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Title: FT earning higher salary than Sinkies in similar role provides points for COY
Post by: Suntan on Jul 11, 2024, 08:11 AM
What did I just read? MOM really lub FTs! Replaced PMET sinkies with higher Salary right? Earned points for COY. Welcome FTs....need to earn higher salary than Sinkies for EP, at least $5600.... financial sector $6,200.

Starting September 2024, Singapore will implement a points-based system to evaluate EP applications. This system assigns points based on several criteria:

Salary: Applicants earn points if their salary exceeds that of local employees in similar roles.
Education and Skills: Points are awarded based on the candidate's educational qualifications and professional skills.
Diversity Contribution: Points are given if the applicant's nationality contributes to the firm's diversity.


https://travelobiz.com/new-rules-for-foreign-workers-in-singapore-points-system-shakes-up-employment-pass/
Title: Re: FT earning higher salary than Sinkies in similar role provides points for COY
Post by: Philipkee on Jul 11, 2024, 09:15 AM
Quote from: Suntan on Jul 11, 2024, 08:11 AMWhat did I just read? MOM really lub FTs! Replaced PMET sinkies with higher Salary right? Earned points for COY. Welcome FTs....need to earn higher salary than Sinkies for EP, at least $5600.... financial sector $6,200.

Starting September 2024, Singapore will implement a points-based system to evaluate EP applications. This system assigns points based on several criteria:

Salary: Applicants earn points if their salary exceeds that of local employees in similar roles.
Education and Skills: Points are awarded based on the candidate's educational qualifications and professional skills.
Diversity Contribution: Points are given if the applicant's nationality contributes to the firm's diversity.


https://travelobiz.com/new-rules-for-foreign-workers-in-singapore-points-system-shakes-up-employment-pass/

Doesn't make sense.  A company exists to make money.  So why should it pay a new worker (FT) more money than a local just to earn points?
Title: Re: FT earning higher salary than Sinkies in similar role provides points for COY
Post by: Risa on Jul 11, 2024, 09:18 AM
foreigners huat big big now

can pay their own people fat salaries
Title: Re: FT earning higher salary than Sinkies in similar role provides points for COY
Post by: default on Jul 11, 2024, 11:42 AM
The fucking system is broken. Esp towards msians.

U see how many jiuhu vehicles in sg now. Im sure u all noticed the trend. Now my guess is for every 7 to 8 sg cars there is a jiuhu car

Rly the govt must come down on msians. We must make this an election topic.

They game our hdb and jobs and everything but they want to game us for their vep, sez, rts and makan us everything.

This cannot go on. This govt is being played by msians and their govt. If they dont do something to stop it we must kick pap out. Its too much

Need to impose higher taxes and conditions tor FTs and msians. PAP has been played too far for too long and sinkies bear the brunt of costs of living due to these related factors
Title: Re: FT earning higher salary than Sinkies in similar role provides points for COY
Post by: Risa on Jul 11, 2024, 11:45 AM
Quote from: default on Jul 11, 2024, 11:42 AMThe fucking system is broken. Esp towards msians.

U see how many jiuhu vehicles in sg now. Im sure u all noticed the trend. Now my guess is for every 7 to 8 sg cars there is a jiuhu car

Rly the govt must come down on msians. We must make this an election topic.

They game our hdb and jobs and everything but they want to game us for their vep, sez, rts and makan us everything.

This cannot go on. This govt is being played by msians and their govt. If they dont do something to stop it we must kick pap out. Its too much

Need to impose higher taxes and conditions tor FTs and msians. PAP has been played too far for too long and sinkies bear the brunt of costs of living due to these related factors


singaporeans r screwed
Title: Re: FT earning higher salary than Sinkies in similar role provides points for COY
Post by: default on Jul 11, 2024, 11:53 AM
I nv fully go read but i dont think the so called points is like winning accolades? More to meet criteria or sth. But i have to go read further
Title: Re: FT earning higher salary than Sinkies in similar role provides points for COY
Post by: default on Jul 11, 2024, 11:54 AM
Quote from: Shiori on Jul 11, 2024, 11:45 AMsingaporeans r screwed

