 2024, 10:09 AM
Quote from: EncourageSome1 on Jul 26, 2024, 08:07 AMIf maybe 1-30 quite easily they can buy a review
Even 100 also maybe they might buy
If 500
Unlikely they buy unless they really care abt correcting bad img and rather spend on pr on website than irl

Think the issue is people can buy good or bad reviews depending on motivations.  Money is actually no object cos if you can influence people to just post reviews, cost is little.

What about improving irl instead?  Depends on company I guess and of cos industry.  Like let's say nursing homes.  Budget and manpower and environment will always be an issue.  How to resolve?
Title: Re: Asking salary for new job
Post by: encourageSome1 on Jul 26, 2024, 11:42 AM
Quote from: Philipkee on Jul 26, 2024, 10:09 AMThink the issue is people can buy good or bad reviews depending on motivations.  Money is actually no object cos if you can influence people to just post reviews, cost is little.

What about improving irl instead?  Depends on company I guess and of cos industry.  Like let's say nursing homes.  Budget and manpower and environment will always be an issue.  How to resolve?

Indeed
I hv fren who quit nursing home work as a nurse to join e police cos she finds the shoestring budget n not optimised treatment nor care provided to the patients / elders staying there ..
Title: Re: Asking salary for new job
Post by: encourageSome1 on Jul 26, 2024, 11:44 AM
Quote from: Philipkee on Jul 26, 2024, 10:09 AMThink the issue is people can buy good or bad reviews depending on motivations.  Money is actually no object cos if you can influence people to just post reviews, cost is little.

What about improving irl instead?  Depends on company I guess and of cos industry.  Like let's say nursing homes.  Budget and manpower and environment will always be an issue.  How to resolve?

What yr intents n yr actions that it matters
Vs what u made other ppl thk u can : matter in short run (https://i.pinimg.com/originals/9d/d6/b3/9dd6b30ba37c092949e7252106149253.jpg)
Title: Re: Asking salary for new job
Post by: vezelover on Jul 26, 2024, 05:17 PM
Quote from: luckyapple on Jul 24, 2024, 06:38 PMHow many percentage increase is acceptable? If let's say it's the same role.

i see what's the new role about. if higher position i ask for higher celery.
Title: Re: Asking salary for new job
Post by: 老曾记 on Jul 26, 2024, 05:30 PM
Quote from: vezelover on Jul 26, 2024, 05:17 PMi see what's the new role about. if higher position i ask for higher celery.

Hey bro. Not higher position de. It's the same role.

I realised after I calculated the annual package, not much difference compare to my previous. Wo Mai hiam liao
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