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Title: A very good read about LHL's PM legacy
Post by: default on May 18, 2024, 03:02 AM
https://www.jom.media/lee-hsien-loongs-mixed-legacy/
Title: Re: A very good read about LHL's PM legacy
Post by: jim889 on May 18, 2024, 07:45 AM
any samurai? good or bad?
 :frown:
Title: Re: A very good read about LHL's PM legacy
Post by: default on May 18, 2024, 08:20 AM
Quote from: jim889 on May 18, 2024, 07:45 AMany samurai? good or bad?
 :frown:

say mixed mixed lor

tbh not fully his fault coz is global trend for tfr etc......... but rich wealth divide and hdb prices are fucking crazy

this one is his fault........

u grow gdp high high but import ceca (stated in article) and tiongs and pinoys (now last 2 groups less trouble than ceca), then force sinkies to accept

some of them took our jobs, some are those rich ones who just part their monies here or wash money

i dont know how it benefits those living in 3 room and below (esp rented flats)

then now 3 room at boon keng is close to 1m, while 4 room is 1m+, now many places nearby and tiong bahru reaching 1.5m

how is this not the fault of the PAP?
Title: Re: A very good read about LHL's PM legacy
Post by: default on May 18, 2024, 08:21 AM
The major political failures of Lee's government encompass the twin challenges of immigration and inequality. When Lee became prime minister in 2004, Singapore's total fertility rate had already dropped to 1.26, well below the replacement rate of 2.1. There are cultural and economic reasons why fertility has declined across East Asia. Still, the PAP itself was culpable from the 1960s. The party first disincentivised Singaporeans from having more children, then chided us for having listened, and finally said it'll simply bring in other humans to make up for the ones we should have had.


this is one of the paragraphs that summed up nicely
Title: Re: A very good read about LHL's PM legacy
Post by: default on May 18, 2024, 08:24 AM
i feel they should provide better incentives to have children. now children also hard to get jobs

but we all know only 1 race will keep popping out. and those ah bengs etc

then to maintain ratio w/o 1 race dominating, they have to import tiongs, pinoys, cecas

it's a thinking issue that they dont want to acknowledge. if suddenly give more to chinese and indians and other(s), without giving same to malay

will cause racial issues again

should provide incentives in form of housing and education, apart from just monetary so that people want to have children

and your damned bto need 5 yrs to build and not confirm tio, meaning to say if a couple gets married at 35 or 40 (for women)

then they where got chance or time to have kids?

meaning can only get married at 30 and below
Title: Re: A very good read about LHL's PM legacy
Post by: default on May 18, 2024, 08:27 AM
also the money they made, and by wealth transferring to asia

they increased taxes making the middle class and lower classes even poorer

how does this benefit locals?
Title: Re: A very good read about LHL's PM legacy
Post by: drdoof on May 18, 2024, 09:01 AM
Immigration policy benefit the capitalists whilst making the working class tank the social costs.

Importing foreigners to make up for low birth rates means more social issues.
More crimes
(More fake beggars
More scammers
More rapists
More molesters
More child sexual abusers)
More elderly
More fights
More crowded spaces
More racism
etc..

In exchange for cdc vouchers, gst vouchers, climate vouchers, subsidies, grants, cpf life, skillsfuture credits, hdb asset enhancement...
Title: Re: A very good read about LHL's PM legacy
Post by: FireOpal on May 18, 2024, 12:09 PM
Many Singaporeans do not have critical thinking, they cannot think from multiple angles regarding PM and ministers words, public policies, the effects on the nation, society, future of our kids.

They read and trust straits times and Channel 5, where "you only hear the good things".

A government which is 100% capitalist, importing cheap and low class workers to benefits companies. Using few hundred foreign millionaires allow them to buy tons of properties so they (even ministers) get richer thru property investment, to fake and increase average wages.
Title: Re: A very good read about LHL's PM legacy
Post by: jim889 on May 18, 2024, 12:14 PM
Quote from: default on May 18, 2024, 08:20 AMsay mixed mixed lor

tbh not fully his fault coz is global trend for tfr etc......... but rich wealth divide and hdb prices are fucking crazy

this one is his fault........

u grow gdp high high but import ceca (stated in article) and tiongs and pinoys (now last 2 groups less trouble than ceca), then force sinkies to accept

some of them took our jobs, some are those rich ones who just part their monies here or wash money

i dont know how it benefits those living in 3 room and below (esp rented flats)

then now 3 room at boon keng is close to 1m, while 4 room is 1m+, now many places nearby and tiong bahru reaching 1.5m

how is this not the fault of the PAP?

moi already see  before nearly 20 years ago ceca cum here working then after that leesign or leetire and take cpf ghost back live rike a king

just that rast time less ceca.. now gotch moar..


another issue is rast taim they cum here working then will eventually ghost back.. but now they cum here and take ic and then multiply here many small cecas ..  however they pretend to be sg but in their heart steel ceca ..

this kind moar trouble.. coz they wanna stayed here but dun wanna blend in
:frown:
Title: Re: A very good read about LHL's PM legacy
Post by: drdoof on May 18, 2024, 03:06 PM
Quote from: jim889 on May 18, 2024, 12:14 PMmoi already see  before nearly 20 years ago ceca cum here working then after that leesign or leetire and take cpf ghost back live rike a king

just that rast time less ceca.. now gotch moar..


another issue is rast taim they cum here working then will eventually ghost back.. but now they cum here and take ic and then multiply here many small cecas ..  however they pretend to be sg but in their heart steel ceca ..

this kind moar trouble.. coz they wanna stayed here but dun wanna blend in
:frown:

Rast time ibm at cbp back in the mid to late 2000s already ceca . Not as blatantly obvious as today but it is already happening then. :frown:
Title: Re: A very good read about LHL's PM legacy
Post by: jim889 on May 18, 2024, 05:23 PM
Quote from: drdoof on May 18, 2024, 03:06 PMRast time ibm at cbp back in the mid to late 2000s already ceca . Not as blatantly obvious as today but it is already happening then. :frown:


ya then suddenly sexplode
 :frown:
Title: Re: A very good read about LHL's PM legacy
Post by: daryl76 on May 18, 2024, 08:52 PM
back in early 2000s, the data centre i was working at oredi got ceca supervisor

sinkies under him, need to get his approval when take off
Title: Re: A very good read about LHL's PM legacy
Post by: Magical Fingertip on May 18, 2024, 09:48 PM
Low tfr is bec can only choose 1 btwn kid or car without compromising lifestyle
Persue gdp growth at all cost by import until overpopulation until car sibei expensive ppl generally choose lifestyle over kid. how's it not their fault
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