U knw if u or anyone types this on edmw u will get marked
Title: Re: FT earning higher salary than Sinkies in similar role provides points for COY
Post by: default on Jul 11, 2024, 11:55 AM
"Diversity Contribution: Points are given if the applicant's nationality contributes to the firm's diversity"

Wtf is this shit?
Title: Re: FT earning higher salary than Sinkies in similar role provides points for COY
Post by: BuiBuiForeverAlone on Jul 11, 2024, 12:13 PM
Sinkie pwn sinkie at its finest. Worst still treating malaysians like our citizens whilst treating fellow sinkie born citizens badly. Already kena multiple times riao. How the sg born team lead or manager side with malaysian colleagues over fellow sg colleagues.
Title: Re: FT earning higher salary than Sinkies in similar role provides points for COY
Post by: Suntan on Jul 11, 2024, 03:06 PM
Being in a regional management role last time, moi went for interviews in the late 2000.Experience & education totally right fit. Didn't get the job. MNC Coy Wayang shows interviewed & rejected local. PMETs jobs r not even a rocket scientist talent job tat can't find sinkies, sinkie can do PMETs job & even cheaper(underpaid sinkies) than Ang mo. Imagine a regional management sinkie paid less than $10/mth but the coy vacancy is paying more than $10/mth. Why can't a local get the similar job? It's just office or management job. Worse now not taken by Ang mo but filled with jhks, cecas.....where they are clueless & education & experience r worse than sinkies, oso inexperienced handling asean countries. Sinkies can actually handle PMETs jobs.
Title: Re: FT earning higher salary than Sinkies in similar role provides points for COY
Post by: Suntan on Jul 11, 2024, 03:17 PM
Quote from: Philipkee on Jul 11, 2024, 09:15 AMDoesn't make sense.  A company exists to make money.  So why should it pay a new worker (FT) more money than a local just to earn points?

Many MNCs companies actually hv hiring budget when hiring people for the job. We had been sold by press to compete cheaply with less developed countries (jhks, cecas, ATs..) where most of them come from  uni worse than NUS/NTU or even worse than SMU. They hv also lesser experience since we were industrialized first. Since when u hear our PM or minister selling us as talents?
Title: Re: FT earning higher salary than Sinkies in similar role provides points for COY
Post by: Risa on Jul 11, 2024, 08:27 PM
Quote from: default on Jul 11, 2024, 11:54 AMU knw if u or anyone types this on edmw u will get marked


i am still typing this at edmw
Title: Re: FT earning higher salary than Sinkies in similar role provides points for COY
Post by: Risa on Jul 11, 2024, 08:27 PM
Quote from: Banned on Jul 11, 2024, 12:13 PMSinkie pwn sinkie at its finest. Worst still treating malaysians like our citizens whilst treating fellow sinkie born citizens badly. Already kena multiple times riao. How the sg born team lead or manager side with malaysian colleagues over fellow sg colleagues.


singaporeans pwn singaporeans

nothing new
Title: Re: FT earning higher salary than Sinkies in similar role provides points for COY
Post by: Risa on Jul 11, 2024, 08:28 PM
Quote from: Suntan on Jul 11, 2024, 03:17 PMMany MNCs companies actually hv hiring budget when hiring people for the job. We had been sold by press to compete cheaply with less developed countries (jhks, cecas, ATs..) where most of them come from  uni worse than NUS/NTU or even worse than SMU. They hv also lesser experience since we were industrialized first. Since when u hear our PM or minister selling us as talents?


the funny thing is these foreigners are well paid in sg
meanwhile singaporeans are underpaid
disliked by HR people also
resume abit abit also cannot, reject, throw into rubbish bin etc

while foreigners use their crap shyt also can get the jobs
Title: Re: FT earning higher salary than Sinkies in similar role provides points for COY
Post by: default on Jul 11, 2024, 08:30 PM
Quote from: Shiori on Jul 11, 2024, 08:27 PMi am still typing this at edmw

no... i mean what i typed not what u type about sinkies are screwed
Title: Re: FT earning higher salary than Sinkies in similar role provides points for COY
Post by: Risa on Jul 11, 2024, 08:34 PM
Quote from: default on Jul 11, 2024, 08:30 PMno... i mean what i typed not what u type about sinkies are screwed


understood !

hwz is infiltrated with foreigners
Title: Re: FT earning higher salary than Sinkies in similar role provides points for COY
Post by: BuiBuiForeverAlone on Jul 11, 2024, 08:42 PM
Quote from: Shiori on Jul 11, 2024, 08:28 PMthe funny thing is these foreigners are well paid in sg
meanwhile singaporeans are underpaid
disliked by HR people also
resume abit abit also cannot, reject, throw into rubbish bin etc

while foreigners use their crap shyt also can get the jobs

Underpaid is because hr lowball plus no negotiation. Take it or leave it  :frown:
Title: Re: FT earning higher salary than Sinkies in similar role provides points for COY
Post by: stillgottheblues on Jul 11, 2024, 09:45 PM
Numerous new citizens MPs in government, and the government need to make money from aliens.
Title: Re: FT earning higher salary than Sinkies in similar role provides points for COY
Post by: daryl76 on Jul 11, 2024, 09:48 PM
Quote from: Philipkee on Jul 11, 2024, 09:15 AMDoesn't make sense.  A company exists to make money.  So why should it pay a new worker (FT) more money than a local just to earn points?

alot is just on paper
a worker can be paid $5200 but in actual its lower

dun ask me how i know
Title: Re: FT earning higher salary than Sinkies in similar role provides points for COY
Post by: Suntan on Jul 12, 2024, 12:30 PM
Quote from: Shiori on Jul 11, 2024, 08:28 PMthe funny thing is these foreigners are well paid in sg
meanwhile singaporeans are underpaid
disliked by HR people also
resume abit abit also cannot, reject, throw into rubbish bin etc

while foreigners use their crap shyt also can get the jobs

They job hop with jhk hiring bosses. In actual situation mostly overpaid for their qualifications & lack of experience.
Title: Re: FT earning higher salary than Sinkies in similar role provides points for COY
Post by: Risa on Jul 12, 2024, 01:04 PM
Quote from: Banned on Jul 11, 2024, 08:42 PMUnderpaid is because hr lowball plus no negotiation. Take it or leave it  :frown:


i agree with u
Title: Re: FT earning higher salary than Sinkies in similar role provides points for COY
Post by: Risa on Jul 12, 2024, 01:04 PM
Quote from: Suntan on Jul 12, 2024, 12:30 PMThey job hop with jhk hiring bosses. In actual situation mostly overpaid for their qualifications & lack of experience.


hard truths...
Title: Re: FT earning higher salary than Sinkies in similar role provides points for COY
Post by: Magical Fingertip on Jul 12, 2024, 01:12 PM
Quote from: Shiori on Jul 11, 2024, 08:34 PMunderstood !

hwz is infiltrated with foreigners

Jhk
Coyote

Ceca
Nanduleg

Indo
Nubitol but he ok guy never stir anything

We have tw hk also but not going to name them

Title: Re: FT earning higher salary than Sinkies in similar role provides points for COY
Post by: Suntan on Aug 22, 2024, 02:33 PM
Quote from: default on Jul 11, 2024, 11:55 AM"Diversity Contribution: Points are given if the applicant's nationality contributes to the firm's diversity"

Wtf is this shit?

Wrong use of diversity in Sg. Diversity in USA means African American, Chinese American, indian American. Sg already diversified with Sinkie Chinese, Sinkie Malay.... smokescreen us to enable more FT to come in.
Title: Re: FT earning higher salary than Sinkies in similar role provides points for COY
Post by: encourageSome1 on Aug 22, 2024, 03:11 PM
Quote from: default on Jul 11, 2024, 11:55 AM"Diversity Contribution: Points are given if the applicant's nationality contributes to the firm's diversity"

Wtf is this shit?

Means if I m coming fr msia or tiong or Myanmar which Ur co alr hv : I no contribute to diversity

If I come fr maybe Egypt
Iceland
Ukraine
Yemen
Or Antarctica u don't hv staff fr here .. I am contributing to diversity yay..U shd hv more point to hire me
Title: Re: FT earning higher salary than Sinkies in similar role provides points for COY
Post by: encourageSome1 on Aug 22, 2024, 03:13 PM
Quote from: daryl76 on Jul 11, 2024, 09:48 PMalot is just on paper
a worker can be paid $5200 but in actual its lower

dun ask me how i know


I thk in construction they call it alibabaing
Title: Re: FT earning higher salary than Sinkies in similar role provides points for COY
Post by: daryl76 on Aug 22, 2024, 03:33 PM
Quote from: EncourageSome1 on Aug 22, 2024, 03:13 PMI thk in construction they call it alibabaing

mom still sleeping and monitoring in the comfort of their office

some particular industry are even exempted
Title: Re: FT earning higher salary than Sinkies in similar role provides points for COY
Post by: encourageSome1 on Aug 22, 2024, 03:35 PM
Quote from: daryl76 on Aug 22, 2024, 03:33 PMmom still sleeping and monitoring in the comfort of their office

some particular industry are even exempted
G knows
Even in money no enuf movie jackN also obviously show it but g just monitoring lizard as usual
Title: Re: FT earning higher salary than Sinkies in similar role provides points for COY
Post by: daryl76 on Aug 22, 2024, 03:41 PM
Quote from: EncourageSome1 on Aug 22, 2024, 03:35 PMG knows
Even in money no enuf movie jackN also obviously show it but g just monitoring lizard as usual


those who know will know
those who dun are probably in denial or they are just morons

Title: Re: FT earning higher salary than Sinkies in similar role provides points for COY
Post by: Joe Maya on Aug 22, 2024, 08:05 PM
lol free payraise for my jhk corlick.
In 2020 he complain his celery not even 4k, now almost 4 years later his salary is ballooned to $5600.
Btw jhk follow different set of rules ?

Cannot imagine that amount they pay him. Very easy job.
Title: Re: FT earning higher salary than Sinkies in similar role provides points for COY
Post by: Suntan on Aug 23, 2024, 11:25 AM
Quote from: daryl76 on Aug 22, 2024, 03:33 PMmom still sleeping and monitoring in the comfort of their office

some particular industry are even exempted

No. MOM circumvent by allowing construction industry to use normal work permit not S Pass anymore, any celery ok.
Other industries can go in changi chalet. one rule for industry, another rule for others.
Title: Re: FT earning higher salary than Sinkies in similar role provides points for COY
Post by: default on Aug 23, 2024, 12:03 PM
Quote from: Suntan on Aug 23, 2024, 11:25 AMNo. MOM circumvent by allowing construction industry to use normal work permit not S Pass anymore, any celery ok.
Other industries can go in changi chalet. one rule for industry, another rule for others.

for construction i think it's ok. unless is those higher level mgt roles. coz HDB already not enough liao

want to kp go kp those higher paying industries like CBP or finance etc....... DBS inside at least half if not more are indians (based on what i see like 7 yrs ago la, v long ago)

then msians are all in auditing, accting etc and many in IT also
Title: Re: FT earning higher salary than Sinkies in similar role provides points for COY
Post by: default on Aug 23, 2024, 12:06 PM
Quote from: Joe Maya on Aug 22, 2024, 08:05 PMlol free payraise for my jhk corlick.
In 2020 he complain his celery not even 4k, now almost 4 years later his salary is ballooned to $5600.
Btw jhk follow different set of rules ?

Cannot imagine that amount they pay him. Very easy job.

actually tbh right, the parkinson uncle neighbour im helping

his tenant is jhk

24 or 25 only. 5k or more liao. works for IT company. pay rent only $700 or $800, cant rem. whole room to him but shared bathroom and no aircon la



i feel right, all of us must find ways to make money. cant rely on govt or our employers or whatever
Title: Re: FT earning higher salary than Sinkies in similar role provides points for COY
Post by: BuiBuiForeverAlone on Aug 23, 2024, 12:40 PM
Quote from: default on Aug 23, 2024, 12:06 PMactually tbh right, the parkinson uncle neighbour im helping

his tenant is jhk

24 or 25 only. 5k or more liao. works for IT company. pay rent only $700 or $800, cant rem. whole room to him but shared bathroom and no aircon la



i feel right, all of us must find ways to make money. cant rely on govt or our employers or whatever

Jlb govt forcing citizens to be greedy (gambling, investing in stocks/crypto) to manage increased cost of living. Not surprise as to why some gullible ppl lost their monies through scams because they wanted to earn a quick buck.
Title: Re: FT earning higher salary than Sinkies in similar role provides points for COY
Post by: daryl76 on Aug 23, 2024, 05:11 PM
Quote from: Suntan on Aug 23, 2024, 11:25 AMNo. MOM circumvent by allowing construction industry to use normal work permit not S Pass anymore, any celery ok.
Other industries can go in changi chalet. one rule for industry, another rule for others.


really is addicted to cheap labor from third world countries
Title: Re: FT earning higher salary than Sinkies in similar role provides points for COY
Post by: Suntan on Aug 23, 2024, 05:17 PM
Quote from: daryl76 on Aug 23, 2024, 05:11 PMreally is addicted to cheap labor from third world countries

and double standard mete out from MOM  :frown:
Title: Re: FT earning higher salary than Sinkies in similar role provides points for COY
Post by: Magical Fingertip on Aug 23, 2024, 05:19 PM
Quote from: Shiori on Jul 11, 2024, 08:28 PMthe funny thing is these foreigners are well paid in sg
meanwhile singaporeans are underpaid
disliked by HR people also
resume abit abit also cannot, reject, throw into rubbish bin etc

while foreigners use their crap shyt also can get the jobs

Sinkie pawn sinkie... Scrutinize your resume from psle until your phd then ask why your kindergarten not pap kindergarten  then find an excuse to reject u sorry u overqualified
Title: Re: FT earning higher salary than Sinkies in similar role provides points for COY
Post by: daryl76 on Aug 23, 2024, 05:20 PM
Quote from: Suntan on Aug 23, 2024, 05:17 PMand double standard mete out from MOM  :frown:

lol i know someone in HR, she also told me MOM is shit

Title: Re: FT earning higher salary than Sinkies in similar role provides points for COY
Post by: Suntan on Aug 24, 2024, 08:34 AM
Quote from: daryl76 on Aug 23, 2024, 05:11 PMreally is addicted to cheap labor from third world countries

Share same observations wif chiu. See the rise of breaching flawed laws by MOM and people
now resort to eke a living.
Notice how employers got to circumvent the S Pass high salary and do pay back since it is ridiculous to employ
lousy FWs to do blue collar jobs.

 https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/man-obtain-work-permit-21-foreign-women-performers-pub-karaoke-moonlight-jail-4561151
Title: Re: FT earning higher salary than Sinkies in similar role provides points for COY
Post by: daryl76 on Aug 24, 2024, 08:51 AM
Quote from: Suntan on Aug 24, 2024, 08:34 AMShare same observations wif chiu. See the rise of breaching flawed laws by MOM and people
now resort to eke a living.
Notice how employers got to circumvent the S Pass high salary and do pay back since it is ridiculous to employ
lousy FWs to do blue collar jobs.

 https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/man-obtain-work-permit-21-foreign-women-performers-pub-karaoke-moonlight-jail-4561151

which is why i dun understand why some many kumgong sinkies dun see this

take for instance how some companies simply get rid of a local driver and assign a bangala to be a "driver" to ferry the workers while he ownself is still a worker in actual
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